New Site

Opi · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: New Site

Hello all,

I just got The Church of Khidr's new website up and hosted!

Right now, the content is limited 'cause I'm trying to build a database of legal information regarding religious cannabis, general information pertaining to religion and the use of cannabis (soma, hoama, incense, and other 'stories'), and other pertinent information. If you guys wouldn't mind checking out the site and giving me your feedback, I'd greatly appreciate it. You can either post your feedback here or on my Green Forum. Wink

http://www.iliveinabox.com

Thanks for your time and help.
Peace and One Love,

Rev. Joe

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:32 am Post subject:

Cool website and board...

Smile

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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject:

Opi! You're such a Khidr!

Good job!

Bliss,
Ben
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Opi · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys,

Yeah, like I said, we're far from being done; this is just our first draft, the final product will [hopefully] astound you all! I'm gonna try and host a comprehensive library of information on religion AND the religious use of cannabis; cover both sides of the pendulum. Anyway, keep the feedback rolling, it always helps. Peace and One Love,

Rev. Joe

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I just checked my e-mail and got some new graphics from Ferre, so the site looks alot more appealing! Check 'em out, they're grrrrrreat! lol... peace.

Rev. Chazman · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:24 am Post subject:

Keep up the good work Brother. If I can help, let me know.

Peace
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Opi · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:

Chazman and fyrefly,

WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER!!

Sometime, we're gonna have to meet up. If it'd be possible for you guys to come here, then that'd be great; I have some members of The Moorish Orthodox Church coming soon (not exactly sure when), but if you guys would be able to make this, it'd be great; they're "sympathetic" to our cause and I think it would benefit all of us.

Let me know about your availability and we'll go from there. If you cannot make it, I'll come to you. I think it's important for us to work as a team (even though, I understand if you do not wanna go public, for obvious reasons), this way we can build off of each other's experiences and knowledge (Gnosis). Alright, I gotta get alot of stuff done, I just returned from Springfield; myself, a member of the congregation, members of NORML and the Illinois Marijuana Party went down to Springfield, IL today to show our support for the medical marijauna bill that is currently still before the committe. The crowd was astounding, the testimonies were incredible, and the whole time was just a good thing to take part in. However, the Drug Czar, himself, did make an appearance, and his presence was made known. He got up and spouted off the Gov's propaganda, didn't really answer questions, and kept repeating himself; but, hey, that's what our tax dollars pay for him to do (besides travel in a personal goverment plane...). The end result was that the committe decided not to push the bill before the Senate yet, but they have every intention to, after they get done making their (understandable) modifications.

Anyway, there will be alot more info on my site later tonight regarding the whole thing. Until another day,

Peace and One Love,

Rev. Joe

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:41 am Post subject:

Thanks for the great idea of meeting....I'd love to see your place...but, unfortunately I'm in Hawaii.. Sad

If you ever come here I'd be glad to show you around....I'm on the Big Island, twould love to take you to meet Pele!

Joe
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Opi · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:16 am Post subject:

Hey Fyre,

Heh, thought you were in Illinois for some reason... But, yeah, I plan on making a trip out there as soon as I finish with my classes (2 mos), so I'll for sure take you up on it then.

Peace and One Love, Brother

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject:

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Rev. Chazman · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:00 am Post subject:

Sorry to say that the medical use bill in Illinois is dead. It was defeated 7-4 due to the lies being spread by that drug czar toady giving speeches in Illinois during the deliberation of this bill...

How "convenient" she came at this particular time...

Oh well better luck next year. Sorry all you sick and dieing people in Illinois. Besides the afflictions you suffer from, you also continue being a criminal or go on without medical cannabis. What a humane world we live in. Crying or Very sad

Peace
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**Torkel** · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject:

Isn't this ironic how they won't legalize mmj but the FDA voted 17-15 in favor of putting vioxx, celebrex & others back on the market. Shocked

They said that these drugs will have a 'black-box warning' of the increased chance of heart attacks & strokes printed on the container, but the people have the "right" to choose these drugs if it helps them w/ pain, etc. Shocked

Why doesn't cannabis get the same consideration? After all, it's non-toxic and has many medical uses already proven & many more undiscovered uses. Crying or Very sad

Peace,
Torkel
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Opi · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:

Hi guys,

I just wanted to inform you that the committe who was holding the hearing did not vote against the Bill; they voted against the Bill going in front of the House of Reps and Senate at this point in time. Next week, they will be voting again to determine if the Bill is ready to go to the House; if they believe they have worked out the Law Enforcement issues pertaining to the legalization of medicinal cannabis, they will in fact send it in front of the House.

The Bill has not been cancelled, nor do they have the intention to. Medicinal cannabis will inevitablly be legal in Illinois, but they want to insure that people can't fraudulently obtain cannabis (false ID cards, growing and distributing 'cause you obtain a card, multiple people smoking herb when only one person has a card, things of this nature).

Nearly all of the represenatives on the committe are for the legalization of medicinal cannabis; they know the benefits of it, they also brought up Celebrex and other FDA approved perscriptions (to the Drug Czar no less), and with the incredibly moving testimonies of the patients who are breaking the law to save their own life (by using herb).. It is a sure thing that this Bill, when it's ready, will fly through the House and Senate. However, when it comes to laws, "flying" through doesn't necessarily mean that it will be quick, but all people who are convicted of medicinal marijuana now should be able to get their charges/convictions over turned. Irregardless, they've been working on this Bill for over a year and it'll probably be finished within the next few months (so, hopefully, it will take effect next January, however, this is based off of speculation).

Peace and One Love

Opi · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:

Also, someone here might know,

I was told by a pysch a few years back that he doesn't condone the use of cannabis, but if it helps me with my depression to keep doing it. He put it this way due to our current laws regarding doctors encouraging the use of illegal substances; however, now that this is all going through... Would it be possible to subpoena the doctor's records regarding the times that he and I talked about the use of cannabis?

This could help me out in my case, because I do use cannabis to allieviate depression and to help with anxiety (which is believed to be the reason, by doctors, why I for seemingly no reason black out (pass out)). So, if I can bring up the fact that on this certain day (whatever day it was that my Doc and I talked about cannabis), that I brought these issues to his attention, then it would exemplify the fact that I am using cannabis to better my Self spiritually and myself physically/emotionally as well.

I dunno, maybe someone here will though...

Rev.Holden Greene · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:

i dont think that would be good because your defence is religion not medicinal or psyciactric you should ask roger on that one nice site
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