The line in the sand

Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=28
To all authorities who have ears to hear. Do not cross this line! There is a point beyond which men of conscience cannot be pushed. This is that point.

**Ferre** · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:

This is INSANE!! Surprised

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Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

I signed the pettition and added the comment below. BTW, I have never thought that America was so great that another nation was second to us. All countries are G-d's countries, but I think you all know the kind of people we are dealing with. If my comments on the abortion issue offend anybody that was not my intent, but please remember, most of these politicians are of the Christian right and abortion is an issue that hits them in a tender spot. My letter was intended to gain maximum effect. If anybody chooses abortion, it is there choice. As I said the comment was intended to hit them below the belt, not to offend anyone on the forum.
I live in Florida and my congressman is Mark Foley

Dear Mr Foley: Please sir, this is nothing short of communism. for the sake of the American people and the sacred freedoms of our republic, freedoms our fathers, brothers and sisters have died to protect, don't go there. You cannot legislate morality by eliminating what some consider the undesirables. This is after all an unreasonable and paranoid approach to an artificial problem. One which was invented solely by our government. The world can no longer bear Americas war on cannabis. Please, stop standing between God and the people. The Lord will not forgive you on judgement day for the wanton destruction of our fellows for the crime of accepting God's gifts. Cannabis was made by God in his devine wisdom. It is so unthinkable that God's country has turned against God's sacred gifts. Remember, it was the US government that allowed the abortion holocaust to gain legality. This is not a matter of government opinion. The federal government has taken authority not intended by the constitution and become drunk with it. One day you will loose the war on cannabis, do you want to be remembered like Benedict Arnold? History will not be kind to the cannabis warriors. You all will be hated and despised and your future families will be ashamed to have your blood in their veins. Stop worrying about your career, you have made your mark and at this point will be remembered with honor. Please sir, start worrying about the people this bill will destroy. This is the kind of bill that may be construed by some as a line in the sand. The people will not comply with this tyrrany and it will only bring about revolution. Is that what you want? Do you and your fellow leaders hate the American people so much that you are willing to go this far to sepearte us from the gifts of God? I will never be seperated from them, never. May the Lord bless you with the wisdom and the vision to see danger that approaches and give you the courage to stand up for those you are charged with protecting.

zero · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:46 am Post subject:

Ive never been, nor will I ever be for any reason or under any threat, a snitch.

Where im from, people like that have very, very short lifespans.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject:

**Torkel** · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:

I signed the petition & sent additional comments of my own, too.

Fuck the powers that be.

Peace,
Torkel
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject:

So did I...
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

Me too.

**aeroplane** · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:24 am Post subject:

I've tried scan-reading the bill HR 1528, but I have not found anything that even remotely reads like the Downsize DC site. Can anyone tell me where I can find the part of the bill that Downsize is talking about?
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:55 am Post subject:

However, I would like to point out some of the strange draconian language for those convicted of the crime of "distribution of a controlled substance to anyone under the age of 21" (this could include giving wine to anyone under 21 as part of communion or Thanksgiving) the punishment is "not to be less than 10 years imprisonment".

There is a provision that allows for "a mandatory term of life imprisonment" near the bottom of page 3.

Here's a link to the actual bill if anyone is interested in reading it.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:h1528ih.txt.pdf

I wonder if aspirin falls under the catagory of controlled substance...
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:11 am Post subject:

One quick amendment to my 2 previous posts. I have found one reference to the spying on friends and family beginning on page 12 line 18. On page 13 the penalty for not being a snitch is spelled out as a sentence of not less than 2 years imprisonment.
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zero · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:

Ill take my two years if I have to.

they can fuck off.
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:49 am Post subject:

Yeah, I'd like to believe in the good of people, that they wouldn't turn yellow and snitch, but then I remember Ruby Ridge and Waco. Which of their friends and neighbors came to help when the Feds and their army acted against the Constitution by launching a domestic armed assault?

Cold fact is that no one stood up, but many stood by and watched. And I guarantee that someone snitched.

I could imagine that most people would fold if the right pressure was applied. It would become, "Take him, not me!" That's how the Nazi's did it and we have been seeing this thing unfold in America for over a decade.
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zero · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:56 am Post subject:

Ide rather be dead than snitch.

Snitches arent even human, they are pond scum.
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Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

Aeroplane wrote