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 Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: The Prophecy of Quetzelcoatl |
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Quetzelcoatl Prophecy
Hundreds of North and South American Indian and South Pacific legends tell of a white-skinned, bearded lord who traveled among the many tribes to bring peace about 2,000 years ago. This spiritual hero was best known as Quetzelcoatl. Some of his many other names were: Kate-Zahl (Toltec), Kul-kul-kan (Maya), Tah-co-mah (NW America), Waicomak (Dakota), Wakea (Cheyenne, Hawaiian and Polynesian), Waikano (Orinoco), Hurakan, the Mighty Mexico, E-See-Co-Wah (Lord of Wind and Water), Chee-Zoos, the Dawn God (Puan, Mississippi), Hea-Wah-Sah (Seneca), Taiowa, Ahunt Azoma, E-See-Cotl (New Guinea), Itza-Matul (Yucatan), Zac-Mutul (Mayan), Wakon-Tah (Navajo), Wakona (Algonquin), etc..
When he left the Toltecs and sailed away to the East, Kate-Zahl promised to return to them after several cycles of their calendar. He made a prophecy about the destiny of the sacred city Tula (now identified with Teotihuacan in Mexico) through two millennia. The Toltecs would be conquered first by the Sacrificers of Men (the Aztecs), then by white-skinned, bearded men of the East carrying fatal "thunder-rods" --- the Spaniards and their guns:
"Further off there is another invasion. In ships many bearded men are coming from across the Sunrise Ocean... I see these men taking the Broad Land... They do not respect our trees of cedar. They are but hungry, unenlightened children...
"Would that I could speak to these bearded farmers. I have tried. They do not hear me. They go on their way like spoiled children...
"Stand with me in the Year of Te-Tac-patl. Look across the Sunrise Ocean. Three ships come like great birds flying. They land. Out come men in metal garments, carrying rods which speak with thunder and kill at a distance. These men are bearded and pale of feature.
"They come ashore and I see them kneeling. Above them I see a Great Cross standing. That is well. If these men are true to the symbol they carry, you need have no fear of them, for no one who is true to that symbol will ever carry it into battle.
"Therefore hold aloft your Great Cross (T), and go forth to meet them. They cannot fail to know that symbol, and would not fire their rods upon it, nor upon those who stand in its shadow. Well they know that what is done to my people is done also to me.
"When the years have come to their full binding, the metal-tipped boots of the strangers will be heard in all the bloody temples. Then throughout the Broad Land has begun the Third Cycle. As yet, I cannot see beyond it.
"Once I had great hope for these people, for I saw them kneel and kiss the sweet earth, and I saw the shadow of the Great Cross which they carried with them. Now I must warn you against them.
"Carry your great books into the jungles. Place your histories deeply in caverns where none of these men can find them. Nor do you bring them back to the sunlight until the War-Cycle is over. For these bearded strangers are the children of War. They speak my precepts, but their ears do not listen. They have but one love and that is for weapons. Ever more horrible are these weapons, until they reach for the one which is ultimate. Should they use that, there will be no forgiveness in that vale where there is no turning. Using such a weapon to make man over, is reaching into the heavens for the Godhead. These things are not for man’s decision, nor should man presume to think for all things, and thus mock the Almighty. Woe to those who do not listen! There are lamps beyond that which you are burning; roads beyond this which you are treading; worlds beyond the one you are seeing. Be humble before the might of the Great Hand which guides the stars within their places. There are many lodges within my Father’s Kingdom for it is more vast than time, and more eternal.
"Keep hidden your books, my children, all during the Cycle of Warring Strangers. The day will come when they will be precious.
"For five full Cycles of the Dawn Star, the rule of the Warring Strangers will go on to greater and greater destruction. Hearken well to all I have taught you. Do not return to the Sacrificers. Their path leads to the last Destruction. Know that the end will come in five full cycles, for five, the difference between the Earth’s number and that of the Gleaming Dawn Star, is the number of these children of War. As a sign to you that the end is nearing, my Father’s Temple will be uncovered. Remember this in the days which are coming."
Tula-Teotihuacan was found and excavated by archaeologists only in recent years. In another prophecy, Kate-Zahl described the city as it will be rebuilt in the future:
"Then the heavens spoke in a crash of thunder, and the lightning flashed above the valley. The Man turned to look again on Tula, his most beloved city. Behold! It was naught but a mass of rubble.
"He wept there with great sorrow. He clung to the rocks, staring back toward Tula. Then the heavens roared again and shook the mountain. A flash of light struck beside Him and cracked the darkness. Behold! The old heaven and earth were vanished, and He looked into another cycle.
"The heavens parted and a rising sun shone down on another Tula. Plainly he could see the valley, but the city was one He knew not. Magnificent was this Golden Tula!
"The Man was lifted beyond the earth. No longer He saw the Age of Destruction. Gone was the horrible Age of Warfare. He was looking beyond the Age of Carnage!
"Walk with me through this Age of the Future. Tula shines in all its glory, but the metals are of types we know not. Loving hands have rebuilt the parkways, have paved the streets, have rebuilt the temples. There is a great building where books are kept for the scholars, and many are those who come to read them. Tula is a great Center of Culture.
"Come with me to the New Colula. Shining again is My Father’s Temple! Once more the city is filled with fountains and the parkways are wire-netted for the birds of rare plumage, and those who sing to enchant the listener. Cross through the parkway to My Father’s Temple. You will see again the inscriptions which today your eyes are seeing, but now all people can read them.
"Come to the city of the future. Here are the buildings unlike those we build, yet they have a breathless beauty. Here people dress in materials we know not, travel in manners beyond our knowledge, but more important than all these differences are the faces of the people. Gone is the shadow of fear and suffering, for man no longer sacrifices, and he has outgrown the wars of his childhood. Now he walks in full stature towards his destiny --- into the Golden Age of Learning.
"Carry this vision on through the Ages, and remember Kate-Zahl, the Prophet."
In Book X of his History, the 16th century chronicler Fray Bernardino de Sahagun described the departure of the "wise men" who had been the attendant priests of Kate-Zahl at Teotihuacan:
"... The wise men remained not long; soon they went. Once again, they embarked and carried off the writing, the books, the paintings; they carried away all the crafts, the castings of metals. And when they departed, they summoned all those they left behind. They said to them: ‘Our lord, the protector of all, the wind, the night, saith you shall remain. We go leaving you here. Our lord goeth bequesting you this land; it is your merit, your lot. Our lord, the master of all, goeth still farther, and we go with him. Whither the lord, the night, the wind, our lord, the master of all, goeth, we go accompanying him. He goeth, he goeth back, but he will come, he will come to do his duty, he will come to acknowledge you. When the world is become oppressed, when it is the end of the world, at the time of its ending, he will come to bring it to an end. But you shall dwell here; you shall stand guard here..."
A surviving Toltec legend says:
"Ce Acatl [Quetzelcoatl] spent a night with a Huiteca family. They fed him and played music for him. The father, a strong Indian farmer, showed Ce Acatl a stone carving he had and told him, ‘This carving tells of the coming of the Lord of the Dawn. It says he will come in the Year One Reed. It says he will build a city and change the world.’
"The farmer had no idea who he was talking to. He continued. ‘Now,’ he said, ‘many people say he will not come. Many people say it is a long time from now that he will come. Some people say he will come from the East and he will bring a great book of words and numbers. Other people say he will come from a tree and count the Last twenty Days of the Creation. What do you say about this?’
"Ce Acatl grew gray with the depth of his answer. ‘If I told you of my thought, of what I know of the Spirit of the Lord of the Dawn, if I told you of what I think will happen, you would laugh and think me crazy. So I say only this: One day a race shall walk upon this earth, a race of men whose spirits are so great, whose wisdom is so complete, whose powers to commune with the Creator are so keen they will dwarf the doings of the Lord of the Dawn of our day. When that day comes the Creator will send forth a manifestation that will in turn amaze the wisest men of that unbelievable age. And even then the greatest brains on earth will wonder --- has he come? Will he come? Or has he been here?’"
When he departed, Ce Acatl promised to close the Thirteenth Heaven and open the First of the Nine Hells, and he vowed to destroy the man-made gods. He set the year and date of his birth (260 years later on Day One Reed in year One Reed) and said, "I shall return. I shall come from the east like the Morning Star, and I will fulfill that part of the prophecy."
It is said that when Ce Acatl passed away at the age of 52, ‘A hush fell over the entire planet, and burning bright in the heavens directly above the great tree, the Tree of Life [El Tule], glowed the planet Venus, the Morning Star."
Quetzelcoatl also foretold that "In time, white men will come out of the eastern sea in great canoes with white wings like a big bird. The white men will be like a bird with two different kinds of feet. One foot will be that of a dove [Christianity], the other of an eagle [predator]. A few hundred years after the arrival of the first white men, other white men would arrive with both feet as a dove". Quetzelcoatl himself or his spirit would come in the form of a white dove at that time.
A Zapotec prophecy, transmitted by Joseph Jochmans, also announced the recent return of Quetzelcoatl: "One of the incarnations of Quetzelcoatl is buried beneath the roots of the sacred El Tule Tree near Oaxaca, and as the first rays of the dawning sun of the new heaven cycle [August 17, 1987] sink into the depths of the Earth, billions of tiny spirits will burst from the heart of Quetzelcoatl. They will slowly rise through the trunk, through the limbs and branches, appearing as sparkles of light, finally erupting from limbs and branches, to circle the globe, each spirit to implant itself within the heart of a human being, and plant a crystal of peace and love..."
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The Toltec version of namaste is I'n Lakesh: You are another me -- or, I am another you.
I like that one.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: Re: The Prophecy of Quetzelcoatl |
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Quetzelcoatl Prophecy
Hundreds of North and South American Indian and South Pacific legends tell of a white-skinned, bearded lord who traveled among the many tribes to bring peace about 2,000 years ago. |
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Mystic, were you talking to my people again with your time machine?
I thought I told you to tell them I was the god of all gods, and that they should leave me a stash of treasure somewhere?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: The Prophecy of Quetzelcoatl |
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Mystic, were you talking to my people again with your time machine?
I thought I told you to tell them I was the god of all gods, and that they should leave me a stash of treasure somewhere? |
Time travel can be very disorienting, as I'm sure you know.
Your stash of treasure, less 50% finder's fee, is located inside a pyramid...somewhere...
The details are a bit sketchy -- but I think it's somewhere in Belize.
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well then..... To Belize to Claim My Birthright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait, do they have camels in Belize?
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wait, do they have camels in Belize? |
Marlboro.
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are they five bucks a pack there too?
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Better switch to Drum, and start rolling 'em.
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I can still get the cheap ones for 2.50 a pack.
even less if I buy and smoke in bulk.
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Smoking in bulk is a great idea!
If you don't take 'em out of the pack, you can fire 'em up and smoke 'em twenty at a time!
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well you better hurry up folks
the day One Reed at the end of the Fifth Age Of Man begins at midnight on the 23 december in the year 2012.time is short.
old Quetzacoatl is coming back then , only this time he is going to be a liiiiitle
bit p1ssed off ! lets hope the indians keep the beakon on top of mount popocatapettle alight or hes going to be really upset.
a seriously awesome find Brother Ferre , one i sincerely thank you for.
its a long time since i heard those words from a man who understood many different cultures and also understood that this theme ran through some of the greatest civilisations that ever lived. those civilisations spanned the globe and spoke many myriad different languages but always this theme keeps popping up.
it comes from a 'legend' going back thousands of years before Christianity was born.
the word QUETZALCOATL comes from an amalgum of the two words QUETZAL and the word COATLE.
QUETZAL - refers to the quetzal bird , a 'bird of rare plumage' , a bird still found in the jungles of south and central America.
COATLE - refers to the western diamond back rattlesnake , also still found in the northern parts of central America.the pattern from its back is found all over the cities and temples of south America.(and indeed , ancient cities all over the earth.)
the city of teotehuacan (the avenue or city of the gods) is a mindnumbing place.if you stand on the pyramid of the sun and look out over the small part which has been excavated it is not possibe to concieve the people who built the place with its canals , its cover sewage system and piped fresh water.the sheer scale of the place and the level of work involved is almost unbelievable.the city was already long abandoned when the aztecs entered the region and no one can agreee on its age.
both the magnificent quetzal bird and the diamond back rattlesnake are faced with extinction now and are rare.
the translations are full of hidden meanings , most of which are not understood by modern 'scholars' , but then , they weren't meant to be.
what can be understood is awesome enough especialy when you consider that this 'legend' goes back to a time before any cities were built.way over 10,000 years ago.
the histories and prophesies of the indians deal with a whole timeline charting the beginnings of man , right through the different ages of man (this is the fifth and last age) right up to the end of man and a time after that when the earth is at last liberated from darkness and the 'great ones' will once more walk amonst us.
sorry if i got any of that muddled up a bit but it has been over 25 years sinse that so called 'legend' was related to me.
i am obliged to you bro. Ferre , i think its time to dig up some of those old books and notes i have lying in a box somewhere.
RESPECT TO YOU BRO FERRE.
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I appreciate this material also, Ferre.
It's always been a mysterious dream of mine to visit and experience the energy of Teotihuacan.
Thank you.
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the problem I have with prohecys is that they are inherantly wrong 99% of the time.
Maybe we should make our own prophecys, then make sure they come true?
this Quetza dude had nothing on us. He may have had hundreds of followers and a decent understanding of mathmatics, but we have something even more powerfull than that.
computers.
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| AMEN brother! we should definitly use our recources to our advantage! My only question is in what ways could we do that, im going to start a topic in a more appropriate place, this will begin in teh discusions board. |
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oh this is the discusions forum, haha ill put down the  , start a new topic is what i ment |
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