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[prntrkmt]

[Spin~ello]

Aloha every1

[Grannymouse]

I wonder what would happen if one of the mj churches wrote into their scriptures that 'killing the oppressors' is an encouraged or acceptable act? (Even though as you say, most of us would not REALLY want to do it.) Wonder how a judge and jury would look at that?

It just makes me ill to think that i've been raised as a Lutheran. I've been baptised into Luther's church, even though I was not informed that he would love to burn those who honored herbs.
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[Rev. Steven Wilson]

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Ding Ding Ding round 4 ......

Rev Adams and prntrkmt,,,,

I been thinking about the things you said and I am impressed that you study the bible so much :-) and I have learned a few things also, I will not candy coat the fact that the Almighty God hates evil and will give to each one as they have done according to my belief. I am not the judge, nor will I judge any man/woman.

Lets put it all together,

1- Stoning was a way to cleanse evil from the those in the gates of Israel not the gentile nations to keep the blood line of the Messiah pure and undefiled. Again I had nothing to do with that.

Witchcraft in the sight of the Almighty God is evil and those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God, nor probably want to anyway.

Galatians 5:19-22

19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;

20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions

21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

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Here is that terrible God you speak of that Kills witches ..........

2Chronicles 33:1-13
1 Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-five years.

2 He did evil in the eyes of the LORD, following the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites. --> Driven out not burned:-)

3 He rebuilt the high places his father Hezekiah had demolished; he also erected altars to the Baals and made Asherah poles. He bowed down to all the starry hosts and worshiped them.

4 He built altars in the temple of the LORD, of which the LORD had said, "My Name will remain in Jerusalem forever."

5 In both courts of the temple of the LORD, he built altars to all the starry hosts.

6 He sacrificed his sons in [a] the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger.

7 He took the carved image he had made and put it in God's temple, of which God had said to David and to his son Solomon, "In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever.

8 I will not again make the feet of the Israelites leave the land I assigned to your forefathers, if only they will be careful to do everything I commanded them concerning all the laws, decrees and ordinances given through Moses."

9 But Manasseh led Judah and the people of Jerusalem astray, so that they did more evil than the nations the LORD had destroyed before the Israelites.

10 The LORD spoke to Manasseh and his people, but they paid no attention.

11 So the LORD brought against them the army commanders of the king of Assyria, who took Manasseh prisoner, put a hook in his nose, bound him with bronze shackles and took him to Babylon.

12 In his distress he sought the favor of the LORD his God and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers.

13 And when he prayed to him, the LORD was moved by his entreaty and listened to his plea; so he brought him back to Jerusalem and to his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the LORD is God.

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2- Paul a Jew before his conversion gave commands to beat & kill Christians who spoke the Name Jesus

3- I do not see the Catholic Church as true Christian for they worship saints and statues and pray to the dead which all the above is clearly mentioned as sin in the bible.

4- Millions of Christians are killed and in prison but you do not bring up that or feel bad about that.

5- When someone was in debt to a person in the Torah days they would become a slave to pay back what they owe, and also a master was a boss, just as we slave for our bosses today so to speak.

6- Paul never commanded Christians to kill witches and/or forced them to burn their books, L@@K --->> Acts 19:11-20

11God did extraordinary miracles through Paul,

12so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

13Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out."

14Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this.

15(One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?"

16Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.

17When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honor.

18Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed their evil deeds.

19A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.

20In this way the word of the Lord spread widely and grew in power.




I dont see burning and murder I see CONVICTION, COMPASSION and MERCY and forgiveness to all who come to Jesus. Wiping out all yours and my sins because of the sacrifice of the Lamb of God, Jesus died on the Cross for all the world, and is not willing that any perish but all come to repentance.

Well thats my take on the whole matter and think this is where I will end it. Lets use our efforts on the THC-Ministry and working together and helping those in need.

And I think we are at war because of helloooooo 911? They started something and the US intends to finish it. God Bless America.. Go Troops
And I don't think God told or leader to go to war, our leaders advisers did:-) I do believe in defending my country and will die for it!

I dont agree on many laws and stuff that our leaders placed in action but I will not talk against my country our its leaders. Scriptures says we are to pray for them and ask God to give them wisdom and courage.


Peace
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Abraham Lincoln December, 1840

If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004

[malloryjade]

Blah blah blah god, blah blah blah Jesus.... God was mean ,no he wasn't Jesus was good and murdered by bad god, Blah blah blah... God is good blah blah blah...
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Well we seem to have a difference of opinion and thats ok. We still live in the same world and breath the same air, so why not work together? Why not just get along? I never killed anyone nor do I plan to.

And I also sent a anointing cloth to a witch last year that my family knows who wanted to have a baby and could not, (verified by doctors) and other health problems and a few months later she became pregnant and was healed of the health problems. Anointing cloth I send is a new hanky I anoint with oil from the christian book store and pray for the healing of the person I am am sending it to. I am nothing so special, I just believe God to heal and He does everytime. I do need to get THC-Ministry's anointing oil.

I am not against anyone, let that be all you remember about me. I will admit how tricky you were to trap me to a point that you all gang up like wild animals on a piece of meat.

There would be no point of continuing this religious conversation or political conversation because its a dead end street.

I do respect your views and opinions even though we are different.

peace all
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"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."

Abraham Lincoln December, 1840

If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004