We lost. What a surprise

Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

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Now they will step up the prosecution of the sick and dying to unheard of heights. Watch out Roger, the pig is coming for YOU next. Don't fly buddy and always carry your gun. Those draconian snitch laws WILL be passed.

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject:

....their poll:

Rev.DonEstebonGoneCMA · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:

I always knew that begging the Capitol for rights was going to blow-up in our face...i seriously hope none of our US Ministers & Caregivers are paying federal taxes...if so,you are funding your own demise.

Back 2 tha Undaground....

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Pepper · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject:

Yes, it's bizzaro world. Despite failure to control the drug market, the right for states to allow medical marijuana is denied because the huge market may be affected. smash

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject:

The MYSTIC HAMMER OF BONKING is appropriate...

Rolling Eyes

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Pepper · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

Fortunately, the medical cannabis laws in all states are still intact. Zero tolerance policies never work. You would think the Federal government would have higher priorities than attacking the sick.

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject:

'Zero tolerance' is purely political rhetoric. Politicians know that it can never be accomplished but they don't care because it's an election year tool that works.

The ideal is the thing...ignorant people want to believe in a drug free society ideal and the politicians know this and use and milk it for all its worth!

The general public don't think about the obvious fact that with all the 'legal' drugs out there, there can never be a drug free society. They only know what the politicians controlled media feeds them (CNN, Fox News).
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject:

"It is best in cases like this to pretend that you are stupid..."
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:

This makes me so sad, but it does not come as a surprise. It's the Supreme Court bowing to the pressures of Corporate America. Next, it will bow to the Religious Right and outlaw all sacramental herbs, plants and fungi used for enlightenment, whatever that means to each of us.

Sad

Major Bu-uhmmer! Sad

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**Torkel** · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:

I read thru the transcripts a while ago...it seems to me the majority of points stressed were, "how it would effect the ECONOMY".

It dealt very little with states or patients best interests or rights.

Here is the link to the transcripts:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/03-1454.pdf

This court decision is a blow to ALL of usa's citizens rights!

FUCK the stupid ass politicians & their joke of a judicial system.

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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:32 am Post subject:

Yeah, I found the same thing...that they were more worried about the impact on intrastate commerce that untaxed but legal medical cannabis would cause.

They have shown conclusively that they don't give a hoot whether or not people are suffering.

And these are the same people who call themselves christians! Where is the mercy...?
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Rev.Holden Greene · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:

from rob kampia

Dear MPP supporter:

In an historic decision today, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6 - 3 that the federal government can continue arresting patients who are using medical marijuana legally under state law. However, the decision did not overturn the medical marijuana laws in 10 states, which still protect patients from arrest by state and local police.

The Marijuana Policy Project's grants program provided the majority of the funding for this litigation, which is only the second medical marijuana case ever to reach the Supreme Court.

TAKE ACTION

Now that the Court has ruled, we need you to spring into action. Please click here to send a free fax or e-mail to your U.S. representative to ask him or her to protect medical marijuana patients, since the ball is now in Congress' court. In fact, a medical marijuana amendment is scheduled to come to the House floor for a vote next week. Our goal is to send 10,000 letters to Congress by the time of the vote, but we won't be able to achieve that goal without your help.

Then, please visit www.RaichAction.org to participate in a demonstration outside of your U.S. representative's local district office at noon on Wednesday, June 8.

BACKGROUND

In its ruling in Ashcroft v. Raich ,the Supreme Court said that Congress — not the Court — must be the institution to change federal law to protect medical marijuana patients from arrest.

Writing for the majority, Justice John Paul Stevens said that there are other legal options for patients, "but perhaps even more important than these legal avenues is the democratic process, in which the voices of voters allied with these respondents may one day be heard in the halls of Congress."

By stressing the need for plaintiffs to use the democratic process, the Supreme Court has clearly put the ball in Congress' court. This makes next week's vote in the U.S. House of Representatives all the more significant.

STATE LAWS UNAFFECTED

The ruling does not affect states' ability to pass new medical marijuana laws; states are free to continue enacting laws that protect medical marijuana patients and their providers from arrest and prosecution by state and local law enforcement officials.

What the Supreme Court has done is continue the status quo: Patients in the 10 states with medical marijuana laws are protected under state law but will continue to risk prosecution under federal law. In other words, the Court's decision means that nothing has changed. Click here for more background on the case.

WE NEED YOUR HELP TO PROTECT PATIENTS!

Since it's now clear that patients cannot count on the federal courts for protection, we must push harder than ever for Congress to change federal law.

We need you to lobby Congress to end the federal government's attacks on medical marijuana patients and caregivers. Please visit www.RaichAction.org to learn how you can help pressure Congress to protect medical marijuana patients.

Then — if you agree that sick and suffering patients should not have to live in fear of armed federal agents breaking down the patients' doors to take away their medicine — please ensure that MPP has the necessary funds to push hard this week and next for Congress to pass an amendment that would prevent the DEA from arresting medical marijuana patients or providers who are acting legally under state law.

Thank you,

Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.
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Rev.Holden Greene · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:

Vote here
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8118359/

Should the federal government prosecute medical marijuana users, now that it has been given the OK by the Supreme Court? * 66891 responses
Yes
10%
No
88%
I'm not sure
2%
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zero · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:40 am Post subject:

This is just a minor setback. I knew from the transcripts this was gonna end up this way.

That dude holden quoted was right, now is the time to strike. When the enemy thinks they have won a great victory. Now we give them the real fight.

Not just medical, not just religous, we want it all legalized. All of our organizations need to come together for our final power move, one huge movement to legalize it for recreational use. We need to hit them while they are drunk on a supposed win. They wont expect it now.

This time we need to look for no less than the complete and total legalization for recreational use of our sacred plant.
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:

This I take as an absolute attrocity towards the rights of THE PEOPLE in this country.

This is a VERY simple matter. THE PEOPLE voted to keep medical marijuana patients out of jail. THE PEOPLE are supposed to do these things to limit the reach of the federal govt. The federal gov't. has now, in a very blatant attack on the rights of WE THE PEOPLE to govern ourselves, and completely dismissed any state laws particularly VOTED FOR BY THE PEOPLE.