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David · Bard Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1261

There is this wonderful site that can help you. Its called TLC ministry ask for pastor Lilli, lovely lady, tell her all about Jesus, she loves it.

stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

By the way, if one can no longer speak up freely, another proof of fascsism is a fact. I refuse to go along. Who they think they are? Commiting genocide on native people, build a country of double over the top greediness, put the whole creation on stake, and call it freedom ....... ? And I have to bow for that, come on ....... be a human with feelilngs. Enjoy a frog that makes sound, bless the brids and go down evil, burn down babylon, knowing how easy it is for a camel to go thru the eye of needle, than for wickedness to enter the KINGDOM of GOD.
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stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

If Lili is a pastor, she better tell me about Jesus, I think Laughing

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David · Bard Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1261

Oh she can copy and paste for hours!

Grannymouse · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 128

...and why do i think it amusing that David would be playing the 'Devil's Advocate' here? Well, as long as it hurts no one!

Stef, I really do think that you would perfer Lilli's site. Many people here have been treated badly by Christians in the name of Christ. They want a place to heal and live without the constant barbs and 'conversion tactics' from Xians.
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stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

It is a good thing to look for healing. However, one should know the value of words. For instance the work of dr. Emoto is an important milestone. and good example. But many more people descriped somehow how words reveal you, and influence your daily life. So .... in my opinion healing does not start with an attempt to shock people, or seek for attention with so called hard words. Healing start with a attitude to be healed. Words like love, health, healing, likeness, etc. contain power beyond imagine. To be honest, also me can tell.
A short analysis of the content this's showed a chronic lack on positiveness, one tend to dwell in their own self declared normal freakyness, and suggest you can earn respect or status with it. I think this is no place for healing, it is a place for sick people though. One of the dangers of marihuana is that one can start to suffer from changes in the personality, and even can loose the grip on reality. I can tell, since I live in a surroundings where there is no question about wether somebody uses this or not, and in what frequency and quantity. In Holland one can see both very positive sides of marihuana use, and very negative sides.
So ... if people seek healing, marihuana can help. This is a powerful substance though, and one needs to be strong. Both physical and mental.
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stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

And second, there is a large gap between what I see on the idiot box what is going on in the states, what they call christianity, and how I experience this here in my country. The over the top exposure of over the top hystirical shouting, no exception on it ... every time I am shocked to see this it comes from the states. Hysterical and over the top, well .... isn't this a general characteristic of American culture?

Christianity, Moslims, Budists, whatever, it is the love and humbleness that will save them. No shouting for cash in a very luxurious building, and call it a service, do belong to humbleness.
I think you people have a bit of a strange view on what christianity might be. Since most of you living in the US, this does not appear strange to me, at all.
Do not misunderstand me, I know what the catholic church did. I know about the abuse of kids by pastors, etc.. I know something about what is going on inside all those families that are on the outside try to keep up the apperiences, while inside they fuck with knives and forks.
However, even within the catholic church I met people that bounce of so much love, one can almost touch it.

People might be hurted by christians, but no way in the name of Christ. That is a blasphemy for every righteous person on the world, christian or not.
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Grannymouse · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 128

Someone make it stop.
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malloryjade · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:

Yeah I'm feeling you Granny mouse. This guy just came to start trouble. Glad to see you here. Hi David!
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

First....what the hell are you doing here talking about negative aspects of cannabis?

You're not going to find many followers on that statement.

Second....what the hell are you doing preaching about Jesus?

You're not going to find any followers on that either.

Our kind here have been persecuted DIRECTLY in the name of Christ for thousands of years.

Some of us are sick of it, and sick of hearing of Jesus who didn't exist and his make believe father the vengeful, angry deity.

Jesus is NOT historical fact, and the christian god is not a reality.

It's funny christians talk so much of blasphemy. I have a new word for them to ponder.

Hypocrisy.
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-James Madison

Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

You know what is so typical about average Americans is that if you choose a side in life, it is that side or death. As if I do not know what is done in the name of christianity. But, you mix up the game of power with the love that Jesus came to preach. You are not sick of God's love, you are sick of what is done with it. But, somehow, it seems that nuances can not enter your brain:
You are a commy or not;
You are with the terrorists or with us;
You are a winner or a looser;
You are wearing a white head, or a black head.

Man, your reactions are so typcial, and from my point of perspective very cultural determined. You should think of a parachute, it works much better when it is opened. That is the same with the brain.

If you really think that there are no dangers of the use of marihuana, well... compare it with water. It can kill and it is the source of life.
I saw ill people changing their quality of life within seconds, after smoking herbs from a secret garden. I saw people here doing nothing more then sitting around in that stupid coffeeshop, and suck on that Verdamper, like a 50 grams a week, with brown teeth and much under weight, coughing constantly.

So .... what are you talking about man? Every advantage has a disadvantage, that's a fact of life.
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stefvanwijk · regular contributor Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 38

Maybe this is very Dutch, or stronger, related to values within my family. Not the side your on is important, the truth. Not what you have is important, the source of life is. Not your opinion is the truth, but compassion can reveal it.
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject:

No, you're not getting it.

Jesus didn't come to preach.

What game of power are you talking about? I haven't mixed anything up. Jesus never came, there's nothing to mix up.

I am sick of everything to do with god, god's love, jesus, the bible, the koran, and everything that is done in the name of it. INCLUDING EVANGELISM.

Those skinny people with brown teeth need a tooth brush and a some food. That isn't cannabis' fault. Cannabis makes you hungry. Who knows their deal.

What's this about parachutes? At least I have a parachute. Blind faith is jumping without a chute at all and praying for a soft landing.
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“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”

-James Madison

Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

jessica · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:10 am Post subject:

OK, Mr. Stefvanwijk, I have heard enough of your tired old boring ramblings. We Americans were made up from your Dutch, British, German, Scottish, Irish, and mostly European peoples and beliefs. If you don't like us, well that is a DIRECT reflection of your peoples influence. Nobody here cusses out the Dutch for what they did to South Africa, hmmmm?(And yes I liived there for over 2 years ) You speak only of present cases and show your ignorance by not reflecting on historical facts. Not to long ago during the second world war we were not called "Facist", sure we were late in getting into the running, (Yes I know the UK helped first) but I wonder according to you we have done nothing good, ever. The US is made up of more people with different beliefs, just because a few of the powerful have been totalAssholes to the rest of the world does not reflect the common American. Most Americans would most assuradly stop to help anyone they saw in need, we are not all bad. The greatest thing about my country is we CAN change and we do change every generation we change, hell give us a break, less than 50 years ago we still lynched Black people, but now no one would get away with that horror. Evil or Very Mad

Secondly, some of us never had the option of going to collage, I had three choices when I graduated Highschool, I could be on Welfare, Jail, or join the Military. I joined the Navy and never looked back. I had 3 hot meals and a place to stay, jail with more freedoms we look at it like Indentured Servatude. I am not a Terrorist, I have been jailed for assault, and I am a mean little Bitch. Cannabis makes be want to be a better person, if it wasn't I would have beat the shit out of some Dutchy's while I was in Amsterdam, You all think bashing the current bad guy is cool? Well hell give us a few more hundred years before you can claim we have done more than your European counterparts. In the words of Lincoln," The whole world thinks your an idiot, don't prove them right by opening your mouth."

Anyone who reads my posts knows I am most diplomatic but I am not stoned, have not been stoned in MONTHS, and this shit is just getting stupid. Evil or Very Mad

Sorry for any misspelling I typed this in a hurry, because I am sick of this shit, maybe I should have tasted a little Dutch blood while I was there, I wonder if it is a sweet as American's. Evil or Very Mad

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malloryjade · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:56 am Post subject:

Well Jessica thats one thing we agree on. This guy is a pain and his origional intent was to provoke trouble namely with me.
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