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 Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: Rumsfeld concerned about Venezuelan arms purchase |
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Rumsfeld concerned about Venezuelan arms purchase from Russia!
LOL!! What business is this of Rumsfeld?  Like he's planning on attacking
Venezuela! Hahaha!
If he's so concerned of light weapons ending up with terrorists, maybe he should talk to Republicans about resisting the U.N. treaty on banning their illegal sales. It's exactly it's purpose. - To ensure
that criminals won't be able to trade and buy weapons such as this. - So why is US so hard on resisting it? - Because they are the biggest
sellers and exporters of illegal weapons such as these on the black
markets. - Can't be good for business if competitors start selling the
equivalent products to big buyers. - Same reason why they want to block EU selling weapons to China, so they can do it themselves via Israel, like they've done it before.
- C.B.
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http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050323193307.o0nz36l5.html
Rumsfeld concerned about Venezuelan arms purchase from Russia
BRASILIA (AFP) Mar 23, 2005
US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, on a visit here Wednesday, expressed concern about Venezuela's decision to buy 100,000 AK-47 rifles from
Russia.
"Certainly, I'm concerned. I can't imagine what's going to happen to 100,000 AK-47s. I can't imagine why Venezuela needs 100,000 AK-47s, and I just personally hope that it doesn't happen," he said after meeting with Brazil's vice president and minister of defense, Jose Alencar.
"And I can't imagine if it did happen that it would be good for the hemisphere," Rumsfeld added, noting US concerns that rebels from the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), or other illegal armed groups in the region might get hold of some of the weapons.
According to a senior Pentagon official, "it may be a lot more than a 100,000 ... up to 300,000."
The official said Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's army "only has 32,000 men, the national guard 30,000. Those two forces are already well armed."
"It's a vast oversupply," the official said privately.
"Our first concern is accountability. They could end up easily in the
hands
of terrorists (and) internally, what he (Chavez) is trying to do is try to create Cuban-style popular militias."
After his talks with Alencar, Rumsfeld met with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. He was then scheduled to fly to Manaus, in the
Amazon
region, later in the day, followed by a stop in Guatemala.
All rights reserved. 2005 Agence France-Presse.
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=28290
Published: Thursday, March 24, 2005
Bylined to: Carlos Herrera
Buying 100,000 AK 47 assault rifles was Chavez Frias' biggest mistake!
VHeadline commentarist Carlos Herrera writes: After an alleged incursion into
Colombian territory by Venezuelan National Guardsmen (GN) looking for
contraband fuel and supposedly mistreating Colombian civilians last week,
there has been no media “noise” from Colombia ... or provocative statements
ever since Alvaro Uribe came to Caracas to officially declare the Rodrigo
Granda affair over, and back to playing “happy families” with his Bolivarian
brother Hugo.
By way of contrast, the US has started making even more media “noise”
directly, instead of via its Colombian glove=puppets in the Narino Palace ...
from high ranking officials such as Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense.
He used his visit to Brazil to declare that he was “concerned” about the
purchase of 100,000 AK assault rifles by the Venezuelan government from Russia
... Rumsfeld said that he did not see how this purchase would be conducive to
peace in the hemisphere. Rumsfeld is right...
This will not be directly conducive to peace in the region ... but will be at
least a partial deterrent if the US decided to activate Plan Colombia ... or
send Special Forces to pay us a visit in the port city of La Guaira, for
example.
What should we do in this ongoing provocation situation from the US -- roll
over and die, or disarm, or prostitute our principles and let the bully tread
all over us?
Without even mentioning the US$450 billion US defense budget for 2005, which
is a grave concern for all 6.3 billion human beings on the planet Earth ...
especially if you live in an oil producing country or have vast reserves of
biodiversity and water such as Amazonia.
It was obviously a mistake for Chavez to have taken the decision to buy
100,000 AK 47s, and upset the world’s superpower ... this mistake must be
corrected immediately by our President.
He must buy at least 300,000 AK 47 assault rifles from Russia to bolster up
national popular defense plans for Venezuela. The mistake is that he has not
bought enough!
Add these 300,000 AK-47s to the 100,000 rifles due to be replaced ... then we
have at least 400,000 arms with which to defend ourselves. Consider 3 people
per rifle in case someone gets killed in combat and we have 1.2 million
defenders of the “Patria.”
We could wage an asymmetrical war against invaders from outer space, if
necessary. The US might manage to occupy Venezuela, but they would never win.
Taking Oscar Heck’s estimation of 5.2 million fire arms in Venezuela,
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=28230 this is even better, since we
could have 15 million people ready to defend their country and revolution.
That is a real deterrent ... and we are not threatening anyone.
Oh ... I forgot ... the White House says Chavez will send the arms to the FARC
and ELN, and thus destabilize the region. This is pure paranoid supposition
and media speculation ... what is not supposition and media speculation is
that the US is gradually arming Colombia to the teeth to combat “drug
trafficking and the guerilla movements.” Colombia is now the second largest
recipient country of US military aid after Israel ... and look at the
slaughter in the Middle East with so many weapons.
Even now, in the Colombia countryside, peasant farmers are displaced to the
cities -- around 200,000 thousand per month according to my Colombian sources.
The arming of Colombia and the use of “military contractors “(a.k.a.
mercenaries) on Colombian soil ... which is similar to what is happening in
Iraq and Afghanistan ... is the real destabilizing factor for the whole of
Latin America.
In my recent article “Military trains students to use rifles; study guerilla
tactics in the case of an external threat to Venezuelan national sovereignty”
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=25845 the nub is to mobilize the
population against all external threats, and train them to use arms to defend
themselves, their country, their families, their values, their oil, their gas
and national sovereignty and history.
In his excellent analysis published on March 23, James Petras writes:
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=28160 “The US "external" strategy
toward Venezuela and its "two step" approach toward Cuba face powerful
limitations.
First of all the Colombian regime faces a powerful internal opposition: 20,000
veteran guerrilla fighters and millions of Colombians sympathetic to the
agrarian reform program, independent foreign policy and political freedoms of
the Chavez regime. It is very dangerous for Uribe to start a "two-front war"
which might open the way to attacks on the principle cities including Bogota.
The US is heavily tied down militarily in Iraq and puts a higher priority on
war against Iran/Syria than Venezuela. The US intervention would be limited to
air and sea attacks and Special Forces.
Any war would mobilize millions of Venezuelans in a war of national
liberation, defending their own land - homes, neighborhoods, families and
friends. Moreover popular liberation wars radicalize the population and
frequently lead to the confiscation of counter-revolutionary property.
A failed invasion could push Venezuela toward greater socialization of the
economy and eliminate the domestic elite. Moreover, US economy and
multi-nationals stand to lose a reliable supply of petroleum in a tight market
and billions of dollars in investments - weakening the US position in the
global energy market.”
This point by point analysis by Petras is probably right, but for it to be
proven as such, then we have to wait for it to be converted into reality.
The US has an awful lot to lose...
Back to practical matters now ... instead of pussy-footing around with just
100,000 AK47s, the Venezuelan government should buy two or three times more
and rectify the mistake of the limited number in the original purchase.
It is much easier to radicalize the population if they are well-armed against
foreign invaders. We need to be ready, well-armed, trained and motivated
Carlos Herrera Carlos.Herrera@VHeadline.com
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Fyrefly1
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God bless the Venezuelan government and its people!
They don't screw around...
I wonder if Americans would be willing to fight for their rights.....
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sara
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it seems to me that most Americans don't care much about rights,
Hamburgers, cola, T.V. steroids, crystal Meth& prozac and they are fixed,
I'm Happy to see that THC-ministers are not like most Americans.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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What a coincidence, I was just reading an article written in Jan. 2002 that predicted where the US might fight the "war on terrorism".
In the summary they predict "...we believe that the most likely targets in the "War on Terrorism" will be Iraq, Iran, Colombia, Venezuela, and possibly (though hopefully not) Russia."
Read the article here:What Will Be the Next Target of the Oil Coup? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:31 am Post subject: |
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it seems to me that most Americans don't care much about rights,
Hamburgers, cola, T.V. steroids, crystal Meth& prozac and they are fixed,
I'm Happy to see that THC-ministers are not like most Americans.
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 I always remind myself that American Fascism smells like bubble-gum and hamburgers.
Bliss,
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| sara wrote: |
it seems to me that most Americans don't care much about rights,
Hamburgers, cola, T.V. steroids, crystal Meth& prozac and they are fixed,
I'm Happy to see that THC-ministers are not like most Americans.
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Call me sentimental ... but I'm finding it somewhat difficult to follow along with the bandwagon on this 'global' opinion.
Many Americans are very honorable people and live clean and healthy lives.
But then there are also those Americans who act discriminatorily toward peoples of other nations ... it looks like those Americans aren't alone in the world. 
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sara
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I'm very sorry to tell you stokes, but that is what the media show's us in europe, so it is not how I personally see Americans but a twisted image we get to see.
we see that there are people sleeping in a paper boxes on the streets.
that they eat cheap fast food and that it doesn't matter who is their leader.
that being over weight is an epidemic problem.
we see that prozac is one of the most sold medication in the u.s.a.
this getting the same over here, we get the same commercials on T.V
and the multi national are here too, doing the same thing as in your country.
don't worry we are all the same and the problem you have first we get later.
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Stokes
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Have you considered removing the media from your life since it only projects negative stories and images? It's definitely something that you can do to make the world a much more beautiful place for yourself. I've done it and I've found my life to be a better experience in many ways. Now all I have to do daily is overlook the mounds of anti-American material that Ferre posts on this site and listen to my Ziggy Marley - and it instantly becomes very easy for me to have a 'Beautiful Day'!
Ironic that Ferre also provided me with the download.
Have you been to America? I'd be glad to show you some of the wonderful places and people if you'd like to come visit with us. Consider it an open invitation.
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Although I do have to discipline myself from too much anti-american (or anti-anything) reading, I do appreciate Ferre's window on what's going on globally.
I need the view because of the 'lock' on American media.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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never been to America, But I have an American Boyfriend who I want to be with for the rest of my life.
I have removed the media out of my life just because the same reason you named it.
but my kids do watch T.V and their friends go to McDoll, play with Barbies.
and sing songs from southpark.
Thanks for the invitation , you are invited here too.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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I AM NOT ANTI AMERICAN
To make this clear. At present times it happens to be "America" that is in the news a lot yes, but this has everything to do with the importance of this news and nothing to do with my personal opinion on "America" because I wouldn't care less what "nationality" Human Rights Violators have, I am not anti-American, I am pro Human rights.
I whish that America wasn't doing the things that are documented in the news section, but America is doing these things and the mainstream media is covering it all up, If that is not news, what is?
Funny that, I had just wrote about that very issue on my blog.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the American media is not the only media in the global community that is guilty of distortion? Either way, let me share with you something that Mystic had bestowed me with earlier today. Maybe it will bring you the same kind of relief that I experienced ... then again, maybe not.
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Slarty Bartfast: That's just common, ordinary paranoia. Every creature in the universe has that.
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Slarty Bartfast: Everyone.
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Oh, and I couldn't help myself from cutting this quote of yours from less than 2 hours ago. Sorry.
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| I tried this once but it didn't work! Cops are brainwashed to the point of no return. Some, however think it's ok for medical use, most think wer are all idiots..... |
And (US) cops of all people..have no idea of the meaning of 'tolerance'. |
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Ferre
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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The reason I had written (US) cops is for the simple fact that not all countries have cops who have no idea of tolerance. I know because it is one of the basics for a Dutch cop to be able to understand before they can even be qualified to go to the police school. In some countries (like mine) they requeire a psychological test for this kind of important jobs and people who have to serve the community.
Even with my not being native English I sense a little sarcasm towards me and specially my intentions in some of the past posts of yours and now again.
Where I come from we are more straight to the subject bro, and we also see through this sort of attitude. Did I offend you personally in any way in the past brother? Or maybe I better put it more clear; What's your problem with me? It's clear you have a few issues.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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i dont know stokes but in my experiance most us cops dont show tollerance
im not anti cop they are brave & do a job i dont have the guts to do & i belive they think they are helping society whatever they do
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Ferre
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Oh, stokes, and to add some information to this quote you took from me from another topic, and brought to you here to serve your 'context'; I replyed there to Jason, he and I go a long way back, even before I founded the Amsterdam THC Ministry and we both have been posting on the same American Police forums in the past and I know what Jason was talking about in the topic that you took this quote from. Using this quote "standing alone" could give, indeed, a wrong impression.
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