Reverend Steve in Florida

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:14 am Post subject:

The phone number is Roger's number and it's good...

If you're a member you should call him anyway because he's willing to help and has lots of experience and ideas on what you can do.

Mainly if you're arraigned you need to ask for a jury trial because all you have to do is convince one juror and you go free.

But, you won't win in a jury trial if you are not sincere in your beliefs in cannabis as a religious sacrament.

Sincerety means cleaning up your act, so to speak...your life, to some extent at least, should reflect that sincerety. Honesty is the key here. They'll find out if you're just using the ministry to get high and party... Laughing

Hope that helps!

If you haven't yet, read this thread...Roger has a nice post with alot of info on page 2...Click here
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Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

Greetings markcovalt:

Despite the limited sucess of the ministries defense Sad

I still think it will ultimatly prove to be a winner. After my recent rantings, other ministers posted some very useful links which I will try to find and re post.

It seems there are more attornies willing to hear the religious defense than I realized. At the time of my arrest, the only ones in town refused to hear it. This actually makes sense to me now. Lawyers in Florida make there bread and butter by loosing "drug" cases. it's easy money. A religious defense properly implemented would pull the rug out on the
DEA(th) Evil or Very Mad

If you plan to use the ministry defense your going to need the kit. With out it, the prosecution will breathe a sigh of relief as they send you off to your new life as a colostomy bag. Without the kit, they will claim you have no serious religious convictions and just jumped on the religious band wagon in order to escape prosecution. If you don't have the kit, the jury, always believing the good honest police officer, will side with the prosecutor, even if he is Osama Bin Laden in a red suit with two horns and a pitch fork and you were mistaken for John the Baptist.

My mistake was trying to use the defense for a comerce situation. DO NOT TRY THIS, IT WILL NOT WORK!!!! Take the hit and scrape up the bucks for the kit. Join the ULC and become an ordained minister through them and talk extensively with Roger about using the defense in your state.

Take the ministry seriously. If you are using cannabis as a sacrement then understand that you are recieving it from G-d. Show G-d as well as his sacred cannabis and the ministry the respesct that is deserved. Pray to
G-d before use of the sacrement and pray for the saftey of Roger, the ministers and the ultimate sucess of the ministry defense. Hope this helps.

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:28 am Post subject:

Amen and Right on...!
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Stokes · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:24 am Post subject:

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:53 am Post subject:

Well said!

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Ben
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**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:38 am Post subject:

Stokes · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:46 am Post subject:

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:48 am Post subject:

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VWBusman · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject:

Rev Steve, I got you confused with Waldo for a minute....

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject:

Great post Rev. Steve. I too am in FL, and I'm wondering if you have anything active going with your ministry here?

It's always great to get a chance to hear from other people actually in my state.

Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

Hi Rev. Adam and welcome to THC ministry. My ministry has not had the sucess that Rev. Christie has had Sad

but then I'm not Roger Christie Laughing

If I were it would be TFC ministry Rolling Eyes

which just does not sound as good as THC. Any way, the situation here in Florida is pretty dismal as you well know.

I am investigating some recent posts by other ministers that might turn the tide in our favor. This website http://flcan.org/? Cool

was posted by Lilli a few months ago and looks very promising. Another site was posted by Pepper http://mpp.org/grants/mrp/ Cool

Though I am still in financial ruin as a result of my arrest, I start to feel some hope for a victory in Florida. Thanks to Lilli and pepper for the posts

VWBusman · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

Very disapointing VWBusman. I had not considered that these guys might just be running there mouths, but that may be what it is. Crying or Very sad

Lets hope they are not just a bunch of government stooges pretending to offer hope, but are really trying to discourage people from persuing a real defense.

**Ferre** · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

F.Y.I. And mpp.org refused a grant to THC Ministry for some obscure reason.
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