The Christianising of Europe

zero · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:

Damn. Those tortures are harsh.
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:04 am Post subject:

Pretty ugly.....
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This help expose the need to further label Christians.

There are 2 kinds.

Obedient Christians

&

Disobedient Christians.

Guess which kind condones, supports and partakes in torture?

Shamash · regular contributor Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

The people who participated in the Crusades weren't followers of Jesus.

They were followers of the Pope and his religion. His religion wasn't based
on the Bible or the teachings of Jesus, but were based on greed, lust for
power, and a desire to expand his empire to include Jerusalem.

The real believers in the teachings of Christ were burned at the stake,
or drawn and quartered for their commitment to their beliefs. The real
believers exposed the evils of the Roman Institution and later in the
Reformation would label the Pope and his religion as the anti-christ.

There are many today who carry the name tag of "Christian" because
it is a socially accepted belief. Besides it's nice to be nice and who knows
you might make a few connections that are good for business.

Karl Marx's father (they were Jews) moved from a Jewish neighborhood
to a Lutheran neighborhood and joined a Lutheran church because it
was good for business. In other words, he betrayed his faith for the
love of money. As a result, Karl Marx rejected all religion because of
his father's example. Later he would say that "religion is the opiate of
the people."

Hmm...Quite an appropriate quote for this forum.
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zero · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:

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Shamash & Zero, Thank You.

Philippians 3:18, “For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,”

Cain was “exiled by God.” quoted from the Layman’s Bible Dictionary. (3rd page of the Bible) Murder caused exile. If God can exile Cain, what can He and will He do to the Cain’s of today? Then, there was one; now there are many. Ahhh. They are still in exile; that is an extension of the deluding influence. Murderers are in exile and are detached from the direction which has been requested they take!!! So, as a prime example; Bush is His own man, detached and exiled from God, and that’s the reason it is so clear to those who can see that He can not see. Cain was exiled by Christ God Our Father.

For fear of being exiled by Christ God Our Father, do not murder or support, condone or accept it in any way. !!!!!!!!!!!!

Cains are still exiled!

Philippians 4:15, “no church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving…” = no church offered kaneh bosm.

And don’t miss the message in Phil. 4:18… subtitled “God’s Provisions”

And yes Zero, they are still here.

Caesars as powerful as ever.

It is just as told.

Your ex wife, the disobedient Christian, will drive You toward being an obedient Christian. (I read You post about the children’s cannabis book…)

If the sign of the beast is 666; the sign of truth is 420.

Truth eats.

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**aeroplane** · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:

This history of torture is one of the many reasons I refuse to be affiliated with any religion. What is religion anyway? Why do we need it when animals, plants and spirits don't?

I believe an enlightened mind does not need the governance of a higher power over them, for the enlightened believe that power comes from within.
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:

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Oh well, Heck with it. This is how we act in real life:

"I see diplomacy isn't working to get what I want so now we get down
to the bear bones."

"It's like this: What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine if I am
big enough to take it."

"If you try to stop me, I will have to use force. Of course, I will
manipulate the media so it looks like it's all your fault for not giving
me what I wanted in the first place."

" 'Why did you make me kill you,' I'll say. You could've avoided all this
conflict if you had just done as I wished. Now all your dead citizens are
your fault."

"They just didn't understand I was trying to prevent them from hurting
themselves. It was in their best interest that I take over their country.
They should be thankful."

"Oh, the ungrateful wretches. It is a good thing I am so kind and
patient."
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to political prosperity, Religion and morality
are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of
Patriotism who should labor to subvert these
great Pilliars of human happiness."

George Washington (Farewell Address,
19 September 1796)

**aeroplane** · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:30 am Post subject:

Abu Grab, Guantanamo, Afghanistan... it would appear that we are treading thin ice. One slip and we could plunge back into the icy waters of barbarism.
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:17 am Post subject:

I'd call Abu, Afghan, and Guantanamo the banana peel then. We have long since slipped to a barbaric level. The moment someone within the US gov't decided to blow those two towers to shit on 9-11-01. What more barbaric move could anyone make against thier OWN citizens? Oh yeah, add the Super Dome in NO to that list also. Heck, add that whole city....talk about barbarism allready!
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