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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Someone hacked into Rogers site!!!!! Reply with quote

Hey, I don't know if this is the place to put his or not,but I wanted to alert everyone in case it isn't known yet. I just tried to get on Rogers site and it says "this website got owned" whatever the heck that means, it goes on to make rude comments about Roger, the movement, and it has a link to some strange page which I haven 't touched because I don't know if that is a good idea. Someone really needs to do something about this seriously, it isn't good, I hope Roger or Ferre knows what is going on?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2644
Were working on it sis. As soon as Ferre removes the message they redo it. Ty.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: The hacker just called me and apologized!!! Reply with quote

Hello all,

Aloha. I just received a call from Mark McKinney and his son, Teran ('the hacker'). They apologized to me on a speaker phone with the whole family present. I accepted his apology and offered my forgiveness to them.

Apparently Teran is 12 years old (sounds like 40). He is the son of a Christian missionary family who live in Kona on the other side of this island. They are part of the University of the Nations and Youth With A Mission, Christian outreach. How interesting.

I believe that Teran did the hacking without his father's knowledge or permission, just as Ferre thought happened. The Dad sounded truly repentant and sorry for the actions of his son. The son sounded like a 12 year old who got caught.

Mark, the father, asked me what they could do to make up for the harm caused and I told him that making amends would include repairing the damage and writing an apology on the net. Teran could also help Ferre to show us how we were vulnerable to start with.

One of the beautiful things about this experience is that they gave me (and you) the opportunity to forgive them (or not). I have chosen to forgive and extend the blessing of love to their family. It is an especially sweet situation because the McKinney family are 'Christians' who teach Chrisitanity. Don't you love it?

More on this later.

All the best to you,

Roger
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully thay will get it throu thear kids head that what he did was wrong and that harmign othersin the name of GOD was wrong too.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is indeed good news brother and I am glad to hear Mark McKinney and family took the responcability to make it right. I also can not hold a crutch towards people who have a problem child and I gues the kid's mind has not been developed enough to understand the impact and the real damage from such actions. Me too I choose for forgiveness and I also believe children learn from their mistakes (if guided well).

Teran does have talent and he even is a creative writer, let's hope he changes his attitude a little now.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad I have got to work at it Its just not coming forthwith at the moment. Is everything really GONE Question
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry Lilli. There was a backup for the site and the hosting company will put that in place real soon, I expected it to be done already to be honest.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I too find it ironic that people with a "Christian" missionary site that asks for a prayer for pain relief are responsible for hacking and hating a site that believes in the use of a God given sacrament and anointing oil that heals and relieves pain.

I think I recall that this kid is home schooled? Where do you think he heard the BS he was spouting? I am not so quick to believe he thought this up out of the blue all by himself, although I was of course not present for that phone conversation.

What a shame that these "Christian missionary" folks forgot to teach their child Bible verse such as Genesis 1:29, the formula for the anointing oil in Exodus which Christ (the anointed one) used to heal and anoint people.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I recall that this kid is home schooled? Where do you think he heard the BS he was spouting?


I knew they would turn up the sugar when Roger called. That was blatant (charachter assasination) defimation of charachter and slander. Not to mention a felony. I am here to tell you all that got me thru the last 10 days was my abilaty to pray and commune here with my brothers and sisters. I too am not convinced it was hatched up by just the boys. Home schooling says alot. He got it from the breakfast table in his own home.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps someone should suggest to the kid and his father that the kid could make some spare coin by offering his services to determine weaknesses and ways to combat them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF YOUR SUGGESTING THAT ROGER PAY THEM TO TELL HIM HOW THEY DID IT NO i THINK THAT IS WRONG. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO THAT FOR FOR THIS MINISTRY AND IF ANYONE SHOULD PAY ANYONE THEY SHOULD PAY ROGER and FERRE WHO BATTLED THEM MINUTE BY MINUTE FOR 5 HOURS. AND ALL THE HOURS IT WILL TAKE TO SET THINGS RIGHT.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow a 12 year old...

and I was thinking terrorist

Christian Haxor ???

They are teaching him to attack other ministry groups that differ from his own, at a very young age.

Too bad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilli wrote:
IF YOUR SUGGESTING THAT ROGER PAY THEM TO TELL HIM HOW THEY DID IT NO i THINK THAT IS WRONG. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO THAT FOR FOR THIS MINISTRY AND IF ANYONE SHOULD PAY ANYONE THEY SHOULD PAY ROGER and FERRE WHO BATTLED THEM MINUTE BY MINUTE FOR 5 HOURS. AND ALL THE HOURS IT WILL TAKE TO SET THINGS RIGHT.


No, not suggesting in any way that Roger pay the kid for anything.

I was merely suggesting that it occurred to me that the father has an opportunity to teach this kid abut good. Ferre indicated the kid is talented in his pursuits, and stated the kid would provide information indicating Roger's site's security gaps.

My thought was that if the kid has this type of talent, he has an opportunity to use it to help webmasters secure their sites.

If the father just tells the kid, "okay, no more computer", it most likely wont stick. And if it does, the potential talent of the kid would be wasted.
I'm suggesting an alternative that allows the kid to excersize his talent by helping companies stop hackers. This is actually a somewhat lucrative career.

On a different note, would there be any harm in those who were harmed or inconvenienced by this action to send the kid and his dad e-mails detailing how they were affected? If they get enough of them, they might get the picture.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I understand you now. And yes I think that would be a great idea.But we shall wait for Rogers answer on this.
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