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Rev. Chazman · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

Way back when he originaly posted against Cannabis Culture and NORML being even mentioned on our site... I stood up right away and said it was wrong to remove them. Both have done a lot of good. Personaly id be offended if we snubbed either one. Not that what I think really matters. Just thought id toss it in for contrast.

This re-discussion of old stuff as though its new... is well... geting old.

Peace
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Dreamz0fSafty · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 101

WOw I have read through most of that and it sounds like alot was mis interrepted and alot was not explained enough on my part as far as how I wanted you to understand what I wrote... I am not very good with my social skillz Embarassed

so bare with me having smoked some sacrament I realize that I should have thought a little bit longer about what I wanted to say... But it was early in the morning I wasnt fully awake and a little bit grumpy so sorry for all the emotion I have caused... I will explain and ellaborate a little bit more of my feelings and new understands little bit later. I haved learned alot from every member here that has posted and am in debt to all of you Smile

Thank you...

Sorry for being a little bit wrong I do that some times... Laughing

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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:34 am Post subject:

Addendum:

Marc is no angel, to put it mildly, and his shabby treatment of one THC minister, in particular, is inexcuseable.

Not my story to tell, however.

Bliss on,
Ben
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:

No problem, DOS.

I have a yellow sticky on my monitor for early mornings:

No Coffee - No Typing. rofl

Bliss
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:59 am Post subject:

Me too...I'm fairly worthless w/o a first cup.

Heck, I can't even unglue my eyes from the eyelids....

Laughing

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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:01 am Post subject:

Stokes · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:

Over 20 years ago ... I had an english teacher who had a poster in his classroom that said:

"To communicate is the beginning of understanding"

... for some reason it meant a lot to me at the time ... now, it means even more.
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Hi Ben , yes it was me, Marc called me "rotten Woman" on a public list , he didn't like me to say the truth about him taking credits of the Iboga therapy house but not doing anything there, talk as if he is an experienced Iboga therapist but just repeating old news, he refused to treat someone I know,
but when that person said "I will start a cannabis political party... in the U.S.A
then the door went open and he got treated for free but with too little of the iboga and too short treatment , That's when he came off 100mg of methadone/heroin, so he still was in withdrawals when he had to leave the treatment, start using again,
and he felt abused , it was traumatic to be treated like that and be promissed
to have pain free detox. and after was pushed to start the political party and had to back off, but everyone was sooo nice but too f*cked up to know what they are doing ..."pain Free Detox. for free" Hmmm

but then everyone has to shut up because Marc has the Cash he will bite
you if you say any uglly truth about the prince... and his tricks.

He is telling everyone that he helped me, but that is totally untrue,
it was part of a political deal, and I paid a big price for that "help".

I don't like to mix a sacrament and politics, it just spoils the high.
now, I watch out for big dogs.

the facts are all on the internet only it is search,but we better just stay spirtual and have some thc.
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject:

You're a wise woman, Sara.

Bliss on!
Ben
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

there is one rule when working with a sacrament, you treat your sacrament with respect it will treat you back the same,

somehow it is a personal relationship with a sacrament,like a family.

plants animals and people are like family,not like business partners or political partners.
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:07 am Post subject:

I agree and thanks for saying it!

Smile

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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:32 am Post subject:

Amen to that.

I feel like there's a symbiotic relationship between the teacher-plant and the person.

Perhaps the teacher-plant is able to experience itself in a very significant way by interacting with human consciousness.

Bliss on,
Ben
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: