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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:54 am Post subject: The Military is Not Bound by Any Promise or Contract |
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Quote: derexan Future Soldier
Do you know what your talking about?
I have a job reserved for me as military police. It's in the contract.
“Law and regulations that govern military personnel may change without notice to me. Such changes may affect my status, pay, allowances, benefits and responsibilities as a member of the Armed Forces regardless of the provisions of this enlistment/re-enlistment document.”
The contract ensures that the military is not bound by any promise made to you by the recruiter or even by the contract itself.
1. Military enlistments are potentially unlimited in length.
The box below cites “fine print” from the back of the first page of a military enlistment “contract.” It shows that, despite the stated length of enlistment (usually four years), recruits can be kept in the military indefinitely, or called back from the reserves many years later, especially as part of the “war on terror,” which has no foreseeable end. This is what’s been called the “back door draft.” Thousands have already been subjected to it. Recruiters typically neglect to mention these sections to potential enlistees.
10 Points to Consider Before Signing a Military Enlistment Agreement
7. Get all your recruiter's promises in writing, but also remember that the military can change the terms (such as pay, job, or benefits) of your work. Though there are no guarantees, a written statement may offer you (as a service member) some protection if promises are not met. However, the contract is more binding on you than on the military. You are ultimately responsible for information on the form, so don't tell lies, even if pressured.
8. There are no job guarantees in the military. The military is not required to keep you in the job you trained for on a full-time or permanent basis. In fact, most recruiters were involuntarily reassigned to their jobs. Placements are mostly dependent on what the military perceives it needs. Most military jobs are in areas that account for only a small percentage of civilian jobs.
Do You Know Enough to Enlist?
Military recruiters and ads promise:
Job training...money for college.. ..adventure...leadership skills and more...
Before you join, take a good look at what you're getting into.
Here are some things to consider:
* Will enlistment help me achieve my goals?
* Am I trying to escape my own problems?
* Am I willing to give up control?
* Am I willing to kill... and be killed?
* Do I have other options?
* If You Talk with a Recruiter. Don't rely only on the recruiter.
* Take along a relative or friend.
* Never give false information or cover up anything.
* If You Decide to Enlist...
* If you talk with a recruiter, don't rely only on the recruiter.
Military recruiters are salespeople: their job is to "sell" you on enlistment. To keep their jobs and advance their careers, most recruiters must sign up a specific number of people each month. They stress the benefits of the military - not the problems. Your decision about enlistment will affect your life and the lives of others. Don't rush.
* Talk with recently discharged veterans - both those who had good experiences and those who didn't - about the questions raised on this website.
* Talk with a civilian counselor who can help you think about the military or suggest other options.
- Crude Facts about Combat -
I have been talking to my fellow soldiers about this whole situation and I have told them about how the leadership in Washington is trying to get the American people to silence their criticisms of the continued lunacy we call the occupation of Iraq.
No MAS!
Leonard Clark, 860th MP CO
AZ Army National Guard 6-28-5
CITIZEN SOLDIER Recruitment Guide
The Military Enlistment Contract and You: by Tod Ensign
* The Facts * Your Rights
Eight questions about enlistment contracts:
3. Does the military have to keep its promises of job training, assignment, etc.?
If you do not receive the training assignment you were promised, it's often difficult to do anything about it. Some soldiers have gone to federal court, seeking to have their enlistment voided but most judges have refused to become involved.
"The United Republican Chickenhawks."
Deck of Republican Chickenhawks, depicting the 54 Republican officials, congressmen, politicians and pundits who avoided serving their country through connections, deferments, or other excuses...
WHAT FAMILIES NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MILITARY RECRUITING IN HIGH. SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES.
Military Out of Our Schools
The military and its recruiters are present in almost every public high school in the United States. Recruiters are at schools to sell students military enlistment. They use a sales pitch that is riddled with half-truths and deceptions and individual recruiters will resort to outright lies to sign young people up. The recruiting budget for FY2005 is close to $4 billion!!
Recruiting Lies vs. Military Reality
Video: Telling Lies and False Statements
- Where Have All The Young Men Gone?
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Rev. Steve Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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zero Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Ddc, you always have the best posts. _________________ www.shoutwire.com
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"I understand that fear is my friend, but not always. Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed." |
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aeroplane Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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7. Get all your recruiter's promises in writing, but also remember that the military can change the terms (such as pay, job, or benefits) of your work. Though there are no guarantees, a written statement may offer you (as a service member) some protection if promises are not met. However, the contract is more binding on you than on the military. You are ultimately responsible for information on the form, so don't tell lies, even if pressured.
8. There are no job guarantees in the military. The military is not required to keep you in the job you trained for on a full-time or permanent basis. In fact, most recruiters were involuntarily reassigned to their jobs. Placements are mostly dependent on what the military perceives it needs. Most military jobs are in areas that account for only a small percentage of civilian jobs.
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Man, it's been nearly 20 years since I signed that contract right out of high school because I wanted a chance at a college education. They haven't changed the wording one bit. It brings back chills as I remember wondering if Reagan was mentally stable and Big Bush trust worthy enough to be given with that much power over my life.
I really feel for these guys who are paying the price for Lil Bush not being responsible enough for their lives. They don't want to be there fighting a war of lies. Where is the honor in that? _________________ "Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."
US President Jimmy Carter |
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