Rishi, Your writtings have been on My mind.

The GCW · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 430

Rishi,

Your writtings have been on My mind.

Biblically sound and ready to go. Jesus gave many visions to Us of Us going further than He went; for Us to proceed in a manner greater than Him; progressing beyond Our imaginations… One place is in John 14:12, when John & Jesus, together in red letters gets across the point: "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and (R)greater works than these he will do; because (S)I go to the Father.

Another place is in Hebrews 6:20 where Jesus is described as a “forerunner” and is associated with Melchizedek.”

Believing in Jesus the Christ means accepting the truth about cannabis and how it is told to Us that God created all the plants from the beginning; even the Biblical beginning on the 1st page.

Mel, is implicated in saving / moving the garden / the tree of life. Melchizedek was a forerunner for the Christ; He is given the same Biblical implication as Christ Jesus.

Cannabis / the tree of life / kaneh bosm, is the truth from the beginning and it is what WILL BE USED TO HEAL Us, as told in the end, on the very last page of the Bible.

Don’t just use cannabis; be granted to use cannabis. –see Revelation 2:7. And then cannabis becomes what God intended it to become.

Let Us realize, We don’t have to start a new way to pray or create energy in a cannabis unity manner… IT ALREADY EXISTS.

Consider cannabis less sacrament and more for baptism. For to understand that the baptism We inherit from John the Baptist uses fire and spirit / cannabis / the tree of life / kaneh bosm… -see Matthew 3:11. Water, no longer, in baptism. Now We may use the portable alter / the pipe, to baptize, daily.

The communication system is already in place, for Us to all go and have unity, while being baptized with the fire of the tree of life. That place is the Spirit of Truth’s house in Our own minds which connects to and from Christ God Our Father’s (the Ecologician) mind, which is also in Your mind. He will teach Us all things. –see John 14:26.

I testify, this is real; We don’t have to create something; just use what the Christ taught already.

Some like to not accept the Christ, or believe in the Christ. If You don’t believe, how can You even believe cannabis is real? It is not only that the Christ was made the Christ which means the anointed; but it is that CANNABIS WAS GIVEN FOR THAT PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO SAY CANNABIS IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE CHRIST, BECAUSE WITH OUT THE CHRIST WE WOULD BE LOST AND WITH OUT CANNABIS THERE IS NO CHRIST;

(kaneh bosm is part of the holy anointing oil)

THEY; WE FORM A SPIRITUAL CONGRUENT POINT; CANNABIS BEING ONE OF THE IMPORTANT NEEDS TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND COMES NEXT.

By they way; “test the spirits” -see 1 John 4, and notice it doesn’t just tell Christians to test the spirits; it tells everyone.

What You are describing, Rishi is a plea for everyone to become Obedient Christians; unlike the disobedient Christians exampled by George Bush, whom seems more the “Man of Lawlessness” (The THC deficient??? If The Christ is the epitome of the THC anointed is George Bush the epitome of the THC deficient??? Is that an example?) Obedient Christians receive the SPIRIT OF TRUTH and I testify it is the place to meet.

The Christ died for Our sins; not just some of Us, but all of Us; We are His. Let Us not refuse His peace pipe; the creation intended from the beginning to the end.

Go to Him, testing the spirits of Me; I have been flying; let Us fly together with Him asteer. It is His plant; let Him take Us where His plant goes.

A predesignated location is where We wish to go.

THCU

I Am in Hebrews, lately and it makes Me want to loudly show what is there. Take that Spirit of Truth to Hebrews and see what is exploding right before Our eyes.

Hebrews 6:19-20, This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

(even the word veil takes Us to Exodus 30, where the recipe of the Holy anointing oil, is given and to be used inside the veil, which We no longer need, because of THE Christ; doing His part.)

Now it is time for Us to do Our part.

RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN / WITH NO VEIL.

The Christ and The Cannabis can take Us to God. I believe there are other ways to God, but this is the way I know and I can teach; that works.

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I'm in. Just let me know where to be.
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Rishi · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 142

Brother GCW,

Your post in response is most interesting, and I appreciate it's essential spirit. Your emphasis, (implied) upon a spiritual focus in life that is deeply committed, is refreshing. I also agree that there is a strong connection between such a level of consciousness as that of a Christ and that which can be readily obtained through the high, given strong spiritual intention.

You said;

"Some like to not accept the Christ, or believe in the Christ. If You don’t believe, how can You even believe cannabis is real? It is not only that the Christ was made the Christ which means the anointed; but it is that CANNABIS WAS GIVEN FOR THAT PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO SAY CANNABIS IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE CHRIST, BECAUSE WITH OUT THE CHRIST WE WOULD BE LOST AND WITH OUT CANNABIS THERE IS NO CHRIST;

(kaneh bosm is part of the holy anointing oil)

THEY; WE FORM A SPIRITUAL CONGRUENT POINT; CANNABIS BEING ONE OF THE IMPORTANT NEEDS TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND COMES NEXT. "

Rishi;

Your points are provocatively intense. To say that cannabis is as important as Christ is surely an example. I would be most cautious however to equate the high of the Herb with any given religion, as the modern religions are fraught with misconception. In terms of there "being no Christ without the (annointing) Herb", I would have to say that it is not any annointing oil from hemp seed or otherwise which gives spiritual potency. It is the high itself which is spiritually potent, or to be more exact, the THC molecules of the Herbal flower (buds) which are surely a spiritual gift of the earth. I'm not necessarily saying something you don't know or didn't mean to suggest, but I felt this point to be worthy of clarification.

As for being "lost without Christ", well, such a sentiment can readily be classified as "spiritual egotism". In other words, anyone who claims that a religion or a given spiritual Teacher is the ONLY way to achieve high consciousness/"salvation" is trying to claim exclusive right-of-way of the spiritual Path, and that's exactly what I meant when I said, "modern religions are fraught with misconception". On the contrary, ANYONE with such intention and disciplined inner focus can, if they so desire and dedicate themselves, achieve such a level of consciousness as that of a Christ, Buddha and other such examples. Achieving this has little to do with one's religion. Also, I'm inclined to say that Christ, like Buddha, did not necessarily need an Herb, or oil or any system of belief in order to become who they became.

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GCW;

"What You are describing, Rishi is a plea for everyone to become Obedient Christians; unlike the disobedient Christians exampled by George Bush, whom seems more the “Man of Lawlessness” (The THC deficient??? If The Christ is the epitome of the THC anointed is George Bush the epitome of the THC deficient??? Is that an example?) Obedient Christians receive the SPIRIT OF TRUTH and I testify it is the place to meet. "

Rishi;

Actually, what I'm saying one way or another with all my posts is that everyone can Attain, and the High of the Herb is an excellent booster for the expansion of consciousness. I do not advocate obedience, I advocate realization. The truth is something to be realized, especially in terms of self knowledge and embodiment. It is not best achieved through adherence to moral principles (such as the ten commandments) because mindless adherence, (obedience) is not realization, (wisdom).
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The GCW · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 430

Rishi,

Thank You for the input.

The Christ Jesus summed up all the commandments in simplist terms into one; as to "love one another" and paraphrased it plenty in John 14-16 & 1 John.

To love one another, is to obey the commandments...

That is good advice to anyone; Christian, or anyone else...

In fact, when society separates church and state, that is really all they mandate to separate from; loving one another.

The government is mandated to not love one another; which is harmful.

That's all separation of church and state does; and it is because of misunderanding of Christ, which is caused by listening to the blood of Abel (the unable) instead of the Christ.

The blood speaks even when We don't listen or hear; We might as well choose who's blood influences Us.

That's why Christ Jesus was important; His was the first blood to speak of peace; He is the King of Peace.

THCU

Also, the recipe for the Holy anointing oil calls for many pounds of kaneh bosm, which is cannabis; not hemp seed oil.

The crystals of the cannabis plant and buds are included.

The most valuable crystals on earth.

THCU

Today My worship time indicated something interesting.

Are You aware that blood talks?

I have been quite depressed the last few days and angry; I was entertaining that anger because someone sinning against Me that I care for put Me in a position where while I was not being careful... to think of violent thoughts and usually when I do that, I can pray emmediatly and dismiss that stuff as quick as it hits My thought. But, I was not able to dismiss it... it was scary and I even called the person and talked about it, (but then the person took it as manipulation....) In My worship time I was in Hebrews 12 for days and I came to, "See to it that You do not refuse Him who is speaking."

You see, Abel's blood spoke to God, "which cried out for vengeance" (see the Amplified Version in Hebrews 12:24) and if We are angry and do not take it to Christ Jesus, We end up listening to the blood of Abel, which does not have the ability of the blood of the Christ Jesus to speak peace.

Since blood speaks and We are striving for Peace, let Us listen to the blood that speaks of peace.

I was able to get through this day in better spirits than the last few... because of this understanding and it helps Me shun thoughts of vengeance, violence and wicked stuff, knowing where it comes from...

With that in mind, it helps understand how Mr. Bush says He hears God; He thinks He hears God, but hears the blood of Abel because He entertains violent thoughts and does not dismiss them and replace them with the spoken blood of the Christ Jesus, which speaks peace.

Test the spirits (1 John 4) and realize that is advice to everyone, not just Christians.

"... our God is a consuming fire." the last words of chapter 12.

Hebrews 12:24, "...Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel."

Before He came here and died for Us, there was no blood that speaks of peace.

This is related because it is peace We seek.

**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:31 am Post subject:

I have split this discission from the original tread because it became a discussion on it's own.

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Rishi · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 142

Brother GCW,

Thanks once again for your various interesting thoughts, on such matters spiritual.

You said among other things;

"The Christ Jesus summed up all the commandments in simplist terms into one; as to "love one another" and paraphrased it plenty in John 14-16 & 1 John. To love one another, is to obey the commandments... That is good advice to anyone; Christian, or anyone else...

Rishi;

Agreed. I would call this point a matter of spiritual realization, or revelation, as you might phrase it. I might go further to say that to "love one another" is a matter of consciously holding high intention toward others as a matter of standard practice. You might also call that, "holding love and good will as a standing intention".

To that recipe I would also add that a person ought to be honest, which is to say they value truth above all else, even beyond personal preference.

It comes as no surprise to hear/understand the intent of Christ expressed in such a manner. When smoking Herb and using such intentions, (love and honesty) the results are really quite interesting, especially if those intentions are prgressive. What I mean by "progressive" is that you (the smoker) can just keep intending higher and higher levels of love/honesty/clarity during any given hour of time. This can be done by aligning with such a consciousness as a Christ as you know, and it can also be done directly as merely "a thing to be intended and embodied".

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GCW;

In fact, when society separates church and state, that is really all they mandate to separate from; loving one another.

The government is mandated to not love one another; which is harmful.

That's all separation of church and state does; and it is because of misunderanding of Christ, which is caused by listening to the blood of Abel (the unable) instead of the Christ.

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Rishi;

I would certainly agree that "The government is mandated to not love one another; which is harmful. " but would call that a matter of the corruption of the modern condition. To put that another way would be to say that the intentions of consumerism and material are anti-spiritualby nature.

However, the separation of church and state has come down to us historically as a matter of wisdom from the founders of the United States. Their experience with the meddling of the Church in Europe caused a deep lesson to be learned...that there's as much or more corruption in religious influences as there are from greedy lords, merchants and lawmakers. It is not that church and state were separate from a desire NOT to love, but from a desire not to be controlled as the European kings of old were controlled, by the now fourth largest and richest corporation in the world...the Catholic Church, (and others).

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GCW;

That's why Christ Jesus was important; His was the first blood to speak of peace; He is the King of Peace.

Rishi;

There have been peace advocates throughout history, and of a notable stature. One example who predates Christ in peacemaking and advocating is Gautama Buddha.

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GCW;

Also, the recipe for the Holy anointing oil calls for many pounds of kaneh bosm, which is cannabis; not hemp seed oil.

The crystals of the cannabis plant and buds are included.

The most valuable crystals on earth.

Today My worship time indicated something interesting.

Are You aware that blood talks?

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Rishi;

Interesting. Yes, I'm aware that the body has consciousness, and that consciousness has both the knowledge and wisdom of eons, (even the blood). Interestingly however, what my "blood says" is that Christ and Buddha are only two examples of what can be attained.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject:

Off topic: brother Rishi, please check your private messages.

(Sorry about the interference, please go on, I send you a pm a while ago that I guess you missed)
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The GCW · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 430

Thank You, Ferre and Rishi,

Wasn't the separation between church and state needed because the people that caused the need in Europe etc. were not loving one another with total reality? If people were instead purely loving one another there would not have been need for separation.

An example is when the "Christian Right" supports ending abortion, because their goal is to harm those who choose abortion. Whether or not You choose abortion, if You make a law that punishes one for choosing it; it is not an act of love. Punishing one another for doing what You don't agree with is not love.

THCU

Rishi: "Christ and Buddha are only two examples of what can be attained."

I agree. Another is Melchizedek.

Another is Us.

Even the Christ Jesus told Us:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father." -John 14:12.

We have the ability to do greater works than Christ Jesus.

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Rishi · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 142

Brother GCW said;

"Wasn't the separation between church and state needed because the people that caused the need in Europe etc. were not loving one another with total reality? If people were instead purely loving one another there would not have been need for separation. "

Rishi;

As I understand the history of this issue in general, the separation of church and state was, (and is) originally an issue of escaping such tyranny as evidenced through the Inquisition, the over 1000 years of "Dark Ages" and the political wrangling of the Catholic Church behind the thrones of various kings through the centuries. As history shows, the Church attempted to control ALL aspects of daily and national life wherever it had influence, which was (and is) throughout Europe. Such was its' suppression of all scientific advancement and intellectual questioning, that it threw men like Copernicus into prison for even suggesting that the Earth revolved aroiund the sun instead of the entire universe revolving around the Earth. To them, anyone who suggested that mankind and the planet upon which it sat was not, literally, the center of the universe was committing HERESY, and for that crime the punishment was usually death through torture. As you can well imagine, such a political climate fostered directly by the Church, was not at all condusive to free thought, liberty or any other form of civil justice. The witchcraft trials were rampant and it is estimated that millions perished as a result of them. The Inquisition, not to mention the Conquistadores of Spain and other Crusaders, (the various Crusades) were an ever marching procession of wars to enlarge the so-called "Holy Roman Empire". Note the choice of words, "Holy Roman Empire" which do not even attempt to mask the true nature of the ambitions of Church and the States which it puppeted.

The concern for a separation of Church and State were fostered upon centuries of such experience. Well aware of the desire of Christianity to control, dominate and otherwise compel everyone, even kings, to tow their line of beliefs to the exclusion of all else, and at the point of a sword, the founding fathers of the United States were wary indeed. They knew that the history of Chrisitiany was such that it couldn't leave others to their chosen beliefs, and thus, they knew a Christian country was contrary to any attempt at, "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

[thank you Brother Ferre, by the way, for the note. I had missed it on my previous visit and will look at it now]
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