The Green Collar Worker

[prntrkmt]

[prntrkmt]

[The GCW]

Prntrkmt,

Good questions.


1. What about those who are not Christians? Who belong to a religion many thousands of years older than Christianity?

Jesus Christ died for Our sins. Not just for people who accept it or believe it. He owns Us. We belong to Him.


2. And what exactly defines an "obedient Christian"?

The Christ told Us to love one another. Do that and You have obeyed the Ten Commandments. So, if You “love one another,”, then You are obedient. Do not love one another and You are not obedient.


3. The Christian Bible makes very clear that Christians are required to burn all books from my religion and to immediately murder all members of my religion.

Does that mean that every Christian who doesn't try to murder me is a "disobedient Christian"?

The Christian Bible says many things in the Old Testament. Jesus Christ came with shall We say updates. Current messages. He taught Us to love one another. Heathen practices are old and null and void with the teachings of Christ. You can not love one another and kill people at the same time. People that say they are Christian and yet condone or enable or support killing / murder are exposed according to the Christ.

So what kind of people accept the Old Testament and not the New? They are generally killers and murderers. No?

It is convenient to not believe in the Christ if You take the fork in the path that leads to sin that leads to death.

Does Your religion teach, condone or teach to support to kill or murder? If not then You are very close to being an obedient Christian with out even believing in the Christ. You only have one more step to take.

By the way, obeying Christ rewards Us with the Spirit of Truth; the new teacher; the additional helper. I testify it is real and good.

Finally, I wish for You to know that I Am answering Your questions. I Am not initiating this dialog with You; I Am posting what comes to Me through the spirit of truth for those interested. You have nothing to fear in Me. I Am. I Am love. I Am here for You for good.

The way people Who’ve claimed to be Christians have walked it is understandable that people are sick of Christians and fear them. But keep in mind those feelings are do to the example of murderers who say they are Christians and now You know which kind they are. They are disobedient. Don’t choose to rebel Christianity by the actions of the disobedient; choose Christianity based on the actions of the obedient.

PS.


4. We're on a mission from God?


Isn’t that a John Belushi / Dan Akeroid line (sp)? It just sounds good… A Am not, “frightening people.”


The Green Collar Worker

[RevErikM]

GCW - Did Christ walk up to you and tell you who he was, or did some dude sit you down to share 'inspirational' pieces with you out of a book?

Did you feel overwhelmed emotionally when you heard what the dude with the book had to say and show you?

Did you feel like you'd been doing things all wrong up until that point when you were "shown the light" about Christ?

Did you feel like a more decent person after you cried and confessed what a miserable person you were, and begged to be forgiven?

Those are the 4 steps to christian conversion from the start - and if those don't work, the converter is urged to brow-beat their target audience to do their best to make them feel miserable, then go to the point of threatening them with damnation if they don't comply. Any time I see someone doing conversion, that's what I see, up above. I see someone acting not out of their own personal experiences with a god/gods/christ/whatever, but I see them acting because they felt miserable and someone propped up a deity for them who basically says "you're crap but I love you just the same." And it's false - while there are some people who are genuinely lying to you so you feel better, OR they still actually believe it, the vast, vast majority want to profit off of your confusion.

And yes, it is confusion. If you think you stink, but someone comes along and tells you, "yes, you stink, but it's ok," and you get happy enough to not worry about stinking, then you still think that you stink!!! The same thing goes with christianity and begging forgiveness from any god. Getting forgiven doesn't mean that you have come to terms with yourself - what it does is it puts you in an emotionally dependent state. You depend on the "forgiveness" of the god for your self-esteem and emotional health. Since you didn't figure out "the christ" on your own in the first place, you're going to keep going to other people and books and try to get THEM to tell you if you're "ok with god" because you're not "ok with yourself." Moral of the story is, if you think you stink, take a freakin' bath - don't ask a god to "cleanse" you.

And, it's not only Christians that do this garbage. I've even seen Wiccans do it, and I was horrified. They went around the room asking forgiveness from their goddess - just like I've seen in Xtian circles. That kind of BS is NOT religion. It's a form of slavery and addiction set up solely to bind you to the people who disperse the religion.
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[RevErikM]

GCW - Did Christ walk up to you and tell you who he was, or did some dude sit you down to share 'inspirational' pieces with you out of a book?

Did you feel overwhelmed emotionally when you heard what the dude with the book had to say and show you?

Did you feel like you'd been doing things all wrong up until that point when you were "shown the light" about Christ?

Did you feel like a more decent person after you cried and confessed what a miserable person you were, and begged to be forgiven?

Those are the 4 steps to christian conversion from the start - and if those don't work, the converter is urged to brow-beat their target audience to do their best to make them feel miserable, then go to the point of threatening them with damnation if they don't comply. Any time I see someone doing conversion, that's what I see, up above. I see someone acting not out of their own personal experiences with a god/gods/christ/whatever, but I see them acting because they felt miserable and someone propped up a deity for them who basically says "you're crap but I love you just the same." And it's false - while there are some people who are genuinely lying to you so you feel better, OR they still actually believe it, the vast, vast majority want to profit off of your confusion.

And yes, it is confusion. If you think you stink, but someone comes along and tells you, "yes, you stink, but it's ok," and you get happy enough to not worry about stinking, then you still think that you stink!!! The same thing goes with christianity and begging forgiveness from any god. Getting forgiven doesn't mean that you have come to terms with yourself - what it does is it puts you in an emotionally dependent state. You depend on the "forgiveness" of the god for your self-esteem and emotional health. Since you didn't figure out "the christ" on your own in the first place, you're going to keep going to other people and books and try to get THEM to tell you if you're "ok with god" because you're not "ok with yourself." Moral of the story is, if you think you stink, take a freakin' bath - don't ask a god to "cleanse" you.

And, it's not only Christians that do this garbage. I've even seen Wiccans do it, and I was horrified. They went around the room asking forgiveness from their goddess - just like I've seen in Xtian circles. That kind of BS is NOT religion. It's a form of slavery and addiction set up solely to bind you to the people who disperse the religion.
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[Mystic Power]

[Mystic Power]

[prntrkmt]

[viper]

[viper]

[The GCW]

RevErikM,

Begged?

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prntrkmt,

The Christ (the Ecologician) does not “advocates human slavery” or caging humans for using cannabis (kaneh bosm).

Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, is My guide / The Master, does not “advocates human slavery” or cannabis prohibition.

Disobedient Christians do.

People that follow Christ and obey Him; to love one another, do not “advocate human slavery” or “human sacrifice.”

*prntrkmt, You quoted,”While you may find deep religious meaning in your religious myths about human sacrifice, it is rude to try to impose your religious beliefs on others.”

Prntrkmt You seem to be attempting to twist words and meanings in a way to rationalize discounting what You are uncomfortable with.

Prntrkmt, try to comprehend this. I don’t not teach or condone human sacrifice but I think I understand the unhealthy logic You use to come to that conclusion.

Perhaps if I came to a room labeled, prntrkmt, and wrote what I think, You might have reason to say what You have. -( it is rude to impose your religious beliefs on others.”) However, You have come into a room labeled, The Green Collar Worker. You see what I have to say. Perhaps You could be comfortable not telling Me what to say in My room. Perhaps You don’t want to come back. But now You have the “religious beliefs” that My knowledge is “religious myths about human sacrifice…” I ask, Who is, “impose(ing) religious beliefs on others”””??? Perhaps You wish to control what other people say… It sounds like You are imposing Your religious beliefs on Me in My room. No?



Why come back and tell Me not to say what I want in My room?

*Torah? Sorry.

*Prntrkmt’s comments: *“the requirement to burn the books of my religion and praise for the murder of members of my religion is in your "new" testament.” … “Christianity has been responsible for more murders than any other religion. … “

Prntrkmt, You don’t seem to get it. The Christ doesn’t teach to do those things; but disobedient Christians do. The murder of members of Your religion isn’t the way the Christ walks; it’s the way of disobedient people everywhere including disobedient Christians. Try hard to understand that concept. The Christ clearly teaches to love one another, not harm, kill or murder, one another. Do You understand Yet? Love one another. Love one another. Love one another.

Think about it. If Torah believers are willing to kill and murder (and then rationalize other things not of love) and disobedient Christians are willing to kill and murder (and then rationalize other unloving things) each other what do You have? Now on the other hand if there were 2 or millions of groups of people that follow Christ’s (OR ANYONE ELSES) request to love one another, that are not willing to kill each other, what do You have?

Christianity is not the Christ.

Christianity INCLUDES DISOBEDIENT CHRIST FOLLOWERS including rapists, murderers, killers, warmongers, and all kinds of evil evil types of controlling miserable people.

If You want to love one another, don’t follow a killer’s example to achieve Your goal even if He says He loves one another.

Controlling types of people (those who wish to control others) may also be exposed here by coming to this room labeled The Green Collar Worker and trying to control My mind. Are You starting to get it? Don’t do to Me what You don’t like other people doing.

prntrkmt,

Do You rationalize killing and murdering?

Do Torah believers rationalize killing and murdering?


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Viper,

If You don’t come back, I will be “out of town.”

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Before anyone else gets upset. Realize I Am not condoning burning books, human slavery human sacrifice, killing or murdering, caging humans for using cannabis or raping etc. etc.

I Am condoning to love one another. I and The Christ together. We condone loving one another.

Find someone who condones burning books, slavery, sacrifice, murdering, killing, raping etc. and You have found someone who does not follow what the Master & I teach.

I can take You to the next town into a “Bible” teaching church building where they teach to support the war in Iraq and capitol punishment etc. from the pulpit and they do it in the name of Jesus Christ / Christianity, BUT, THEY ARE NOT OBEDIENTLY FOLLOWING THE CHRIST. Those are disobedient Christians responsible for much of the hell on earth that creates the examples of why so many people shun the Christ.

I understand why people are upset with disobedient Christians and don’t want to follow them and I’m not asking anyone to follow them.

I Am asking to follow the teachings of the Prince of Peace; Jesus Christ which is to love one another.

The Christ doesn’t teach in the Christian church; the Christ teaches by way of the “spirit of truth.”

Love one another.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

Ah. Maybe because it gets in the way of a person’s murder fest.

And maybe a murderer thinks if the Christ isn’t real then they can rationalize murder because there is no God telling them not to.

Christ God Our Father is very real and very clearly says to love one another.

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People that rationalize murdering for one reason don’t like murderers that rationalize murdering people for a different reason. Yet they are all the same; murderers.

But people that rationalize loving one another for one reason love other people that love one another for a different reason.

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By the way, rather than ask Me. Go to the spirit of truth and ask Him for Yourself personally.


Kindly and with love,

The Green Collar Worker

[viper]

I couldn't be arsed reading through all the crap you just posted.

I'm not interested.

You don't seem to realize, I'm going nowhere. Roger learned that the hard way.

Like most of your kind, you continue obliviously with your 'one and only' view of the world.

For the last time; either modify your attitude and adjust your posting, or leave.

This is your last Official Warning.

Take it over to www.thc-ministry.org . Like I said, you'll feel at home there.

Go with good wishes.
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[viper]

I couldn't be arsed reading through all the crap you just posted.

I'm not interested.

You don't seem to realize, I'm going nowhere. Roger learned that the hard way.

Like most of your kind, you continue obliviously with your 'one and only' view of the world.

For the last time; either modify your attitude and adjust your posting, or leave.

This is your last Official Warning.

Take it over to www.thc-ministry.org . Like I said, you'll feel at home there.

Go with good wishes.
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[reverendquenzer]

ok how about a nother subject that needs to just end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GCW give it up none of these people want to hear your gods way.. this is not a site to convince others to follow your way this is a site to cooperate in fighting tyranical prohibition of our sacrament. I know you are just trying to show how the ones who claim to be christian but prohibit cannabis are truely being antichrist but trying to convince non christians of your christ is just rude and ignorant many here do not believe your myth is truth so leave them alone n let them believe what they want to. THIS discussion needs to be over.
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Reverend Danny

[The GCW]

Reverend Danny,

I understand Your request and it is polite enough but consider some….

I’m not going to other places here at the THC Ministry and attempting to convert people in any way… right? I Am here pretty much only at this place labeled The Green Collar Worker and even here, I Am not trying to convert anyone. (I don’t think) What I Am doing is writing what I know and believe. If people come to this thread and think I Am speaking of a myth, let them decide to give Me hell, be rude or go away mad or just go away. If You know from experience what this thread is about and You don’t like it, You have all kinds of options of how to carry Yourself. Asking Me to in essence to shut up is not right though. When Buddhist, Atheists, agnostics, etc. or other religious thinking people have opinions or wish to say the way it is in their mind and experience, We should not ask them to shut up either.

If I was going to other threads here at THC Ministry and flame baiting other people or badgering or being rude I would understand anyone asking Me to stop doing that.

Reverend Ferre, a while back noticed what I was doing at another forum for a while and invited Me to come here and post. I know Reverend Ferre, who is a moderator and administrator here, doesn’t agree with My thinking or beliefs but notice that He hasn’t reprimanded Me for speaking My mind here at this one thread. There is room to be tolerant of what I Am doing at The Green Collar Worker. What I Am doing is one facet of what everyone else here is doing.



My topic here, The Green Collar Worker serves a very important purpose. Consider how many Christians have read portions of this thread that have gone away questioning their support to persecute, prohibit and exterminate cannabis and then stop doing such nonsense. One big reason cannabis is prohibited and persecuted is because of Christianity. It’s important for Christians to come out and help put an end to that error, and this is what it looks like. I believe in Christianity and it gives credibility to Christians if they identify with Me and see the light from a Christian. Otherwise, I’d just be another non-believer giving Christians hell and they would not begin to pay attention because I would have no credibility.

The question then is; does this thread help? Has it changed the way people view cannabis prohibition? I think it does what it’s supposed to do.

Notice that this thread has had over 37,000 views by the way. Someone is paying attention. Imagine Christian churches who’ve read right here that cannabis prohibition is in fact Biblically referred to as the “Sin of the Priests” (see Malachi 1:6-14 NASB), and You can imagine how many churches that wish to obey open their eyes wide and start to question their walk.

I Am saying what needs to be said regarding Christianity and cannabis / the tree of life.

Please Reverend Danny, Don’t shut Me up.

The Green Collar Worker

[Rev. Steven Wilson]

Well I am personally repelled by your evangelizing. You stated your point now drop it!
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[Ferre]

Guys, if I may add my opinion; Brother The GCW is indeed invited by me.

Brother The GCW is spot on here:

[Ferre]

Guys, if I may add my opinion; Brother The GCW is indeed invited by me.

Brother The GCW is spot on here:

[viper]

O.K., fair enough.
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[viper]

O.K., fair enough.
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[Grannymouse]

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/EssentialOriginsOfZoroastrianismFull.pdf

is a long read and not easy reading, but has many references to the tree of life (Vane-zavit-bish)

care must be taken not to read it too literally, as i'm sure that the translation into english loses some meaning.



http://www.theosophical.ca/LegendOfTheFishNDK.html has info about the guardians of the TREE, the Kar-fish.
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