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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject: New myth : Schizophrenia by cannabis . |
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Schizophrenia by cannabis new myth.
by our reporter Koen van Eijk.
Castricum - During the 1930´s, you would ´become homophilia´ from cocaine use. In the 1970´s, schizophrenia was caused by failing parenting by the mother. It all turned out to be a hoax. Again, a new medical myth appears to be born: Now you become schozophrenic from hash and weed.
Psychiatrist Daniel van Dijk was surprised when he heard the news last week: The use of hash and weed, cannabis, would be the cause of 200 more schzophrenia patients in the Netherlands each year. The media reported this on basis of a Trimbos-Institute research. According to Trimbos, even people without genetical indications would become psychotic of the intensive use (smoking) of cannabis. The underlying message: Softdrugs are not as innocent as being claimed. Coffeeshops are places that threaten the health of the youth.
Dr. van Dijk, who works at the Duin en Bosch Psychiatric Hospital in Castricum, could hardly believe the Trimbos-Institute came up with a research containing such explicit results, out of the blue. If anyone knows what is going on in the area of schizophrenia and drugs, in Holland and far beyond, it is van Dijk. At the Duin en Bosch hospital, he is working on a research into the connection between psychic diseases and cannabis for years. He does not want to be called an authority, but he belongs to a group of experts in this area in the Netherlands.
¨I started to investigate it. It appearred there was no such thing as a new research, but a combination of several old researches. The conclusions attached to all this are extremely short sighted.¨ said van Dijk. ¨I have told that to Harald Wychgel of the Trimbos in a radio transmission. He replied that he did not say that cannabis causes schizophrenia, but that the mediadid. OK, but he did not say it was not so either. Now, the harm has already been done.¨
Van Dijk brings up the examples of cocaine use and homosexuality, and schizophrenia and the mother. ¨In the 1930´s there was a lot of cocaine snorting going on in the circles of the artists, authors and journalists, the so-called bohemians. Together with this, the people within this group did not have a problem with showing their sexual stances than other Dutch people. There was a connection between cocaine and homosexuality, but not any substabtial connection.¨
The idea that mothers are responsible for causing schizofrenia in their child, took place according to the same mechanism. Van Dijk: It was discovered that mothers of schozphrenics could not let go of their children.
That was supposed to be the reason the kids would go schizophrenic.
It turned out to be the contrary, afterwards. The children got a lot of extra
attention because they were already not well. It was adeqaute, and not damaging behaviour by the mother.¨
If an image is already being sketched, it is difficult to undo this. A lot of mothers have been tormented by feelings of guilt, in case their son or daughter were diagnosed to have schizophrenia. This effect lasted quite some time. Eventhough the story was considered untrue by medical science, this was not the case in the surrounding of the suffering families
of schizophrenics. The ´schizophrenogen mother´ has been the topic of rumours and slander for a long time.
Van Dijk warns for a false interpretation of the facts in this current discussion around cannabis and schizophrenia. ¨These kinds of statements cause a lot of damage and unrest. I have been called by parents of schizophrenic children three times, this week. One Mother even asked me: Would my son not be sick if I would have managed to keep him away from the coffeeshop?
In the meanwhile, it is known there is a connection between cannabis and schizophrenia. Everybody working in the psychic health care will confirm that schizophrenics are heavy cannabis smokers. Van Dijk´s research proves that scientifically. Out of mentally healthy Dutch males between 20 and 40, 5 to 10 % smoke cannabis. Schizophrenic males in the same agegroup smoke a lot more cannabis: 60%
But if smoking cannabis in early puberty will subsequently trigger schozophrenia at an older age, can not be proven by van Dijk. It seems more that many patients use it as self medication, a theory that is being in doubt within psychiatry. From his own research amongst 176 schizophrenia patients, van Dijk discovered that a lot of the patients smoke cannabis to combat the side effects of psychosis preventing medication. By smoking cannabis they feel less stiff, experience more emotions and in some cases the can enjoy having sex again.
Van Dijk gives an example of one of his seriously psychotic patients, who would go wild over the smallest causes. He was put on an other medication and received psychotherapy, through which he managed to decrease his drugs consumption. The results are encouraging. The boy is more relaxed and wants to start working in a normal job. He has not been in isoltion for a long time. Finding a job might just give him the last little push in the right direction.
Van Dijk notices how in the current political climate the tolerance policy is being up for discussion, with mixed emotions. ¨If a drug free world were possible, I would be in favor of that. Unfortunately, our society is not like that. Everything prohibited attracts criminals. As a doctor I say: In favir of natinonal health all bad things should be legalised. In several cities in the Netherlands, free heroin was issued to a group of junks during a research. These junks started to take good care of themselves, they became healthier, started working and quit stealing. And take the situation on the premises of Duin en Bosch. We had a housedealer from Bakkum here. That went fine, until that man ended up in jail for a while. Then, pushers came calling here. They gave the patients a freebie the first time. They came back the next day, and turned to one of the patients, a young boy: Pay up now, or we´ll ripp your head off. This really happened. Such a volnourable boy, who already thinks he is being followed by the KGB, sees all his fears confirmed like this.¨
Translation: Nol van Schaik.
Source: http://www.nhd.nl/Pagina/0,7106,15-1-2039-...-1331--,00.html
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They'll never let go, will they   
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Cannabis helps to erase bad memories erase your bad memories here and may help to cure phobias, makes some people RICH and solve lots of problems because it is indeed a miracle plant as stated on BBC Online a while ago. Of course there'll always be someone that tells us we are bound to turn crazy sooner or later GET CRAZY HERE but generally the public supports cannabis legalization. Petitions are started every day to address a growing divergence between the law and the people will. In the meantime the Dea is working against us Click  the devil They don't want to lose their jobs, do they?
I don't think cannabis can cause schizophrenia in healthy people. But no one can stop a schizophrenic from smoking weed though... even in these times of prohibition.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:06 pm Post subject: Netherlands: Review Shows That Cannabis Use Is a Risk |
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Netherlands: Review Shows That Cannabis Use Is a Risk
Public health researchers in the Netherlands now believe that there is "converging evidence" to show that using cannabis is a risk factor for schizophrenia.
Researchers from the Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction warn that cannabis approximately doubles the risk of schizophrenia and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of the drug used.
The researchers draw their conclusions from a review of five longitudinal studies recently published in four medical journals, including the British Medical Journal (Nederlands Tijdschrift voor Geneeskunde 2003;44:2178-83).
Data from these studies, which were carried out in the Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, and Israel, made it possible to clarify the sequence of events over a long period of time. They discounted the possibility that schizophrenia increases subsequent use of cannabis, the "self medication" hypothesis.
The researchers excluded people with a previous history of psychotic problems from the analysis, and they controlled for the effects of other confounders, such as the use of other drugs. Thus they were able to show the specific influence of cannabis.
The Swedish and Dutch studies also showed that the amount of cannabis used was associated with the risk of schizophrenia, supporting the causal hypothesis.
In the Netherlands five in 10 000 adults a year develop schizophrenia. The researchers say that a conservative estimate based on consistent results is that using cannabis doubles the risk of developing the disease.
They conclude that although the risk may be numerically small it is "serious in clinical terms" and that ignoring the message of the recent research "is not an option."
According to the 2003 national drugs monitor, a systematic collection and analysis of data carried out by the institute, the number of cannabis users in the Netherlands increased from 326 000 in 1997 to 408 000 in 2001.
By the age of 18 years half of Dutch men and a third of Dutch women have used cannabis at least once. Of the people who say that have used it in the past month, half say they have smoked more than five  s.
The researchers accept that epidemiological cohort studies do not offer complete proof, as there may be other underlying social or biological factors.
But a co-author, public health researcher Filip Smit, said that public health officials don’t require the same degree of certainty that scientists do. He said, "From a public health perspective we do not want to take the risk, especially with something as serious as schizophrenia." The institute says its conclusions have implications for health education, and it wants more preventive health projects, especially ones that are geared towards teenagers at school.
The paper has initiated a debate in the Dutch media, where a spokesman for the institute said, "Soft drugs have lost their innocence." |
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Yeah, the "study" is a lot of crap! 
It's the same way you could "prove" you get schizophrenia from drinking freakin' MILK!!
It's a matter of how to use statistics, I bet nearly all of the hard schizophrenia cases do drink milk, or have done in the past and with this kind of "science" and the same calculations the conclusion is that milk is a much bigger danger for public health, whatever illness, the victims will have been drinking milk and therefor those kind of conclusions can be made. Crazy way of thinking? not logical? Well, same with that "report" One can flush it through the toilet, that's what it's worth. It's new ant-cannabis-propaganda and fits in the future plans of the Dutch government who made a (secret) deal with the DEA to give cannabis a bad image. The fascists need that bad image for their profitable "war on drugs".
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What they are saying is that 10 people out of 10,000 smokers will develope schizophrenia in their lifetime while only 5 people out 10,000 non smokers will develope schizophrenia in their lifetime and they directly relate that 0.0005 % increase in schizophrenia incidence on the smoking population to the use of cannabis. Bad, bad weed  
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