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 Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: U.S. uses napalm gas in Fallujah |
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U.S. uses napalm gas in Fallujah – Witnesses
11/28/2004 9:00:00 PM GMT
A 16 month-old Fallujah child cries while lying in a Baghdad hospital.
The U.S. military is secretly using banned napalm gas and other outlawed weapons against civilians in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, eyewitnesses reported.
Residents in Fallujah reported that innocent civilians have been killed by napalm attacks, a poisonous cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel which makes the human body melt.
Since the U.S. offensive started in Fallujah earlier this month, there have been reports of “melted” bodies which proves that the napalm gas had been used.
"Poisonous gases have been used in Fallujah," 35-year-old Fallujah resident, Abu Hammad said. "They used everything -- tanks, artillery, infantry, and poisonous gas. Fallujah has been bombed to the ground." Hammad was living in the Julan district of Fallujah which witnessed some of the heaviest attacks.
Other residents of that area also said that banned weapons were used. Abu Sabah, said; “They used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud… then small pieces fall from the air with long tails of smoke behind them."
He said that pieces of these strange bombs explode into large fires that burn the skin even when water is thrown on the burns.
Phosphorous arms and the napalm gas are known to have such effects. "People suffered so much from these," Abu Sabah said.
Fallujah “almost gone”
Kassem Mohammed Ahmed, who fled Fallujah last week, said that he witnessed many atrocities committed by U.S. troops in the shattered city. "I watched them roll over wounded people in the street with tanks," he said. "This happened so many times."
Another Fallujah resident Khalil (40) said that “Fallujah is suffering too much, it is almost gone now." He added that refugees are in a miserable situation now, "It's a disaster living here at this camp," Khalil said. "We are living like dogs and the kids do not have enough clothes."
In many refugee camps around Fallujah and Baghdad, people are living without enough food, clothing and shelter. Relief groups estimate that there are more than 15,000 refugee families in temporary shelters outside Fallujah.
Blair under fire over the use of napalm
On Saturday, Labor MPs have demanded that British Prime Minister confront the Commons over the use of the deadly gas in Fallujah.
Halifax Labor MP Alice Mahon said: "I am calling on Mr. Blair to make an emergency statement to the Commons to explain why this is happening. It begs the question: 'Did we know about this hideous weapon's use in Iraq?'"
Furious critics have also demanded that Blair threatens the U.S. to pullout British forces from Iraq unless the U.S. stops using the world’s deadliest weapon.
The United Nations banned the use of the napalm gas against civilians in 1980 after pictures of a naked wounded girl in Vietnam shocked the world.
The United States, which didn't endorse the convention, is the only nation in the world still using the deadly weapon.
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=5875#
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The US is working on an impressive list here..
Depleted Uranium - Forbidden by Geneva convention - used in Iraq
Torture - Forbidden by Geneva convention - used in Iraq
Napalm (they only renamed it, still napalm) - forbidden by Geneva convention - Used in Iraq
I'm sure there are more things that we don't know of YET.
Now who can ever believe the US has "good intentions" with the Iraq people?
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They went there to save the people from Saddam who was killing them with WMD's if I remember correctly.
Kill people withy illegal WMD's in order to save them from being killed by WMD's? That's USA logic.
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Good morning, everyone. 
These atrocities commited by the US Gov & the military do not surprise me at all..they are a repulsive, piss me off very bad kind of thing. 
I wish the rest of the world would step in & stop the US (dubya) in its tracks with the same kind of mercy (none) that the US has shown to others.
Peace, Torkel
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Hi, My name's George. I'm a really nice guy once ya get to know me and long as ya don't go against me or my policies. It's all for the higher good ya know. I'm American made too. I00% Primo Grade AAA Redneck. See, you can bad mouth me all day everyday, that don't bother me none cause I'm bigger than you. And if I can't whoop ya my daddy will. And if he can't do the job ya just might have to face my mommy. If so, may God have mercy upon you. 
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If the us has nothing to hide, they should let neutral parties investigate these reports. i am calling on very responsible american to demand from his gov to allow for an impartial international human rights commission to investigate these events. if the us refuses such demands, then we only have to believe the eyewitnesses with the american record in "hide the truth" area, ask abu ghriab digital cameras.
shaimaa from Egypt
As usual, they and their cronies can do whatever they want when they want. who is to stop the meanest, baddest empire in the world. not even a peep from the un and other human rights watch groups while war crimes are being commited daily. what happened to the principles of nuremberg? i guess the us and it's sattelite state israel are exempt from these rules.
Patrick from USA
Yahoo frm usa canada and usa are good neighbours and best friends,always were and always will be.we have domestic differences occaisonally like friends do and we solve them like friends do and posters on here from either country arent going to change that no matter how hard they try. god bless the usa and their forces wherever they are in harms way. regards
sean from canada
You went to iraq to uproot suspected banned weapons from the country, you didn't show us the stock piles of saddams weapons of mass destruction as claimed before the war and now you are using another banned weapon to clear the shame you have created for your self by liying to the international community. always have something hide, you use a to cover b.
hassan from kaduna, nigeria
I have never read so much propaganda. insurgents were using the city as a base, torturing innocent civilians, and causing the problems. i just read that 41% of pakistanis can't read, and less than 2% of economic output is spent on education. and the education is all about . what is wrong with you people? why do you think you know god's will better than someone else?
kid from usa
It's nice how the article is about melted bodies and the picture is of a wounded child. 100% propaganda story.
Reality from USA
Lexi florida google, napalm iraq, and you will come up with several articles on this subject that need to be taken with a grain of salt. regards
sean from canada
And just for the record. there is no such thing as na8palm gas. na8palm is gasoline jelly, hence, semi solid. it is not poisonous not more than your car and it does not "melt" bodies. we are not in a hollywood starwars movie.
Chris from Thailand
This is propaganda. napalm was never as affective in cities, that was never its use, even when it was part of the us nal. why would they use a weapon that is banned and is less affective?
Eric from USA
The us military does not use napalm. you might me wondering how i can say that with such certainty, well i was a air combat controller. we went behind enemy lines and called in air strikes. we have to know every type of monition that is available for combat use so that we can make sure we use the right one for the right target. i did this during the 1991 war. we learned the uses and effects of every monition in the us nal including nuclear. we do not use napalm. it was never even mentioned during our training. if we cannot call for it then it does not even exist. we could even call for a fuel air bomb, although it needs special approval. these reports are nothing but lies to damage the us militaries image in iraq. the insurgents know that they are losing, so they are trying to turn everyone against the us. it is not going to happen. the majority of the people in iraq see the good work the us is doing and wants the e.
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Sorry if this offends anyone. I'm just feeling a little patriotic today and want to express my love and concern for my brothers and sisters in the military. I don't believe most of American soldiers, if any, would purposely hurt women or children, or innocent civilians. I also realize the implications of serving an evil master if this be the case. What do you expect from a nation whose God is money and they worship the works of thier own hands?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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CNN confirms use of Napalm by Coalition Forces
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www.globalresearch.ca 27 March 2003
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CNN303A.html
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Excerpt from CNN Report
Protecting Iraq's oil supply From Martin Savidge CNN Saturday, March 22, 2003 Posted: 1107 GMT ( 7:07 PM HKT)
"We were up moving into the attack positions with the ground forces as they were preparing to head into southern Iraq. They met some resistance up there at the Kuwaiti-Iraq border. Well, that was quickly resolved. They called in Tomahawk strikes and airstrikes that went on all night long.
There is a lookout there, a hill referred to as Safwan Hill, on the Iraqi side of the border. It was filled with Iraqi intelligence gathering. From that vantage point, they could look out over all of northern Kuwait.
It is now estimated the hill was hit so badly by missiles, artillery and by the Air Force, that they shaved a couple of feet off it. And anything that was up there that was left after all the explosions was then hit with napalm. And that pretty much put an end to any Iraqi operations up on that hill.
Then this morning they airlifted in U.S. military forces that now hold that vantage point. So, all last night there was an intense artillery, air and missile bombardment throughout the southern part of Iraq. And that is what paved the way for the ground forces to begin pushing in." |
American G.I.s are just like any other...some are good people, some are not. Regardless, prolonged, daily exposure to a war results in a soldier's inability to give a $#!T about anything but staying alive. Just the way it is.
Reason #4,193 why war is a phenomenally bad idea. And you may quote me... 
Bliss on...
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American G.I.s are just like any other...some are good people, some are not. Regardless, prolonged, daily exposure to a war results in a soldier's inability to give a $#!T about anything but staying alive. Just the way it is.
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The Iraqi ppl stop being referred to as humans or people by our soldiers as they are now referred to as "The enemy'. If any of you get a chance please watch the hbo documentry "Last Letters home" Its on the HBO on demand channel too.
Its a crying shame that this wasnt let out before the election, oops silly me, what differance would it have made with rigged elections. If you would please look at these familys faces at the end of the documentry when they are posing for pictures. I know these familys didnt reelect Bush and many other military familys didnt either.
Whats happened to the recount in Ohio.....is that been hushed up too?
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I'll  with ya Sis. What can we do when we are forced by society into being slaves to our jobs and money? I would love nothing better than to live free with the earth and nature but how is that any longer possible? I think our brother Hatrackman has the right idea but what can you do when you have family's you are responsible for? With the technology and equipment they have today a person can live like a King/Queen in the wilderness but there it is, we are still slaves to society through dependence on her inventions. I feel like every time I flick my Bic I'm a little bit deeper in debt.
"16 tons and what do you get, another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't ya call me cause I can't go..... I owe my soul to the company store."
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well said brother Mystic.
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The US is working on an impressive list here..
Depleted Uranium - Forbidden by Geneva convention - used in Iraq
Torture - Forbidden by Geneva convention - used in Iraq
Napalm (they only renamed it, still napalm) - forbidden by Geneva convention - Used in Iraq
I'm sure there are more things that we don't know of YET.
Now who can ever believe the US has "good intentions" with the Iraq people? |
That is the most asinine tagline used in conjunction with this war. Who could ever again believe america had "good intentions" for the people of Iraq when the whole goddamned time we've been there, we been waging war on the population.
Whenever america goes into battle, it's motherfucking planes, tanks, artillary, and bombs that look like "mushroom clouds". But it's not against another army that is nearly as well equipt. It's against entire cities. People like you and me using whatever they can find to try to defend their city against the deadliest and best equipt army in the world.
Why isn't the motherfucking United Nations talking about sanctions against the US & UK over these obvious crimes against humanity? What is the difference between Malowshevek in Yugoslavia & Bush in Iraq? Both men waged wars against populations. But why was only one considered a war criminal why the other can still speak at the General Assembly?
WHY?
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17/11/2005 12:51:25 PM
( Source: Reuters)
Torture, phosphorus disclosures hurt US-Iraqi image
By Luke Baker
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A month before Iraq holds elections, Washington and the government it backs in Baghdad find themselves battling for credibility, rather than being able to tout progress towards democracy and human rights.
With the discovery of a torture bunker at Iraq's Interior Ministry in Baghdad, and the admission that U.S. forces used burning phosphorus weapons during their assault on Falluja a year ago, which officials had earlier denied, both parties are struggling for legitimacy in the eyes of Iraqis, analysts say.
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(Brother Ferre and everyone else, I apologize about the page width problem. Could someone pm me with advice on how to prevent this when I add a link? Thanks.  )
Anyway, I just happened to find this at MSN News and it confirms the original article, from 2004, at the start of this topic.
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What goes around comes around.
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