Woman faces death penalty in Bali for cannabis.

Rev. Chazman · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:39 am Post subject:

This kind of crazy shit has to stop. The world is insane Crying or Very sad

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Das · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: Death

Death penalty, it just goes to show what justice these countries have, NONE! Not to mention the level of intelligence. Glad I'm not there, and real sorry for her. Sad

**Torkel** · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject:

This is an unacceptable injustice, IMO.

I just called this # (1-202) 775-5200 and a security guard answered & said the office is closed today for a new years day party and will be back open on monday in case anyone was planning on calling today.

Let's put ourselves in her position and try to help her, please. Wink

Peace & safety, Torkel
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Lilli · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:12 am Post subject:

Ok I will too bro.
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**Urbanhog** · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:56 am Post subject:

Gee.... she is surely a pretty lady..... Embarassed

Yeah Bali is notorious for insane laws.... and its not far where I live....

There's been few media coverage over this story....

I haven't been really following the news lately....
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RogerChristie

Hello everyone,

Aloha. Answer to the above question; a 'religious defense to prosecution'.
Is it enough? Is it even true in her case? Does it matter?

If cannabis is a sacrament to us, maybe we (I) can become involved in this matter and shed enough light on it that she will be freed. We (I) must try.

There are two nations involved, Australia where's she's from, and Bali where she was caught. If we can generate some publicity in BOTH places maybe she can get a break and her lawyers will find out about our defense to prosecution.

Australia - www.news.com.au
Bali - www.?

All the best to you,

Roger

Corby's lawyers turn on Australia
Marian Carroll
January 18, 2005

LAWYERS for a Gold Coast beauty student facing death in Bali on drugs charges have accused the Australian Government of forsaking their client.

"We have lost all faith in the AFP (Australian Federal Police) and the Australian foreign ministry," Vasudeva Rasiah, a member of Schapelle Corby's legal team, said yesterday.

"They promised us they would help, but it was lip service all the way.

"They have done nothing – and now what do we have in her defence? Absolutely nothing."

Corby, 27, of Tugun, faces the death penalty under Indonesia's tough anti-drugs laws after customs officers found a plastic zip-lock bag containing 4.2kg of cannabis leaf and heads in her bodyboard bag when she arrived in Bali last October.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade yesterday said her trial was likely to begin later this month or early next month after Indonesian police recommended to prosecutors that the Australian be charged with trafficking.

Corby has maintained her innocence, saying someone must have planted the drug in her luggage between Brisbane and Denpasar airports.

After meeting her legal team in Australia in November, Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer called the case very curious and offered Australian Federal Police help to test the origin of the cannabis – something that required Corby's consent.

She gave this last month and the AFP said yesterday it had offered to help determine where the cannabis was grown – a potentially key issue in determining Corby's guilt or innocence.

However Indonesian police had declined the offer of help, an AFP spokesman said.

Bali police said yesterday the AFP had not asked to test the drugs.

"The AFP never asked to test the drugs," Bali police anti-drugs squad director Bambang Sugiarto said.

"We never asked them to test the drugs. We have our own forensic lab and our tests are enough to prove that what Corby brought in to Bali is marijuana.

"What else would we need to check the marijuana for?"

Australian consular officials in Bali were monitoring the case and were continuing to visit Corby to provide her with assistance, a DFAT spokesman said.

RogerChristie · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: Small, but important, correction

Hello everyone,

Aloha. In the above message I made a small mis-statement that I want to correct immediately. I said, "If cannabis is a sacrament to us...". I meant to say that, "Since cannabis is a sacrament to us...".

There is zero doubt and all certainty that cannabis IS our sacrament. Period. Mahalo.

All the very best to you,

Roger

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Rev. Chazman · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject:

Well said Roger. We all need to get on this. Wouldnt it be wonderful if we could help her, even if only ion a small way.

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pipeman · regular contributor Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 49

Unfortunately I don't think that is a valid defense in this case as she is not being charged with posession or use, she is being charged with trafficking.

besides, she has already gone on record denying the cannabis is hers, her blood tests were totally clear therefore she hasn't been smoking at all so I can't see how she could make a credible religious defense now.

If she admits to it being hers for religious reasons now she is putting the noose round her own neck IMO. At least this way her lawyers have a slim chance of creating enough doubt to get her aquitted.

Also Roger, I think offering the religious defense to anyone who has been busted detracts from the credibility of the ministry. As people will see it as a mechanism to bypass the law rather than a legitimate religion.
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**Torkel** · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:28 am Post subject:

pipeman wrote:

zero · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:30 am Post subject:

somebody should "extract" her from the country.
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:30 am Post subject:

pipeman · regular contributor Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 49

I think there is a big difference between defending a member of a religion who is being prosecuted, and converting someone who has already been caught as a mechanism of defense.

How do you expect a person who has already denied the pot is hers and had totally clean blood tests to prove she wasn't smoking, to make a credible defense based on religion? Her religious defense will be shot down easily and she will have admitted to the pot being hers which proves the prosecution's case. Its just suicide IMO. And besides, the main point is she is being charged with trafficking. Its an illegal money making activity and got nothing to do with personal beliefs or religion. We are talking about 8 pound of dope here remember. If it was a simple case of posession/use then we might have something to work with, but its not.

I guess the basic question is, will this Ministry be credible as a religion if anyone who had no previous involvement is suddenly converted after being caught as a means of defense? It will turn the whole idea into a joke IMO.
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:19 am Post subject:

It would indeed be a miracle if she got off with a religious defense....our subject doesn't really apply to her. Trafficking is a different matter altogether!

I thought we were talking in general terms about a hypothetical person caught for possession.... Rolling Eyes

I still stand by my previous assertion: that anyone who presents a religious defense for simple possession has a good chance in a jury trial. Smile

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