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Nachtschattenreich Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 509 Location: Franconia, Germany, Europe, Old World
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: Where Is The Ministry Going? |
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“The World Mind of humanity is currently permeated with fear, stress and discord as a result of unnatural Intent. … We have within our power the ability to transform this planetary fear, pain and confusion.” (Matthew Webb)
As we enter the 23rd Quartal since the Eris Temple Attack, it becomes increasingly visible how the drug war has come into a decisive stalemate. In the Americas, a new generation of rebel televangelists, such as the current president of Venezuela, who was recently anticipated as the hemisphere´s future spiritual leader at his visit to Persia, is leading a crusade against the White House, where scared Contrarians sugarcoating espionage as patriotism have entrenched themselves into the Californian ideology´s delusions of unlimited power. In Eurasia, where Islam remains the biggest player in the drug war, political elites are running in a circle of blame, with each side accusing the other they would employ drugs as a weapon against them, but the increasing cluelessness shown by the leadership is prevented from translating into popular debate by the culture industry and its brainwashing operations. In Africa, the promise of unity remains open like an old wound, and as her exiles gather around the sacred plants, they continue to watch the efforts of the Atlantic powers in the prohibition issue, while a power with a record of being exposed to the abuse of drugs as a weapon, China, is gaining stronghold back home. On the other side of the world, Australia is still a prison of a culture longing for its dream time, and Antarctica a white Hell as it always was and will be.
Yet this situation is not entirely positive. If Americans receive clandestine satisfaction from the idea of Bush feeling the boxcutter nearing his throat, this does not necessarily imply any progress in the abolition issue. If Europeans hallucinate reciting the Shahada was the key to the restoration of Cannabis culture, this is an example how being exposed to propaganda and decidedly doing the opposite of what the propaganda is saying still means being controlled by propaganda. If Africans abuse the Cannabis as a figleaf to deteriorate into the same barbarianism as the other activists in the religious wars that are still mangling the big black continent, they risk sudden dropout of the High into a Crocodiles´ den. If the rest of the world expects Australia to come forward and clean up the current mess, it can only hold up that expectation for a limited amount of time. And, of course, if the drug war should take a turn that would require to retreat the last plant to Antarctica, we would have a problem.
But that is as far as the risks go. The basic pattern that can be found in all these scenarios is one and the same: Although the rebels that have militarily achieved this stalemate are cultural products of prohibition, they are all but principled opponents of prohibition, they are power-hungry would-be commanders-in-chief of a drug war to be continued into perpetuity. They have been spawned by a failed policy and when they suddenly turned out to be monsters they became pretexts to keep up the failed policy. They are not allies in any reasonable sense of the word. They are Anslingers Children.
This is the key dilemma of the drug war: The prohibitionists are not threatened by principled opponents of prohibition, they are threatened by demons emerging from the collateral damage of the past pursuit of their sick cause. This is not only a situation that exposes how detached the prohibitionist agenda has become from any moral guiding principle it may ever have had, it has produced a stalemate encompassing the entire war from elementary tactics up to the highest layers of strategy. This is a stalemate in which not only troops have locked their horns, but spiritual leaders as well. One significant characteristic of such a scenario is the relative calm, with a few little snafus here or there, but lacking any galvanising big battles, that may become subject to sudden entropy. This is a situation that is not very well understood by so many in this world, so that still only a few are able to cast their intentions on it, and with all this taken into account, it is a situation that, for better or worse, cannot stand. When carefully looked at, the defenders of the status quo do indeed display unintended signs of insight into the cognitive dissonance of their efforts, but in their position of power they lack the ability to recant the pretext of a war from which they cannot disengange without collapse. The prohibitionists are held hostage by the pretext of their past neighbourhood policies, this is why those demons are real to them in the first place. Asking Washington to kick the so-called drug Czar out of his Kremlin would be like asking a man with a Stockholm Syndrome to grow some selfesteem.
To be best prepared to deal with this situation, we must lay down any expectation that the impulse to the abolition of prohibition may come from government, either present or to be elected in the future. Even though individual politicians from time to time make such a promise, even if they are sincere they still have to base it on a – in more cases than not – fundamentally flawed party platform, to which they will be expected to compromise it in their party´s power dance – or perpetually remain in opposition. And if there was a national government sincerely convinced of the rightfulness of abolition, it would have to withdraw from prohibition treaties that have handcuffed its supreme court, while keeping track with the possible ramifications of such a step in international law, such as to efforts for the prohibition of weapons of mass destruction, which then might come to be seen as open to the option of unilateral withdrawal as well. Politicians, if they were wise, would realise that they vitally depend upon the support of the Ministry, but most of them are ignorant and deluded. What is opening up in front of our eyes is a semantic no-man´s land, where no distinction can be made between governments that are harbouring prohibition, and these who actively enforce it.
Neither can abolition result from legal defense. Whenever the prohibitionists are dragging an individual into the courtroom, however well-prepared the attacked may be, he will always be in a position of weakness, deprived of the sacred plants in a treacherous surprise attack, and in the best case able to achieve a restoration of the status quo ante. A lot of defense lines can be built in anticipation of such an attack, and when it occures kept up with the help of organisations as the THC Ministry, but never has this been sufficient to achieve an outcome which would have required the court to get real and actually roll back prohibition. Even if there is any recognition of the necessity of free access to Cannabis, it is granted so as a so-called exception, so that accepting this recognition would only be possible by a reciprocal recognition of prohibition as normality, which cannot be issued under any circumstances. Furthermore, if courts could be driven to overturn false laws, they would still be meddling in the realm of parliaments.
The same thing can be said about medicine. A medicine, by the very definition of the term, is something that is being taken in an exceptional situation with the purpose of returning to normality. The goal of medication is to stop taking medication. The goal of religious Cannabis use is not to stop Cannabis use, it is to remain in close touch with the sacred plant even after it has achieved its healing effects. The medical capabilities of Cannabis are the sideshow to its spiritual powers, not the other way round. If anybody turns this fact upside down, the consequence to him may be a Patient´s Syndrome, in which otherwise healthy individuals hide behind the diagnosis of a disorder to have a pretext for their religious Cannabis use. The Patient´s Syndrome is a widespread disorder, which is more often exploited than diagnosed, and causes many people to hurt themselves with lots of chemicals of questionable value. If religious Cannabis use is masquerading as a disorder it is signing its own death warrant. Instead, the liberation of those who use Cannabis merely to prevent themselves from feeling like dying is something that can only be completed if the focus of our attention goes back from the side-effects of the plant to its core potential.
Abolition can only come if the Ministry takes the lead among the Cannabis-related charities. The semantic no-man´s land beyond the man-made systems of politics and science is populated with all kinds of treacherous obstacles, some of which displaying all over them the signs of being deliberately projected there. To face with unequal arms the so-called intelligence agencies and the agglomeration of insanity they represent, it can become necessary to involve in the high art of covering one´s tracks and hiding one´s intentions, to draw the unsolicited audience into the confusion dance it is begging for. If we cannot hide from the spies we must blind them, and we can blind them by dragging their incredibly lame lies about the dreaded Cannabis conspiracy over their eyes, for them to demonstrate to us what sort of Wilsonians they really are. Obviously, the prohibitionists are determined to keep it up until they are forced into unconditional surrender, and be it only because they are captives to their irrational fears. Such is the psychology of control maniacs. Leaving them behind in our thinking while they still may be reading our communication requires an unity in the cause of abolition for which only a broad platform that is centered around this single decisive issue, such as the THC Ministry, can provide the conditions of the possibility. If this unity is based on the consensus that all Cannabis-based beliefs do benefit when one of them finally succeeds to stop the terror emanating from these who fear to lose their power through abolition.
The Ministry must take the drug war on the offensive. If we want to win, and by winning I do mean nothing less than abolition, we need to challenge the enemies on their own ground. If we cannot entrench ourselves against the status quo, we must see how we can benefit from the difficulties of the defenders of the status quo to entrench themselves against the demons emerging from their past mistakes, and enhance our cause in rolling back the entropy that is encircling them as well. The prohibitionists are mutilating themselves with their uncivilised scourged Earth tactics. If we cannot convert their judges and convince their lawmakers, we must restore the Original Trust in the Sacred Plants from within the Church they claim as theirs. It is the prohibitionists who must be tried whether their faith, as they claim to be entitled to practise it, is as sincere and consistent as any well-meaning human would assume by default, or in fact as duplicitous and evil as the deeds they justify from it, if at all anything more than a figleaf in front of a pathological lust for persecution of innocents.
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Brother Adam Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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So, how do we go about fighting the enemy on their own ground? Are you suggesting radio and TV ads or what?
Do we arm ourselves with full military gear and fight back when they kick in doors?
Help me understand. I don't have the money to take a fight to anyone, but I have a LOT of fight for this cause that I carry with me each day.
I for one, am sick and tired of seeing sincere people attacked for their beliefs.
Are you suggesting a diplomatic approach?
As a poor fella, I don't have much to lose. I am more than willing to give it ALL up to end this fight. What do I have to do?
Name it. _________________ -Brother Adam (we are all one family)
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”
-James Madison
Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face. |
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Stokes Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: PA
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Rev. Adam wrote: |
I am more than willing to give it ALL up to end this fight. What do I have to do?
Name it. |
We must vigilantly share our knowledge with others and encourage them to pass it on as well.
Critical Mass is our only hope in this God forsaken war against our own.
highest regards,
Stokes _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where love is, there God is also.
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David Bard

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Rev.Adam,
I think it's a case of rising when the time is right!!!!
If we all do what we are already doing, we can be sure we are not going backwards.
The government that rule now are so consumed in Iraq, that we are in the best opportunity to gnaw away at the Drugs war and brake it down!!!
Most important of all is unity and regular communication!!!
Takes me back to WW2. ssssh the walls have ears, we must get the rations through to the front line.
I think your right with advertising  |
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Nachtschattenreich Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 509 Location: Franconia, Germany, Europe, Old World
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Adam, by "their own ground" I am referring to ideological ground, not the military or media battlefield.
I have now for a while been contemplating about how I can bring back Cannabis into a monastery and reestablish the Sacred Garden there.
I cannot do that as long as I depend on the black market. It is still difficult to do that alone when random encounters with state power can throw my efforts back to zero. It doesn´t even need to be deliberate sabotage originating from rebel spies.
Then there´s the experience, from the end of the Stasi, that spy entities being shut down leave behind huge archives that require to he held in trust by legacy management bureaucracies. In the case of the Stasi, the activists rallying at its doors in 1989 were only little perpared to to take over the lead of a cleanup institution that allowed any applicant to see, while protecting the privacy of others, what the Stasi had collected about him. It´s never too early to work out such plans for spy entities. Actually, you need to be ready to stand guard Orange Revolution style so that they don´t burn their espionage files when they see freedom circling in on them.
I also do have a very different situation if I can adress my Church with the backing of an interfaith platform. I want be open about the Cannabis from the very beginning, and do so out of a position of restoration not rebellion. I need to perform as if the mundane evil of prohibition already did not have any effects on my way of life any more. |
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datboyc regular contributor

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 49 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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yes i agree, and this is very possible. Being "open from the beginning" is slightly more difficult. You can be "open" to those whom need know what you are about. Your church can be open and operating, with cannabis sacrament as a requirement, just don't let everyone and their grandmother know. Be very selective of members durring the first few years, and then there should be no problem if you tell everyone. By then you will have been able to figgrue out any possible problems you might have with the genneral publics views on the legality of your church.
once again, documentation is key here. If you've been in operation/existance for years, and can prove that you are not causing any kind of problems for the surrounding community, while at the same time "proving" (this is where the documentation comes in) that you and your members are being responsible about your use of the sacrament, then what issues can anyone have with your continuing practice of faith? |
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Nachtschattenreich Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 509 Location: Franconia, Germany, Europe, Old World
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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With openness I am referring to the fact that I want unequivocal Cannabis reference to be a self-evident part of any first contact I do make with any monastery, e.g. by using a Ministry letterhead.
My specific difficulty is I cannot be selective with Church members. One sixth of the world´s population are Catholics and the only choice I can make is all or none, setting up another group would feel to me like emigrating.
If you think of my situation think of someone who is trying to become self-reliant in sacrament supply, but still a quasi-refugee living in a state of kirchenasyl in his own parish, maybe condemned to fasting until my own plants bear fruits. |
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Spin~ello Full member


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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Aloha every1
IMO
The war on cannabis & other natural flora ,shall end soon & it shall come to pass from revelations within the mainstream big three of "the book's".
IMO
The long corrupt catholic church has 1 more pope on its list ,until it shall cease to exist as it currently sits ,by its own followed & self deemed holy "prophesy of Malachi".
IMO
The truth sits in the vat-ican basement library & shall be revealed by them "with grace" or unveiled "sadly by chance & force by ones unaware of what is hidden" & thus soon made public.They can no thing to stop
"the soon to pass ,to the masses"
revelation of these ancient texts ,that they long ago placed in its vat & are close to ripeness.
I must state maholo/domo/thank you to:
Nachtschattenreich(Night shade realm) 4 sharing his mind
& IMO he is wise ,in that
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| Original Trust in the Sacred Plants from within the Church they claim as theirs |
is unavoidable & his "Key" words are "from within".
(I hope wish & pray it passes peacefully this way)
I would like to state I am not a minister here or anywhere( I am of all faiths &/or paths ,that sadly have been sect~ioned from spherical & spinning wholeness ) ,as there is no thing I am not part of.Ignorance = not being aware of a thing or things & is my only enemy ,as it is an act of purely & simply not knowing or intensionally ignoring things that are absolute truths.Such as I(spin~ello) am ignorant @ times in a pure fashion & have grown to decipher truths in matters I experience & thus tend to avoid the latter definition(*not always* as I am not perfect).
Just as love evolves & revolves ,no thing is perfect(from L. perfectus "completed,").
Thus "pure ignorance" causes me only require the knowledge that one/many is/are blind due to lack of experience to then share wisdom ,when I am able or inquired to & "intensional ignorance" causes me to feel mainly sadness ,as I would with the blind & deaf ,as I cannot provide sight & hearing to them nor the added joys that both bring.
Mahalo/domo/thank you every1 for letting me observe your current mindsets & share mine. _________________ My surname Spinello
means "jOINT of cannabis" in Italian.
JOINT as in anOINT ,appOINT & OINTment.
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Pay heed,I plead,Plant the seed ,. 4 we all
need, the reed weed seed
to be freed, from greed and creeds!
I bid(offer)U peace |
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zero Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Rev. Adam wrote: |
| Do we arm ourselves with full military gear and fight back when they kick in doors? |
YEAH! That's what I'm talking about, let's kick some ass! _________________ www.shoutwire.com
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"I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed." |
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Brother Adam Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Amen zero. I wish we could handle it without having to be violent. I've spent a good portion of my life training in martial arts, and had a good number of fights in my youth.
It is sad though because our police who's duty it is to "uphold the constitution" as well as "serve and protect" are training in FULL military gear. They have full body armor, face masks, automatic weapons, flash bangs, and grenades that they train constantly with. The ONLY purpose of this training is so that they can kick in the doors of free citizens of this country.
Our police undergo full military training to use against our citizens.
If there is even a single person that doesn't see a problem with this, they are not a patriot, and not worthy of flying our colors, yet even that idea has been turned upside down. The people who support this stuff are somehow noble, while the ones getting their doors kicked in should find another country? _________________ -Brother Adam (we are all one family)
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”
-James Madison
Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face. |
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Nachtschattenreich Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 509 Location: Franconia, Germany, Europe, Old World
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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The most decisive factor in any fight with enemy forces is psychological warfare.
From the first eye contact on, the agent will be snapping on anything that smells like fear, and it is possible to train oneself to deal with this sort of behaviour in the most deescalating way. E.g. when I was driving the autobahn, I prepared in advance conversation topics that I could bring up to maintain the sovereignty over our conversation. This is more difficult if the agent already brings an entry suspicion - from spying, denunciation, etc. - but not entirely impossible.
You can in advance imagine police encounters in detail if you focus your intent on the dog characters in the empty uniforms. Be the wolf over the pack of dogs. If you have a tendency for acting, you can practise a home raid, or train attendance for surprise attacks. From every case report I read on thise board I learn a little bit more about how the apparatus works and how it may be hacked. But I suppose another Waco would primarily come to be seen as a an issue of Desert Storm veterans, with the Cannabis being lost in the smokescreen. |
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RogerChristie Cannabis Sacrament Minister.

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 1098 Location: Hilo, Kingdom of Hawai'i
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: Where is the ministry going? |
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Hello there,
Aloha. Thanks for starting and posting this thread.
Rev. Adam wrote:
Do we arm ourselves with full military gear and fight back when they kick in doors?
zero wrote:
YEAH! That's what I'm talking about, let's kick some ass!
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That's exactly NOT where this ministry is going! Thanks for your enthusiasm, but this is a ministry, not a militia. :-}
For those who are feeling the need for an Old Testament solution; 'eye for an eye', etc. I recommend that you look within yourself to see where that's coming from, then re-think your position and feelings and redirect them into a harmonious goal. Ask spirit to guide you. Give thanks in advance for the outcome of your best dreams coming true.
Watch The Secret. www.thesecret.tv
I know some of your frustrations so I know that's partly why you feel like a military-like answer to a spiritual problem. It's very human, however we're WAY past that oldtime confusion.
Part of the blame lies with me. I have been only somewhat successful in assisting you to be certain of your RIGHT to Cannabis sacrament in your garden and in your life.
Where is this ministry, our ministry, going? Great question. We're going local, national and global. Some of what I'm invisioning includes:
1. A 'religious exemption' and / or a Federal injunction from the U.S. of A. to completely and permanently protect our ministry and our members.
2. A training manual for newcomers in addition to the kit of their choice; Practitioner or Minister.
3. Credit card-sized, hemp-plastic i.d. cards with our member's digital photo and full legal name.
4. A new member sign-up fee of $10., and an offering of $10. per month per member to help finance some of the above.
In addition, we have not, yet, been given fair and equal treatment in any news media - anywhere - that I know of. The day that happens, we succeed. Our future is very bright, indeed!
What do you think? Mahalo.
All the best to you,
Roger
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Brother Adam Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Roger. I was simply asking the question to be sarcastic because our police forces train just like our military forces to use those tactics on free citizens of this once great nation. I would hope you know me better than that by now?
I've watched them train first hand. Full body armor, face masks, fully automatic weapons, flash bangs, grenades, the whole deal. It made me sick to my stomach.
Just like in martial arts we are taught to use an opponents energy against them, and can do so without causing harm to our opponents; I do feel the same can be accomplished here.
The injunction is one way of doing it. Another includes using the energy they've already put into harassing our members and turning that into a clear cut decision in the courts. There are a couple cases now that would be worthy of some attention in this manner. _________________ -Brother Adam (we are all one family)
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”
-James Madison
Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face. |
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zero Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I was just being an ass. It would be easier if we could just kick some ass and get our way, but that's not the way the world works. If we ever want to be taken seriously we need find some kind of peaceful solution to all this madness.
Of course, if that doesn't work, we can always threaten the world with a huge laser... _________________ www.shoutwire.com
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"I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed." |
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Nachtschattenreich Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Spinello - The only way how the Church could commit suicide is by betraying the Holy Land. To a certain extent this depends on how medieval prohecies are being interpreted during conclaves, but that is not the only factor. Yet, even the total loss of the knowledge of the Sacred Plants was not able to kill it, though it got severely harmed in the catastrophy. |
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