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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Purpose Reply with quote

Slowly working through all of the government paperwork for religions, even though I don't understand why the govenment can getaway with all of these ridiculous burdens on free religion.

The State of California requires us to submit a written purpose for approval by government officials.

The following is the tentative wording for the purpose (and, yes, we want suggestions and recommendations before we actually submit the paperwork to the government):

Pr Ntr Kmt is a religious church and is not organized for the private gain of any person. Pr Ntr Kmt exists exclusively for religious purposes. The specific purpose of Pr Ntr Kmt is to create, establish, and operate Pr Ntr Kmt for any enlightened persons who have a sincerely held religious belief in, of, and/or about any variation of Ntr and/or ancient Egyptian religion and/or derivations of ancient Egyptian religion. Pr Ntr Kmt is to provide places for public worship, religious training, and education, and to otherwise encourage, aid, and provide service, both material and spiritual, to the sick, the handicapped, the aged, the young, the homeless, the poor, the helpless, and the needy. Pr Ntr Kmt is to provide sanctuary and a group voice for and on behalf of all those who are persecuted, harassed, discriminated against, censored, raped, beaten, tortured, and/or killed for their sincerely held religious and/or spiritual beliefs. Pr Ntr Kmt is to conduct religious, artistic, literary, scientific, charitable, educational, and similiar activities. Pr Ntr Kmt is to create and support the creation of art, including fine arts, mundane arts, literature, sculpture, painting, architecture, music, theatre, film, and multi-media. Pr Ntr Kmt is to operate and maintain libraries, laboratories, gardens, and research facilities. Pr Ntr Kmt is to conduct and support the conduct of scientific, artistic, and religious research. Pr Ntr Kmt is to support and conduct worship, ritual, Witchcraft, magick, sciences, arts, readings, meditation, Ntr Sentra, herbalism, health, nutrition, sex, marriage, family, processions, circles, ceremonies, dedications, blessings, weddings, handfastings, renewals, annulments, separations, divorces, funerals, namings, welcomings, baptisms, comings of age, rites of passage, affirmations, holy days, Sabbats, Esbats, and other religious and/or spiritual activity. Pr Ntr Kmt is to grow, craft, create, and distribute religious plants, items, and materials, including healing and nutritional herbs such as cannabis and roses, and to support and educate others who do the same. Pr Ntr Kmt is to support and promote the basic essentials for peaceful civilization in Ma’at. In carrying out such purposes, Pr Ntr Kmt is to serve, coNtribute, and/or otherwise assist and/or take actions with other associations, corporations, organizations, and institutions carrying on such activities which are consistent with the purposes of Pr Ntr Kmt.

The most current copy of this purpose will be at http://www.prntrkmt.org/organization/purpose.html
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the best to ya!

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a cynic.

But the only way, this is going to change, is through a mass movement.

Now, I realize, that social change has taken place, throughout history, through small movements.

So on that, I applaude you.

Yet, this is something we could win, if we were organized.

This is the one singular problem most Cannabis enjoyers seem to have.....

They can't get organized!

We should be beating down doors. Setting up organizations. Spreading the word. Setting up community websites.

The fact is, WITH ALL THE SHIT THAT GOES ON OUT THERE, not a single person has died from Cannabis.

And if they have, the number will still be very small compared to doctor malpractice, disease, alcohol related deaths, LEGAL DRUGS, like Vioxx and etc.

This is a plant that can fuel vehicles, and send GOOD CO2 INTO the atmosphere, instead of Ancient, Fossil CO2 in which damages it.

The farmer's could rotate their crops. The economy would boom.

We have a medicine that could save millions. We have a plant, that will SAVE THE TREES, that enable us to breathe.

Why more people are not actively, whole heartily championing this cause, is a greater mystery to me than the Spinx itself. Smile

If America thought the Immigrants marching was big, if America thought Martin Luther King and his march was big, if they thought the Million Man March was big, there would be nothing, nothing, in comparison, if we could pull together.

Work night and day, pull together, and say NO!

I applaude with the greatest appreciation those who have fought, like Roger, like NJ Weedman, but the problem is that we are leaving them to fight on their own.

They cannot do it alone. I know of little old ladies, that have whispered to me and looked around before they said it, that it is a CRIME that this plant is illegal.

The consensus, would be much greater than I think we could collectively imagine.

The THC Ministry is a great start. But we should not get stuck in that prism, and that prism alone.

To fight laws, which are put in place, for the sole purpose of protecting THEIR system, is going to be a hard battle if we cannot do it in a more organized way.

Do you really think, if 1-2 Million of us got together, and smoked in front of the White House, with cameras and independent media all around us, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD STOP US?

If we camped outside of ABC, NBC, and all the major conglemorates, what are they going to do?

Being part of history takes a great sacrifice.

We NEED to get organized.

Everyone is bitching their heads off about the Oil prices.

HEY, WE GOT AN ALTERNATIVE. THE BEST ALTERNATIVE KNOWN TO MAN!

If I was a Socialist-Communist like Karl Marx, I WOULD BE SCREAMING......

THE TIME IS RIPE! THE TIME IS RIPE! THE TIME IS RIPE!

Where are our Paul Revere's?

We need to have meetings. We need to develop chapters. We need to find lawyers. We need to find money.

If a political candidate can raise millions and billions, WHY, why, are they better than us?

They are not.

That is my 2 cents, but I think it is worth it's weight in gold if the advice is taken.

Not only taken, but acted upon.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To fight laws, which are put in place, for the sole purpose of protecting THEIR system, is going to be a hard battle if we cannot do it in a more organized way.

Ageed.

We need people with organizational skills/experience, passion and imagination to get this one going.

IMO, cannabis consumers that have/had a grow going on are complacent with this issue and became satisfied with the status quo. At least temporarily.

Organization and action. That's what we're talkling about.

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If a political candidate can raise millions and billions, WHY, why, are they better than us?

They raise that money from sheeple/corps that belong to their crime-club and they have their hit-men (cops) enforcing their mandates.

Lies, deception and sheeple... a winning combo. Everytime. So far.

I admire your zest and hardheadedness, IntrepidEZJ.Wink

Peace,
Torkel
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The State of California requires us to submit a written purpose for approval by government officials.


Isn't that exactly what the state, or even federal government, is not supposed to be doing? I fail to see how-on-earth the state of California has the right to 'approve' of a religion. Do they have some sort of commission to judge and approve religions? Who are those 'government officials'?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excerpt from Atlas Shrugged, a conservative classic by Ayn Rand:

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for raising money, you must present a win/win.

You must show the people how it effects them.

Show them pictures of the "good" guys in prison.

Let them know how good people have been destroyed by the system for having a jpint.

Let them know that they will no longer be damaging the environment or paying high prices for gas.

Let them know that stoners, DON'T USE THAT WORD, "Cannabis enjoyers" are peaceful, open minded people that generally refrain from war.

Win/Win. There are so many ways to raise money.

What is in Norml's bank account? Hmm?
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
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The State of California requires us to submit a written purpose for approval by government officials.


Isn't that exactly what the state, or even federal government, is not supposed to be doing? I fail to see how-on-earth the state of California has the right to 'approve' of a religion. Do they have some sort of commission to judge and approve religions? Who are those 'government officials'?


The decision makers are unnamed bureaucrats in the California Franchise Tax Board.

I advoicate the arrest and prosecution of every member of the California Franchise Tax Board for felony treason against the U.S. Constitution, but think it is very unlikely to occur because so many of the judges belong to the Christian religion.

We need to come up with more than $5,000 just to pay for a lawyer to file all of the necessary paperwork. The government burden is imposed for the sole purpose of actively discriminating against minority non-Christian religions.
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