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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1396 Location: West Virginia, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject: Watched Hearing on DSM |
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I Watched the live Hearing on DSM by Rep. Conyers, et al...
It appears to me that there is no stopping the impeachment of gw now
Did anyone else watch this? If so, what do ya think?
The participants brought up all the info that we already know - like the LIES, LIES, LIES fabricated by the bush admin & the ripofflicans.
This is indeed a "crisis" in american history.
The american citizens need to: push, push, push this as Robert Plant used to sing
Peace,
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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Dreamz0fSafty Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 101
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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you sayin GW Bush is going to be impeached  _________________
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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1396 Location: West Virginia, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Yep. The preliminary hearing was this afternoon at 2:30 in a small room in the basement of the capitol bldg.
The head of the House is a ripofflican who denied Rep. Conyers an official hearing room...so this was an "unofficiala' hearing, so to speak.
None the less, it has begun...
Speak out & march for victory and justice for ALL (gwb)
Peace,
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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Rev. Steve Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Jr's going to be impeached?  |
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Brother Adam Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1915
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Dance in the streets! Prolly too good to be true..but just the idea is reason enough!  |
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Echo Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 1899 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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It would be far too easy for me to dance and party with you at this great idea. But because:
#1 A little bird told me he will get away with it like Michael Jackson did
#2 Should he be impeached (even if unlikely) he will be replaced by another like-minded person. This person will look different only on the surface but will still have to execute what he will be told by higher commanders.
#3 I will belive it only after it actually happens
I will postpone the celebrations for the time being... _________________
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Well I know what’s right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin’ me around
But I’ll stand my ground and I won’t back down
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Echo Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 1899 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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You better push harder my friends. We need a clean USA president for a cleaner world. _________________
| Tom Petty wrote: |
Well I know what’s right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin’ me around
But I’ll stand my ground and I won’t back down
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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1396 Location: West Virginia, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Echo wrote:
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| You better push harder my friends. We need a clean USA president for a cleaner world. |
You are right, Echo.
I made phone calls to both of my senators & rep today, asking them to make sure they support this investigation.
The republicans and media are going to try and stop this from happening by refusing to acknowledge the need along with trivialization the facts.
We have learned that the media is trying to make this be seen as an issue over political parity.
I need to curse...
Peace,
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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aeroplane Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 1472 Location: Valhalla
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| #2 Should he be impeached (even if unlikely) he will be replaced by another like-minded person. This person will look different only on the surface but will still have to execute what he will be told by higher commanders. |
You are so right about that, Echo. My 8th grade civics class taught me that the guy calling himself the President would be replaced by the other guy calling himself the Vice President. After that, it would be the "ripofflican" with the title of Speaker of the House.
By the way, Tork, I like your new avatar. It's very soothing to look at. Just curious why you chose that one?
Does anyone have a link for this? This is the first I've heard of actions to impeach bush. _________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."
US President Jimmy Carter |
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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1396 Location: West Virginia, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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aero wrote:
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| By the way, Tork, I like your new avatar. It's very soothing to look at. Just curious why you chose that one? |
I was in a hurry when I chose that one... I chose it signifying "we are in a battle"... political, religious & human rights.
Here is a link pertaining to the impeachment effort:
http://www.downsizedc.org/index.shtml
This site is getting an enormous amount of traffic, so keep trying if at first you don't succeed.
Hope it helps.
Peace,
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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aeroplane Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting reason for your avatar choice. Thanks for the link. For a while there I thought I was living in an alternate universe were nobody saw that what the White House was doing as being criminal. _________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."
US President Jimmy Carter |
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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1396 Location: West Virginia, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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aero wrote:
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| For a while there I thought I was living in an alternate universe were nobody saw that what the White House was doing as being criminal. |
Yea, I know how ya feel...
kinda like Mr Douglas felt on the "Green Acres" TV-show, being around:
Eb, Mr Haney, Lisa, Mr Kimball and let's not forget Mr Ziffell & Arnold
People have more fun than anybody...
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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Torkel Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Aero after reading my post again with the link about DSM, I realized that I posted the wrong one
Here is the one I meant to give you:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/index.php
Peace,
Torkel _________________ Miller vs U.S. (230 F 2nd 486,489): "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime."
Miranda vs Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 125): "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."
HAGANS vs LAVINE (415 US 533 N-3,note 5): "Once JURISDICTION is challenged it must be proven by the Plaintiff." |
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aeroplane Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:10 am Post subject: |
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kinda like Mr Douglas felt on the "Green Acres" TV-show, being around:
Eb, Mr Haney, Lisa, Mr Kimball and let's not forget Mr Ziffell & Arnold
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Don't forget Mr. Ed! Damn. Now that was quality television.  _________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."
US President Jimmy Carter |
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aeroplane Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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This is a very interesting comment made by Congressman Conners Hammers Milbank in regards to the Posts coverage of the DSM meetings.
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| First, let me be clear: I consider myself to be friend and supporter of Israel and there were a number of other staunchly pro-Israel members who were in attendance at the hearing. I do not agree with, support, or condone any comments asserting Israeli control over U.S. policy, and I find any allegation that Israel is trying to dominate the world or had anything to do with the September 11 tragedy disgusting and offensive. |
Here's the link. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/299
That was so out of place with the rest of the column, that it was like a Freudian slip. Or maybe more like a for help. _________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."
US President Jimmy Carter |
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