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Brother Adam
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Declared a hero for saving numerous lives at Ground Zero, he was the janitor on duty the morning of 9/11 who heard and felt explosions rock the basement sub-levels of the north tower just seconds before the jetliner struck the top floors.
He not only claims he felt explosions coming from below the first sub-level while working in the basement, he says the walls were cracking around him and he pulled a man to safety by the name of Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions.
All these events occurred only seconds before and during the jetliner strike above. And through it all, he now asks a simple question everybody should be asking? How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man’s arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact? |
Why did white smoke appear at the base of WTC 1 roughly 10 seconds before its collapse?
Please note, this happened before the plane hit. Again, air or gas can not pass into a sealed corridor. In order for it to travel to the basement the elevator door would have to be open with no elevator in the way. There would HAVE to be a way for the pressure to release...PERIOD. Regardless how much airspace is in the shaft, if it can't escape, it will NEVER enter. THIS MY FRIEND IS PHYSICS. Do what I said, put your finger on the end of a straw and blow into it. See how successful you are.
What about these explosions?
And how this tower fell STRAIGHT DOWN?!?!?!?! You say you understand physics, explain how an un-damaged building explodes and falls STRAIGHT DOWN? Buildings just don't do it on thier own.......
Don't forget about the number of closed floors that were STRIPPED and under construction at the time of the explosions. There were engineers, carpenters, and workers coming in and out, left and right during this time....would have been easy to bring in explosives.
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"I never could make it to the top, but I got up to the 33rd floor after getting some of my equipment and a face mask out of the janitor’s closet," said Rodriguez, adding he heard a series of small explosions going off between the 20th and 30th floors, unrelated to the airplane strike, while making his way through the stairwell to the top floors.
"Also, when I was on the 33rd floor, I heard strange sounds coming form the 34th floor, loud noises like someone moving and thumping heavy equipment and furniture. I knew this floor was empty and stripped due to construction work so I avoided it and continued to make my way up the stairs."
Rodriguez said he finally reached the 39th floor before being turned back by fire fighters and then, reluctantly, started his descent back down and his own flight to safety while, at the same time, hearing explosions coming from the South Tower. |
Let's read the WHOLE story....and this time.....COMPREHEND!
Here's a building falling without controlled demolition... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/noexplosivesplaceddemolition.mpg |
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Torkel
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Mystic Power wrote:
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You show me someone out there actively, continually and enthusiastically "debunking" alternative theories and investigations, and I'll show you someone who's either:
A. On the government dole as a disinformation/psy-ops operative, or...
B. On the government dole as a mentally disabled person. |
Could this be RCG's true purpose of being here??
Rev.Adam wrote:
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| Let's read the WHOLE story....and this time.....COMPREHEND! |
Maybe RCG comprehends already...refer to the comments at the top of this post. 
Peace,
Torkel
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Fyrefly1
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| But...I can't see how avgas can melt all those steel girders in such a fashion as to cause the towers to fall in what appears to be such a controlled fashion. |
There's the problem...Avgas can't do it. Besides, those steel girders (even in 1970) were sprayed (and inspected) with an asbestos based coating that is fire rated for 1 hour. This means that it's designed to withstand up to 1000 degrees of direct heat before it would fail. The odds that all of the girders would fail together to cause the building to come straight down is so astronomical that it's ridiculous, imho...
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Mystic Power
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| But...I can't see how avgas can melt all those steel girders in such a fashion as to cause the towers to fall in what appears to be such a controlled fashion. |
There's the problem...Avgas can't do it. Besides, those steel girders (even in 1970) were sprayed (and inspected) with an asbestos based coating that is fire rated for 1 hour. This means that it's designed to withstand up to 1000 degrees of direct heat before it would fail. The odds that all of the girders would fail together to cause the building to come straight down is so astronomical that it's ridiculous, imho... |
Yep. That's the main "tell" with the official version.
Two buildings...both hit separately...burning avgas...and BOTH buildings go straight down....just like the ones that professional demolition folks work so hard (and still cross their fingers) to achieve.
It IS ridiculous.
And....as Bro Ferre has pointed out...there's the problem of "BUILDING 7":
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Building 7 was the third skyscraper to collapse into rubble on September 11, 2001. According to the government, small fires leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.
The team who investigated the collapse were not allowed access to the crime scene. By the time they published their inconclusive report, the evidence had been destroyed.
Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent? |
Now...according to The owner of Building 7, Larry Silverstein, the NYFD decided to "pull it"...presumably meaning via controlled demolition...on the afternoon of 9-11.
How'd THEY get it wired for demolition so quickly?
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Torkel
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| How'd THEY get it wired for demolition so quickly? |
They didn't...
a demolition of this magnitude would take many months according to experts.
This kind of "no-brainer" stuff that is being covered up & not given media coverage makes me feel like "Mr Douglas" all over again
Peace,
Torkel
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Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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Mystic Power
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Yes.
Too many inconsistancies...too many unanswered questions....
...and too few real inquiries.
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Brother Adam
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YEAH!! They were ready to "pull it"....it being a 40 story building, within only a few hours..it was leveled by 5:20pm......
Also, how did Mayor Juliani know that the towers were going to fall when NO steel framed building in America's history has fallen from fires.
Why were fire-fighters reporting bombs and explosions from inside the buildings?
These are simple questions that should be asked who's origin is not questionable. They come from the "horse's mouth".... |
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Torkel
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| Why were fire-fighters reporting bombs and explosions from inside the buildings? |
probably because the "inside men" weren't quick enough to put the "gag" on them...
the 911 incident will be a very good learning experience for the feds.
The US-Feds => the best terrorists in the world, bar none.
Something to be proud of 
Peace,
Torkel
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Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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