What about the war for oil now?

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: What about the war for oil now?

Just wondering what some of you think about the war for oil now? The first sentiments of Bush supporters are "where's your war for oil now" while prices rise as the US steals billions of barrels of oil from Iraq, supposedly, they say....

Is it just me that sees this as a perfect scenario for oil mongering thugs? Let's see....we've got billions of gallons of crude for free from the war (or at least someone like Halliburton does, maybe), but someone has continued pushing prices higher in order to deny the "war for oil" claims coming from everywhere around the world, including some inside sources. How convenient is it to allow a tragic event to send oil prices through the roof when the president's ratings are at an all time low due to people awakening to the bed of lies he has laid out? Discovering the truths about 9-11, Al-quaida (CIA), and the blatant grab for a dwindling resource in Iraq...

"SEE! Oil is going through the ROOF because of Katrina! If our government was fighting Iraq for oil, this wouldn't be happening!"

The president prommised in his speach (and all his mightiness) that the government would doll out some of it's reserves in order to lighten the impact. How nice of him! Cheney must have told him Halliburton would give a little gift to those affected by the storm cuz god knows they don't have the National Guard resources to help out with......They're busy in Iraq!

So, post your opinions. What do you think now? How do you answer the "where's your war for oil" in light of all this? I still say it was plain to see in questionable, if not down right ILLEGAL actions of giving away $7 BILLION --NO BID-- contracts and control of Iraqi oil pipelines to the private company Halliburton, of which, VP Dick(head) Cheney was formerly CEO, and continued to receive revenues as "deffered compensation" DURING his tenure as a political leader! Cool

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doja · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:48 am Post subject:

more and more people are starting to feel the effects of this senseless war. the relief effort in new orleans is unbelievable. our government is spending over $500 million a day on iraq, but we can't get help to victims in our own country...that's a fucking tragedy.
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:

Pepper · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:45 am Post subject:

The US wants to maintain the value of the US dollar by politically forcing countries to sell oil for US dollars. The US is not just interested in oil from Iraq, it is concerned to maintain political dominance over all the oil-producing countries of the region.

Iraq was one of the first OPEC countries, in 2000, to convert its reserves from dollars to euros.

Iran and China are diversifying currency reserves away from dollars into euros. Russia has also increased it's euro holdings.

Hugo Chavez has been taking Venezuelan oil out of the petrodollar economy by bartering oil directly for commodities from thirteen other third world countries.

It was a war for oil money and now Iraq will be accepting US dollars. This is the real reason that country was bombed, to maintain the value of the US dollar. Anybody that believes it was about the liberation of the Iraqi people and democracy has been fooled.

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:54 am Post subject:

**aeroplane** · Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:

I had just read yesterday that OPEC has made a profit in excess of something like $300,000,000,000+ so far this year. Before the invasion of Iraq, they were averaging only $93,000,000,000,000 a year. I'll try to find the article and post the link here.

On another note, Señior Chavez has offered to sell cheap oil directly to the poor through the Venezualian owned Citgo petrol stations in America... this dispite Roberston's call for his assination.
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Shamash · regular contributor Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

Are you aware that the Iraqis themselves only pay between 5 and 23 CENTS per gallon for gas?

Guess who is subsidizing them? The International Monetary Fund, which,
of course, gets its money mostly from the USA.

How does it make you feel that you're paying almost $3 a gallon while your
overbloated taxes give the Iraqis a free ride?

You better get off this forum and get back to work! The Iraqis are depending on you!

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**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Empire America

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject:

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject:

Some say that money is the root of all evil. Some say it's the lust for money that is the root of all evil......I say it's the heart's of men.
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-Brother Adam (we are all one family)

“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”

-James Madison

Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

Shamash · regular contributor Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

Bingo Rev. Adam

It's the hearts of men that's the problem.

It's not in the bottle of booze you drink,
It's not in the weed you smoke,
It's not in the gun you tote.

It's a man's lust, greed, envy, and jealousy that drives him to lie, cheat,
steal, or murder to get what he wants regardless how it destroys others.

The booze, the weed, the gun, etc., are just the tools we use to get what
we want whether it's simply a buzz, a high, or someone else's money.

Shamash
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"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead
to political prosperity, Religion and morality
are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of
Patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great Pilliars of human happiness."

George Washington (Farewell Address,
19 September 1796)

Shamash · regular contributor Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 31