THC - Cannabis - Ministry :: Community Forum Index
Playing with the mind – NLP and the War on Terror
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    THC - Cannabis - Ministry :: Community Forum Index -> Issues of war and peace
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Playing with the mind – NLP and the War on Terror Reply with quote

Quote:
Playing with the mind – NLP and the War on Terror

By Thoth

Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 (CST) by Thoth



Every day we are subject to countless news stories, reports, revelations and visual images to remind us of the reality of the war on terror. A growing number of people are beginning to question if we are subject to the objective reporting of all the facts or if we are sold what the world’s governments want us to believe.

Most people are resigned to an element of bias in the media but are techniques such as NLP (Neuro-Linguistics Prgramming –ed) being used to manipulate our unconscious thoughts, installing and influencing new belief systems in the minds of an unsuspecting public?

The CIA has conducted three top-secret mind control projects since the 1950's, Bluebird, Artichoke and Mkultra. These projects centred on the use of aggressive techniques such as electric shock therapy and the use of chemical, biological and radiological materials to ‘brainwash’ selective individuals.


Is it possible that the war on terror is yet another CIA project, one that this time uses subtle methodology of NLP to affect confusion, self-delusion, herd mentality and tyranny amongst competing ideologies? It’s interesting to ponder that the CIA has often been accused of having connections with the birth of Al Qaeda and thus, the 911 attacks.

The background of NLP

NLP or Neuro-Linguistic Programming has become the buzzword of the past 30 years since the technique was formalised by Richard Bandler and John Grinder. NLP is essentially the study of the structure of subjective experiences and behavioural programming. It operates on the assumption that behaviour has a determinable structure that is developed at an unconscious level and which can be both modelled and modified. In the right hands, the benefits of NLP are undeniable, but in the wrong hands. a tool for self-improvement and behaviour modification can become a tool for ethically dubious applications such as mass mind control.

Neuro-Linguistic Programming is often proposed as a study of the way in which the human beings structure their perceptions, it creates a framework that can be used to analyse study and reprogram a person’s behaviour, lifestyle and attitude. As a form of unconscious and conscious learning, proponents of NLP state that it allows destructive patterns of behaviour to be modified and productive ones to be enhanced and that NLP relies on the voluntary participation of the patient. On an individual basis, that claim is probably very valid but if NLP were applied to a population as a whole, then participation in the exercise would be unconscious, most of those targeted would have no idea their thoughts and understanding were being subtly manipulated.

In many ways NLP isn’t really new; it’s an age-old technique that’s finally been given a name.

The missing link between Politics and Religion

NLP could be considered compatible with any religion or spiritual context. To all intents and purposes, religion itself may be nothing more than collective Neuro-Linguistic Programming, essentially reprogramming the habits and transforming beliefs and mental associations of its followers, as the socio-political climate dictates.

Perhaps more than anything, the adoption of the Christian faith by Rome sealed the relationship between politics and religion. By doing so, the emperor Constantine the Great set in motion a system of manipulation and control that has never been improved upon, in many ways no organisation puts NLP to better use than religion. The Roman political agenda was controlled as much through the early Christian church as it was through its political administration. The Roman Catholic Church increased and solidified its dominion throughout Europe with the infamous Inquisition the 13th Century creating a climate of suspicion and fear to control society behaviour.

Religious cults have long been accused of ‘brain washing’ their members owing to the methodology their organisations use, cult leaders often exuding powerful charisma and unquestionable authority. In many ways that methodology is no different to that which the mainstream religions employ; it is simply more direct and less subtle due to the fact that cults lack the cradle to the grave membership of the mainstream religions.

This cradle to the grave commitment underlines one of the assertions of Neuro-Linguistic Programming; that people do not generally have access to an absolute knowledge of reality but rather, have access to a set of beliefs that have been built up over time, it is this belief system that creates their 'reality'. For thousands of years, the framework of religious dogma has facilitated the creation of people’s realities. During the Middle Ages it wasn’t uncommon for Christians to attend church at least twice a day. People were obliged to attend frequent services and taught not to question the authority of the institution. These services were often used to ensure that both social and political messages were not only distributed amongst the masses, but also accepted by them.

When we look at the Muslim faith today, the devout are bound by the same obligation to attend their mosques on a daily basis where they are potentially exposed to the same subliminal and direct programming as any other devout religion or cult. In Britain, there are moves under foot to deport a number of so called ‘radical clerics’ from the country in an effort to stem the propaganda and messages of hate and intolerance that they allegedly preach.

The Media Machine and the battle for hearts and minds

The media has an unrivalled effect in human thinking and action using repetitive patterns to affect a form of social conditioning. Governments have learned how to utilize television with its 24 hour news stations, radio and the press as a powerful means of communicating the socio political messages they want people to hear. Television works on the conscious and subconscious at the same time imparting the messages to a receptive audience, who put their unquestioning faith in the impartiality and accuracy of television news and current affairs programmes. These mediums constantly reinforce the culturally defined micro and macro-patterns of society and the doctrines of the political regimes that underpin and channel human behaviours.

The media bombardment works on the principal that most people won't consciously remember many of the specifics of the reports yet at a subconscious level they will have created new enegrams and thus new pathways for the viewer’s thoughts to follow.

Significantly, it has recently emerged that George Bush had planned to order the bombing of the Al Jazzera TV station as part of his strategy in addressing the ‘war on terror’. Al Jazeera is of course the TV station that terrorist organizations, like Al Qaeda, send video messages to. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who despite his personal backing for Bush, has struggled to win the support of the British media and thus, the British public talked Bush out of this idea. When news of the planned bombing of Al Jazzera leaked out in Britain, the Attorney General there ordered that the British media, which has never been particularly supportive of America’s foreign policy, to cease reporting the story. Although the main stream media were then obliged to comply with the directive, certain acerbic members of the British press used it to highlight both Blair’s pandering to Bush and Bush’s questionable tactics. One current affairs program went as far as to joke that this would have been a major tactical flaw on Bush’s part, for no other reason than Al Jazzera obviously have more of an idea where Bin Laden is than the hapless Bush does.

The issue of the British media’s support of its government policy is in stark contrast to its American counterparts. In Britain, the media has been largely uncooperative in supporting the government’s policies concerning the war on terror, particularly in relation to its unfaltering support of American foreign policy. This lack of media backing means that the British government has failed to galvanise public opinion, support for the war on terror and US foreign policy is lukewarm. Without the support of the media mass, NLP is an almost impossible trick to pull off.

As has been demonstrated, the media plays a key role in collective NLP. One of the techniques NLP uses, and the reason why the media is so crucial to the technique, is visual triggers. These visual images are used by our sensory perceptions to create engrams, the neurological mechanisms through which memory traces are stored in the brain. These engrams create an anchor for our thought patterns.

Images such as the ones below are extremely powerful and long lasting, immediately plugging into the subjective experience of the individual and the collective experience of masses. In other words pictures of the Twin Towers, President Bush or Osama Bin Laden evoke a conditioned response. These visual triggers are deeply ingrained on the psyche of the West as evidence of the cowardly war of terror a jealous Islam is waging against the freedom and democracy of the West.

Daily existence and the 'Mind' are treated as systemic processes in the field of NLP. The processes that take place within a human being, during their interactions with others and with their environment are systemic (Bateson 1979). Our bodies, our societies, and our planet form a complex matrix of interrelated systems and sub-systems, which interact with and influence each other.

The process of NLP assumes that looking from different vantage points may result in quite different and yet equally valid descriptions and emphasis of what is important in the system. In theory, this could become a very effective tool that could be used to engineer conflict on a mass scale, with conflicting ideologies considering the same set of circumstances very differently.

The images of the mortally wounded Twin Towers, Bin Laden and Bush are deeply embedded in the minds of many in the Middle East although the associations are different where they are seen as a strike for freedom against an arrogant and oppressive superpower. Neither associations are necessarily correct but the new tool of mass NLP, the media, constantly reinforces the thought patterns of each culture.

Body posture, breathing, gestures towards eyes, ears or body, eye movements and language patterns are all elements that are used to trigger the unconscious mind in NLP. Photographs of Osama Bin Laden commonly circulated by the media always seem to show his eyes as being an unusually prominent feature. Likewise, the eye contact made by newsreaders when we watch their bulletins is another small but important component of the NLP technique. Leaders such as Bush and Blair are known to have incorporated NLP techniques in their public appearances and speaking, with body language and speech patterns featuring prominently.

The incorporation goals is another element of NLP, part of these goals may include changing a state of mind or "re-programming" their own or somebody else's beliefs. It is clear to see how this applies to the war on terror, with both sides being sucked into the reality created by their respective media machines and both been sold the idea that success lies with the subjugation of the other’s belief system and values and by embracing the belief system of their respective leaders.

The differing approaches – might versus stealth, to what in effect is a media sustained conflict ensures that neither side can ever really ‘win’. However, the individual and collective ability to reason is itself subjugated by the media machine and by the far right extremists from both sides. It is these far right extremists that form the basis for the behavioural model that both governments are attempting to implant in society. We confidently assume that we have the ability to discern but the reality is the process of NLP that the media facilitates ensures that the herd mentality prevails. We believe that we are thinking for ourselves, but to some extent this is an illusion. In reality we are thinking along the lines created by those enegrams that were so dramatically established on September 11th and a behavioural model that has been reinforced by the media on a daily basis since then.

Using NLP to win the battle for the hearts and minds of both the Middle East and the West has created two influential yet opposing mindsets and two very different realities, more importantly it has disempowered people on a global scale the likes of which has never been seen before.

The question is: Will this exercise in global political propaganda, or one might say indoctrination, be a unique exercise or will the technique simply be developed, refined and used again?

SOURCE...


_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
aeroplane
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 1472
Location: Valhalla

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back around '95 I read several books of Anthony Robbins, the guru of self-help. He claims to have "helped" many wealthy, powerful, and influential people as well as taught his techniques to the Pentagon. Ironically, NLP was one of the tools he incorporated into his techniques. He said NLP was a useful tool to help "reprogram the mind" to erase bad habits to replace with good ones.

Just my two cents...
_________________
"Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."

US President Jimmy Carter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read quite an amount of books an NLP, also a few that Anthony Robbins has written. In fact it's when I was studying NLP while I also study cultural and ethnobotanical anthropology that I realized that the Bible is nothing more than a NLP manual and tool for mind control, and clearly written (compiled) with that puropes in mind.
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Stokes
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 1426
Location: PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the 'fairy tale' theory?
_________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Where love is, there God is also.

-Mahatma Gandhi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stokes wrote:
What happened to the 'fairytale' theory?



I'm not going to give you NLP lessons brother stokes, do some homework first and come ask me questions when you have done that but telling tales over and over again to "anchor" them into the brain is one of the basic techniques used in NLP.
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Stokes
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 1426
Location: PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
... but telling tales over and over again to "anchor" them into the brain is one of the basic techniques used in NLP.


I'm sorry, could you please repeat that for me. Laughing frog
_________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Where love is, there God is also.

-Mahatma Gandhi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
aeroplane
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 1472
Location: Valhalla

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
I've read quite an amount of books an NLP, also a few that Anthony Robbins has written. In fact it's when I was studying NLP while I also study cultural and ethnobotanical anthropology that I realized that the Bible is nothing more than a NLP manual and tool for mind control, and clearly written (compiled) with that puropes in mind.


Funny, I had not made that direct connection until now. Just now. However, back then I did start to examine the bible differently, as in, "Who can believe this load of mind-controlling crap?!!" But not until you put it that way did I suddenly see the light... or the connection between biblical brainwashing and NLP.
_________________
"Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."

US President Jimmy Carter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in 1989 I was one of the founders of the "Euro Management Group" which rented the entire 4th floor of the Galleria Agora right in the center of Bruxelles and we gave NLP training and management courses to employees of big companies. That's the reason that I studied it, I teach-ed it to others for a few years.

When you have ever witnesses an NLP group building training, and you have been to a few Christian masses, you'll find the similarities astonishing

Laughing
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
The Wisco Sha'man
Shaman
Shaman


Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many of you have found yourself falling alseep to the tv on...

I wonder how many of the infomircals have something like this built in..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aeroplane
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 1472
Location: Valhalla

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
Back in 1989 I was one of the founders of the "Euro Management Group" which rented the entire 4th floor of the Galleria Agora right in the center of Bruxelles and we gave NLP training and management courses to employees of big companies. That's the reason that I studied it, I teach-ed it to others for a few years.

When you have ever witnesses an NLP group building training, and you have been to a few Christian masses, you'll find the similarities astonishing

Laughing


Hmmmm, Brother Ferre and NLP?!! That gets my mind working. Could NLP be the reason this site is so damned addicting??!!! Shocked

Coinsidence or conspiracy?
_________________
"Penalties against the possession of a drug
should not be more damaging to the individual
than the drug itself."

US President Jimmy Carter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehhe, Brother Aero, would you be shocked if I told you that Brother Roger has studied NLP too.

Laughing
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
ljb
regular contributor
regular contributor


Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 40
Location: midwest of the usa

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so say more about NLP, mind control and the bible's use of repetition as a form of mind control. a lot of literature uses repetition. so how does the bible's literary style differ? just curious

linda
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ljb wrote:
so say more about NLP, mind control and the bible's use of repetition as a form of mind control. a lot of literature uses repetition. so how does the bible's literary style differ? just curious

linda


To answer your question, it's not in the literary style sister Linda, it's in the doctrines and the instructions, specially in the many instructions, that book is full of them, instructions for repeated indoctrination and worse of all, starting with the children, to "nest" the doctrines in the children before they are adults and are able to deside for themselves if at all, and when they want to accept them.

The Bible is the first version of: We are Borg, all your base are belong to us. Laughing
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
merlingfx
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 52

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
The Bible is the first version of: We are Borg, all your base are belong to us. Laughing


For proof, look how brainwashed the people at CfC are... Laughing

But honestly, I went to the largest christian forum I could find a while back, because although I myself was baptized Christian, I can not for the LIFE of me understand why all these people are putting blind faith into a book thats 2000 years old and widely disproven through archeology and science.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2036798-why-are-you-christian-why-do-you-believe.html

Look at how these people are so brainwashed that their defense for the bible IS the bible.

This went on for pages and pages of them continualy going in circles, and I eventually gave up as it became clear to me what Ferre means when he says the Christian churches are experts at NLP.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 7295
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen people who talked in bible quotes all the time, in fact I banned one of those from our forums because too many members were leaving because of this behaviour from one person.

This person was replying in every single topic with HALLLEEELUUUYAAAA's and PRAISE JEEEESUS and frikking bible quotes and couldn't help doing this. Needles to say it got so irritating for others that after numerous warnings and loads of complaints from members we had to ban this person.

Next thing this person did was start an email campaign to members here telling them that "Ferre hates christians" and that Christians are not welcome here. They are, they are only not allowed to dominate our boards with their brainwashed minds. Bible quotes kill conversation.
_________________
█ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
Radio Free Amsterdam
People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    THC - Cannabis - Ministry :: Community Forum Index -> Issues of war and peace All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Public forum Public Forum Members only Members only forum Members Group Members Group

THC-Light skin designed for Amsterdam Cannabis Ministry by JuggoPop
phpBB Group | THC Ministry Members | Cannabis Religion | Sacrament | Forum html archives | Site Map | RSS Feed |
ScriptWiz.com phpbb HTML Archiver - Created by ScriptWiz.com and released by Skinz.org