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Ferre
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 Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: Witness investigated after medical marijuana testimony |
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Witness investigated after medical marijuana testimony
Published: Saturday, February 19, 2005
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
SPRINGFIELD — Irvin Rosenfeld on Thursday expected to do his moral duty by testifying before Illinois lawmakers on the benefits of smoking marijuana for a painful genetic bone disorder.
He didn't expect to be detained by Illinois secretary of state police for bringing in his tin of about 150 federally approved  s.
Call it an example of "show and tell" gone bad.
The 51-year-old stockbroker from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., appeared in front of the House Human Services Committee in support of House Bill 407. Sponsored by Rep. Larry McKeon, D-Chicago, the proposal would legalize marijuana use for residents with debilitating medical conditions such as cancer, multiple sclerosis or AIDS.
Federal law prohibits possession of the cannabis plant, but the U.S. Supreme Court will rule this year on whether federal officials can prosecute individuals who use medical marijuana. Ten states currently allow marijuana to be used for medicinal purposes.
Rosenfeld is one of seven patients nationwide allowed to legally use marijuana for medicinal purposes under a now-closed federal program. Every 25 days, he picks up a tin of 300 marijuana cigarettes provided by the federal government via his local pharmacy. Smoking 10 to 12 cigarettes a day for the past 33 years — 22 1/2 years with the approval of the White House — has kept his bone tumors under control and managed the constant pain. He told committee members he wanted to help give others the same relief he gets from smoking marijuana.
"When you have a disabling disease, it sucks," Rosenfeld said. "You want to make something good come out of something bad."
It was about to get worse.
After his testimony, Rosenfeld was detained by two secretary of state police officers stationed in the committee room. Extra security had been requested by the U.S. marshal's office for the earlier appearance of John Walters, the White House "drug czar."
The officers walked Rosenfeld through a commonly used tunnel connecting the Capitol with the office building housing the committee room, using a wheelchair when Rosenfeld complained of ankle pain. He was detained in a Capitol basement substation while officers called the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to verify his story.
"He is in fact one of seven who are federally exempt," said Brad Demuzio, director of the Illinois secretary of state police.
McKeon, a former Los Angeles police officer who also is HIV positive, criticized the officers for taking it upon themselves to investigate Rosenfeld when they had heard his testimony about his marijuana use.
"I find that disgusting and offensive," McKeon said.
Demuzio said his officers were justified in the 30-minute detainment.
"When you have a tin with 300 marijuana cigarettes and you walk into the Capitol and you tell us you have a federal exemption, you have to investigate," Demuzio said.
The incident upstaged the earlier appearance of Walters, who serves as director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. Walters told lawmakers that marijuana abuse and dependency accounts for 60 percent of rehabilitation treatment sought nationwide and can often lead to methamphetamine abuse.
"This is not your father's marijuana," Walters said. "This is not your marijuana when you were in college, if you are a baby boomer. You are suffering under 'reefer madness' madness if you think it is."
The federal Food and Drug Administration has not approved marijuana for medical use. A 1978 Illinois law allows participants in federally approved research projects to use medical marijuana, but that law has never been implemented.
Committee members rejected HB407 on a 4-7 vote, with opponents questioning how law enforcement officials could contain such a program.
McKeon, however, said he would continue with the proposal, and suggested setting up a teleconference among law enforcement officials in Illinois and the 10 states with medical-marijuana laws to further the debate.
"I'm going to proceed with this legislation, period," McKeon said.
http://ww2.saukvalley.com/news/282655359723341.bsp
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How to prevent cannabis-induced psychological distress . . . in politicians
See page 1579
Cannabis can cause anxiety, agitation, and anger among politicians. The consequences of this cannabis-induced psychological distress syndrome (CIPDS) include over-reaction with respect to legislation and politics and a lack of distinction between use and misuse of cannabis. In times of a war against drugs, this distinction might even be regarded as unpatriotic, 1 as irresoluteness in the face of the enemy. One trend associated with CIPDS involves taking away the driving licence of people who drive and are discovered to have inactive tetrahydro-cannabinol metabolites in their urine. 2 In a more severe state of paranoia even medicinal use can be perceived as a threat to society, since it might “destabilize the societal norm that drug use is dangerous”, 3 ignoring the fact that many prescription and over-the-counter drugs are potentially harmful. Exaggerated laws on cannabis made by anxious individuals could be regarded as a modern version of the generational conflict. 4 Rationality and factuality are needed to calm down politicians affected by CIPDS. That cannabis mightcause infertility, cancer, cognitive decline, dependency,traffic accidents, and heart attacks, and that it can lead to the use of more dangerous drugs, are all arguments that have been used to justify the war on cannabis. Drugs can be harmful, whether they are legal or illegal, but claims about the dangers of cannabis are oftenoverstated.
The Lancet, May 15, 2004:
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| "This is not your father's marijuana," Walters said. "This is not your marijuana when you were in college, if you are a baby boomer. You are suffering under 'reefer madness' madness if you think it is." |
They just don't care how stupid they look do they! 
Do they actually think that someone who takes a hit from a that strong (if it even exists) can't help themselves and have to smoke the whole thing??! Ludicrous, I tell you!! Only drunk college kids would do that...waste really good sacrament as tho there's no tomorrow.
I've been around a long time and I've never met anyone in my entire life (except back in college when pot was cheap) who would actually do that!
It's just sickening how people like Walters who are supposed to be so intelligent just make fools of themselves with their pathetic naivete...
Who would be such a fool to believe such nonsense? Ahhh, the Bush administration, that's who! 
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Ahhhh poor f***d up politicians unable to make a true judgement cause they're all stressed out...
Might make them pretty dangerous tho... 
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"This is not your father's marijuana," Walters said. "This is not your marijuana when you were in college, if you are a baby boomer. You are suffering under 'reefer madness' madness if you think it is."
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| Fyrefly1 wrote: |
Ahhhh poor f***d up politicians unable to make a true judgement cause they're all stressed out...
Might make them pretty dangerous tho... |
Yep...they really need to try the herb. It does wonders for anger and can lead to a greater understanding of life in general. Oh wait...I forgot to refer back to the Pharisee article. I guarantee they all have their drug of choice, be it caffine, nicotine, pain killers, cocaine, the list goes on.
For the life of me I can not understand this prohibition and the hatred of a plant. |
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Ahhhh poor f***d up politicians unable to make a true judgement cause they're all stressed out...
Might make them pretty dangerous tho... |
Yep...they really need to try the herb. It does wonders for anger and can lead to a greater understanding of life in general. Oh wait...I forgot to refer back to the Pharisee article. I guarantee they all have their drug of choice, be it caffine, nicotine, pain killers, cocaine, the list goes on.
For the life of me I can not understand this prohibition and the hatred of a plant. |
It must be the fallout from all those years of watching our favorite movie, 'Reefer Madness'...
I know! Lets make a comedy called "Eggplant Insanity"....
We could skulk around as bushes with fried eggs all over our faces trying to peep inside the whitehouse windows to see what GW is up to...
Then we could grab a politician and squash eggs all over his face until he begged for mariju....I mean, mercy!
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There is absolutely NO doubt that Cannabis has been used in almost every culture for thousands of years. Its medicinal proof is in religious texts, ancient Chinese medical texts etc...
Come on folks.. If anything Cannabis is responsible for helping to create our greatest thinkers in the religious, philosophical, scientific and artisan fields. The proof is there. I see it, why cant anyone else.
We owe who we are today as a society to the God given plant of miracles, Cannabis.
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| Rev. Chazman wrote: |
There is absolutely NO doubt that Cannabis has been used in almost every culture for thousands of years. Its medicinal proof is in religious texts, ancient Chinese medical texts etc...
Come on folks.. If anything Cannabis is responsible for helping to create our greatest thinkers in the religious, philosophical, scientific and artisan fields. The proof is there. I see it, why cant anyone else.
We owe who we are today as a society to the God given plant of miracles, Cannabis.
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I think many many people do see it and privately will acknowledge it too.
Trouble is, the current admin has gotten people so scared that they are unwilling to expose themselves or their families. I know quite a few people who use cannabis but just don't talk about it.
We here on the boards are on a mission, whether private or public...
We're part of that select group called to point out the hypocrisy and deception in our land and talk about what we can do to make a difference!
We are called to educate, which is just what you're doing, my brother...educating all of us so we can go out and educate the rest of the world!
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As well as a few others...like alcohol, tobacco and mushrooms!
Truer words were never spoken....cannabis is indeed, a miracle plant!
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amen brother Joe
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