Mikey Weinstein: Enlisting Christ: Not on my Watch

**Ferre**

Interesting article, and once again, the insanity of the abrahamic scripture followers is being displayed...

Grannymouse · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 128

Egads. Sounds like the burning times are starting all over.
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john s revealer · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject:

To be honest it is the fundementalist not all the abrahamics . But these are the same people who want prayer in school only as long as its their prayers

Washington DC: History was made in the American Congress on Thursday as the US Senate opened its daily session with Hindu prayers.

Former journalist and priest, Rajan Zed wearing the traditional saffron robe, delivered the minute-and-a-half long prayer, which was translated into English as per the rules of the Senate Chaplain.

But before the ceremony could begin, a small group of vocal Christian protestors shouted angry slogans from the visitor's gallery right above the Senate floor.

The demonstrators including two women and one man were arrested in the Senate visitors' gallery for disruption of Congress, a misdemeanor.

On their website this week, the American Family Association also criticised the idea of a Hindu clergyman delivering the prayer.

Meanwhile being given the opportunity to conduct the prayer, Zed said, “It's a great honor for me and Hindus all over the world.”

Nevada-based Zed has performed similar ceremonies in the State Assembly and Senate and traveled to Washington after getting an invitation from Senator Harry Reid to do the same on Capitol Hill.

For almost 200 years the US Senate has started its workdays with prayers usually delivered by the in-house Senate Chaplain.

But equally old is the tradition where Senators invite guest chaplains from their home states to host the prayer ceremony.

**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:37 am Post subject:

From where I look at it, all abrahamic scripture believers/followers are mentally and intellectually challenged.

You have to be a real dumbo to believe any of that crap, and you need to be even a bigger retard to sit and accept a bunch of pedophiles to call you sheep and tell you how to live. ("you" as in generally speaking, not pointing any fingers)
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prntrkmt · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:03 am Post subject:

**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:19 am Post subject:

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:00 am Post subject:

This is no secret. The military in this country will try VERY hard to push you into an abrahamic religion because that's what most of them subscribe to.

I totally agree with Ferre. My beliefs are based on real world observations. Not on some phony myth. I'm to the point I just don't care about how someone feels when it comes to religious beliefs based on nothing but faith. Grow up, grow a brain, and realize that there is no tooth fairy, easter bunny, santa claus, or Jesus of Nazareth. I guess when you're brought up believing in bunnies that hide eggs, fat guys that slide down chimneys, and some little tinker bell that steals your teeth for money, believing in a fallacy like Jesus is easy.

You've got to be FAR beyond gullible to accept any abrahamic religion as a truth. You actually have to make a conscious choice not to allow your faith to exist in a place where reality, logic, science, history, and common sense apply. The fact is, you have to be willing to ignore ANYTHING that could be verified on your own, and do it by choice.

If that is your choice....you just aren't intelligent enough to be intellectually stimulating to me.
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malloryjade · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:55 am Post subject:

here's my 2 cents. I'm in total agreement with Ferre and Rev. Adam. it pisses me off that my money has god on it. the boy scouts blab about god the girl scouts too.it's in my childs classroom everyday. it's everywhere and I'm sick of the horseshit it's so offensive yet atheists are viewed as being beneath pedophiles and killers. I'm so scared too of the bible they want me to take an oath upon in court too. like I give a flying crap. the bible is just crap to me. so funny God is everywhere and no where. Laughing

I cannot believe all the idiots in our society. they're all scared of free thinking. shit I wish sometimes I could be like them it sure would make life more blissful not knowing whats going on. Laughing

Church is just mind control and a big support group churches should go by the title idiots r us.
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:49 am Post subject:

Ahh see....but they will say that WE are not spiritual! We can't have a "religious" defense because many of our beliefs defy the "religious" classification guidelines that are in the constitu.......oh, wait, guidelines for what is a religion aren't allowed according to the constitution?? Ahh heck...I get so confused with their christian court system.
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Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

john s revealer · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

A definition of Religion is in order

The Oxford English Dictionary, 1971:

Religion:

Action or conduct indicating a belief in, reverence for, and desire to please a divine ruling power; the exercise or practice of rites or observances implying this.

A particular system of faith and worship.

Recognition on the part of man of some higher unseen power as having control of his destiny, and as being entitled to obedience, reverence, and worship; the general mental and moral attitude resulting from this belief, with reference to its effect upon the individual or the community; personal or general acceptance of this feeling as a standard of spiritual and practical life.

Devotion to some principle; a strict fidelity or faithfulness; conscientiousness; pious affection or attachment.

Ferrre you say you believe in Ancient wisdom does this perclude the believe in deities Since all ancient peoples have a belief system devoted to one or a pantheon of deities.

Unfortunately you seem to practice the same intolerance for which you say you despise in Abrahamics. Does this extend to others who practice other faith that believe in deities other than . Or is it just misdirected at all the believers of the Abrahamic god.

I am no evangelist and do not wish to impose my own beliefs on others. And I will not insult the beliefs of others as you do. By calling it bull crap. This gets of us nowhere and just illustrates our own hypocracys, That is my own opinion and opinions are like assholes everybody's got one.

**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject:

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject:

Hmm....I might piss some people off with this post, but I just don't care any longer. This ministry is based on the ancient wisdom of enlightenment through entheogens. Not based on any deities what so ever. The modern science part tells us not to bother with deities along with many other interesting things.

As far as intolerance goes, it gets difficult to tolerate grown men and women who kill in the name of fantasized deities in this day and age. Just about every one of the world's ills come from people who tout their abrahamic beliefs as divine and holy. There's nothing holy about anything to do with conquests, wars, inquisitions, or anything of the like yet almost every world leader is subscribing to these faiths and taking action in the name of those gods. In case you haven't noticed, our world is falling apart thanks to these religions.

To say that all abrahamic religions are a fallacy is not an insult. It's a fact. Just like we know Zuess and all the Greek and Roman gods don't exist, the same is true for Jesus and the whole plagiarized bible story. To say that we here use entheogens to further our understanding and experience parts of this reality not available without them is based on fact. There are no guarantees once you're gone and every last soul on this planet knows that. This is why abrahamic followers need god, they can't accept that this life could just end and all be for nothing or that there isn't some rosy place to go after living in their own hell on earth. However, most of the people left here at this particular ministry believe that our spirituality is to be experienced in the here and now, because no living man truly knows what tomorrow will bring.

If these statements hurt the feelings of the "believers", I have to say that's just too bad. Either accept scientific and historical fact or there's no damn help for you. When a man is willing to deceive even HIMSELF for nothing more than an unsubstantiated belief he is dangerous not only to himself, but to everyone around him. THIS is the core of the problem with abrahamic religions. It allows the people to have a place in their mind where everything solid and real in this world doesn't matter. There will always be that "god", whatever that is, to "save" them from everything bad that either they do, or that happens to them.

Under your definition of a religion, I would have to say this one falls under "devotion to a principle". We are devoted to the principle that it's the journey that matters, not the destination. We are devoted to the principle of gaining peace and TOTAL enlightenment (not possible while believing in a FAITH) through the use of modern science, common sense, logic, and entheogens.

I think that covers that. On another note, I have some dear friends who believe in this crap. I will fight to the death to protect their right to believe it, but I will do so the entire time exercising my right to call it crap. Cool

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“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”

-James Madison

Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject:

Wth Ferre....were you reading my post when I typed it? Laughing

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“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.”

-James Madison

Police officers acquitted for beating a 64 yr old man recently in New Orleans. In the words of their defense attorney "all he had to do was comply"....and they wouldn't have fractured his face.

**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

No need for that bro, it's plain common sense and rational thought that usually finds the same answers, provided that all information to come to factual conclusions is available.

In science it's called peer review.

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**Ferre** · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject:

Most of you are familiar with the works of Dr. Robert Melamede, Associate Professor and Biology Chairman (ret) at the Biology Department of the University of Colorado who has conducted extensive research into Cannabinoids and the endo Cannabinoid system of us humans. Dr. Robert Melamede is a member of our ministry and words his belief system like this: