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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 367 Location: Santa Cruz Cannafornia
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Mendo Measure BvG |
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Measure B Proponents, Opponents Organizing By Ben Brown
CN Source: Ukiah Daily Journal March 16, 2008 California
"Local elected officials and commercial growers view Measure G
as the mandate of the Mendocino County voters,"
- Ross Liberty,
Ukiah businessman, Yes on B coalition
"Marihuana influences Negroes to to look at white people in the eye,
step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
- William Randolph Hearst - Newspaper Tycoon (1936)
'NO ON MEASURE B' PRIMARY BALLOT ARGUMENT
Measure B is a backward step towards marijuana re-criminalization
that targets small-scale, personal use growers.
Measure B is a step backward that would take law enforcement resources
away from more serious crimes.
It would make anyone with more than six plants a felon,
Commercial growers do not know about or care about local marijuana laws,
- Laura Hamburg,
spokeswoman for the No on B organization
"Prohibition is a new form of tyranny by the old over the young.
You have the adult with a cocktail in one hand and a cigarette in the other
saying `you cannot' to the child. This is untenable."
-- Anthropologist Margaret Mead, on "The Dick Cavett Show," 1969
Ganja safer than not toking...
Lock 'em all up, for Crist's sake!
"I want a Goddamn strong statement on marijuana,
I mean one that just tears the ass out of them. You know, it's a funny thing,
every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish."
"You have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks.
The key is to devise a system that recognizes this all while not appearing to."
- Richard M. Nixon - Former President
(about the War on Drugs to Chief of Staff, H. R. Haldeman,
according to Halderman's diaries)
420 Dysfunction Junction, Incarceration Nation
Why is Marijuana Illegal? DWR by Pete Guither
"In some districts,
inhabited by Latin Americans, Filipinos, Spaniards and Negroes,
half the violent crimes are attributed to marijuana craze.
Dr. Lee Rice of San Antonio reports that eighty per cent
of all the murders committed by Mexicans
are done while the killers are drugged by marijuana."
- The Christian Century (newspaper) - 1938
"No person growing 25 plants is doing so for personal use
because even the sickest person does not need that much marijuana.
Measure G has created a permissive attitude in the county
that encourages large scale growers to come here
to grow marijuana commercially with little fear of prosecution."
- Ross Liberty,
Ukiah businessman, Yes on B coalition
Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation
of the prohibitionists at face value,
marijuana prohibition has done far more harm
to far more people than marijuana ever could.
- William F. Buckley, Jr.
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David Bard


Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1188
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I think we should all stand together and ask:
WHY IS CANNABIS ILLEGAL?Surley it could be answered in one answer. why is murder illegal? Because it takes away the live of another. Why is theft illegal? because it makes someone suffer.
I want the one answer, black and white, no shades of grey.
I love that shades of grey, thanks Brother Cathan |
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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

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David Bard


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry DdC,
I didn't mean from you, I want from the judge! |
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7138 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Sorry DdC,
I didn't mean from you, I want from the judge! |
A judge will tell you that it is illegal because article number so-and-so in the law tells you it is illegal. Plain and simple.
Judges do not make the law, they are BOUND to uphold the laws made by politicians. Judges have little choice, they do not have anything to say in the law making process, it are politicians that do that, a judge his job is to sentence people who break article number so-and-so.
Even when judges personally do not agree with certain laws they still have to uphold those laws, and when they don't like it they have no other choice but to resign, there's no way a judge can change laws or make them, that's not their job.
Once you realize that you'll find it easyer to direct your anger and questions about laws you do not agree with towards those who do have the power to change laws: politicians.
It is totally useless to protest laws in court, when you want laws to change the only way is through politics. Religions have this awareness since centuries, they make sure their members are well numbered in politics where they can use their influence to make changes which benefit their goals, if only potheads were that smart Cannabis would be legal all over the world by now but somehow Cannabis users, although they have about the same numbers as religious folks do not use this knowledge and become active in politics.
For years now I advice people (Cannabis users) to become active in their local political chapters, to infiltrate politics in the same way that religions do this, it is the ONLY WAY to get laws to change, protests don't work, complaining don't work either. Being active in politics does work, it is why The Netherlands has a lenient approach towards Cannabis, for the simple reason that many Dutch politicians also smoke weed and are open about it. _________________
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David Bard


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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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It is totally useless to protest laws in court, when you want laws to change the only way is through politics. |
Our politicians smoke, but they are scared to say anything, due to getting a bad name, no politician will talk to a cannabis smoker.
NJ weedman, lovely guy, started up his own party, no-one supports him.
Mike Gravel, no votes.
LCA, no votes.
Our Government is not like the Dutch, how long the Dutch government will stay Dutch is questionable.
I thought the in the Netherlands they had a smoke-in in Dam square. Cannabis is still illegal in the Netherlands.
Laws are changed in Court, we already know that. They always say, under court case no? this has or hasn't happened.
Tapping on the Politicians door won't work they never answer. |
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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 367 Location: Santa Cruz Cannafornia
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is/was that a city council can not overturn a citizens initiative. So if the citizens don't get hoodwinked, "G" should remain in effect. Citizen Review boards and elections do wonders in keeping the politicops working for the citizens and not the DEAth Merchants. SC's city lawyer tried intimidating everyone and headlined a challenge to the initiative. Not much after that. Copshops everywhere seem obligated to "Save the Bloated Budgets and Confiscations", San DEAgo's been crying since 96 to overturn 215. These greedy sicko's with vested ignorance are all over the place. Suits to Nuts... When they pop their pointy lil heads up, we'll just keep a hammering them down... Not as many as there was before. With info at our fingertips, the racism, fascism and un-American Activities against such a versatile, job producing, profit plant. Many are saying "WTF!"
- DdC
Why is marijuana illegal? Safer Choice
Monday, 18 February 2008
A brief history of the criminalization of cannabis.
DWR Pete Guither
O Mendocino, How Green Is Your Ballot?Debra J. Saunders
San Francisco Chronicle (CA) November 17, 2000
While state and federal laws against marijuana still stand, Measure G denies local funding for the arrest or prosecution of people who own up to 25 marijuana plants.
The Big G also mandates police protection for those who grow marijuana for personal use. Eh hem, I ask Dan Hamburg, a former Democratic congressman and G champion: 25 plants for personal use?
The answer: Not everyone has a green thumb. On the Mendocino coast, plants don't grow as heartily as they do inland. He admits that one could reap a pound from one plant...
Mendocino County OKs Pot Growing and Smoking
Mendocino Co. First in US To Decriminalize MJ
Grow Tips by Nüz
S.C.Metro nuz 10.20.04 CA
With the county OKing a marijuana limit that allows patients up to 3 pounds for medical use and a 100-square-foot plant canopy, Nüz visited the WO/MEN'S ALLIANCE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA's garden to see what those limits really look like.
One 6-foot plant, endearingly named VICTORIA, filled the county's canopy limit all by herself, but WAMM co-founder MIKE CORRAL warned growing isn't as easy as it looks, especially if, like WAMM, you don't spray plants with anything but "some old seaweed concoction against timber rot."
As it happens, WAMM members have already hand-picked 1,000 caterpillars off Victoria, who is billed as "Our country's first federally protected plant," and was planted May 1, after WAMM got an April 21 injunction which prohibits the feds from raiding the garden, at least for this year.
Corral says growing the green stuff is a constant battle with gophers (which he deters by planting root balls in wire baskets), not to mention chipmunks, squirrels, bunnies, rats and mice (which use the plant as bedding) and deer, which like to nibble the leaves.
"I have a hard time harvesting 3 pounds from 100 square feet, and that's after 30 years of experience and growing it in the best of circumstances," says Corral.
continued...metroactive/0443
W.A.M.M.
Santa Cruz Makes Its Mark On The World
Santa Cruz City Council Targets Bush
Grown in Santa Cruz
Fighting Back in Santa Cruz
Pictures From WAMM Protest
Robert Anton Wilson, who says he suffers from post polio syndrome, is wheeled away after receiving marijuana from Jeremy Griffey, left, and Kathy Nicholson, second from left, both with the Wo/Men's Alliance for Medical Marijuana,
at City Hall in Santa Cruz, Calif., Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2002.
Calling Santa Cruz a "sanctuary" from federal authorities, medical marijuana advocates _ joined by city leaders _ passed out pot to about a dozen sick
and dying patients from City Hall Tuesday.
(AP Photo/Mike Fiala)
R.A.W. R.I.P.
WAMM Raided - September 5, 2002
Inside the Remote Farm That Supplies WAMM
Santa Cruz Legalizes Cannabis if its Organic!
Santa Cruz Council OKs Cultivation Of Marijuana
Bed, Bud and Breakfast Opens in Santa Cruz
and yet some schmuck will inevitably try...
S. C. Att. Barisone Challenges Santa Cruz' New Marijuana Law
Santa Barbarian's Wiley Hyena
Watsonville's Spanish-speaking Degenerates!
If you need medical marijuana to ease your pain, you'll have to go to Santa Cruz. The City Council banned prescription pot sales in Watsonville in a 5-1 vote Tuesday.
Safer Denver
WARNING: Do not be fooled by opponents' claims that this measure cannot be implemented. In fact, in Missoula, where a similar measure was adopted last year, officials recently announced an official policy in which they will refrain from arresting adults for marijuana possession.
It's not a matter of whether city officials can do this, but a matter of whether they will. If they do not, they are officially breaking more Denver laws than any adult marijuana user.
Marijuana Measure Not Likely To Matter By David Montero
CN Source: Rocky Mountain News November 08, 2007 Colorado
Once again on a ballot measure, Mason Tvert pushed for allowing marijuana possession in Denver, and once again, he got it by a whopping vote total. And once again, the vote likely means nothing legally. Ballot Question 100 sought to make possession of less than one ounce of marijuana the "lowest law enforcement priority."
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WeHo 'Decriminalizes' Marijuana Use
West Hollywood -- In a controversial move the City of West Hollywood became
the first in the Southland to decriminalize the possession and private smoking
of marijuana in small amounts.
Cannabis News
Missouri city lenient on marijuana use
Laura Berger reporting Sunday, June 12, 2005
In November, the residents of Columbia, Mo., passed a two-part ordinance that decriminalizes the use of marijuana -- meaning no jail time or arrest for a person holding less than an ounce and a quarter of pot.
COLUMBIA, MISSOURI
Monday, March 14, 2005
Columbia police group starts petition drive to repeal marijuana ordinance Associated Press Kansas City Star
Places that have decriminalized non-medical marijuana in the US
Multiple places have decriminalized non-medical marijuana in the United States; however, marijuana is illegal under federal law. Most places that have decriminalized marijuana (also known as cannabis) have civil fines, drug education, or drug treatment in place of incarceration and/or criminal charges for possession of small amounts of marijuana, or have made various marijuana offenses the lowest priority for law enforcement. A few places, mainly in California, have removed all legal penalties for marijuana, including personal cultivation.
Judge Rules Against Alaska Marijuana Law
A judge struck down part of a new Alaska law criminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, saying it conflicts with past constitutional decisions made by the Alaska Supreme Court.
ONLY 8 PEOPLE CAN LEGALLY USE POT AS MEDICINE
A North Carolina manufacturing plant receives $62,000 a year from the government to roll the cigarettes and ship them in sealed tins of 300 each, to the patients' doctors and pharmacists.
America's 5th Legal MMJ Patient George McMahons
Patients Out of Time
Legal Marijuana Smokers Testify at IOM hearing(98)
Feds Need One Million Joints, Staff Will Pay $4 Million to U of Mississippi
Source: FedBuzz June 24, 2000
The government may be waging a war on illegal drugs, but it continually has the need for marijuana a lot of marijuana. In fact, it has just placed an order for one million cannabis (marijuana) cigarettes and some bulk pot, both Mexican and Colombian.
The National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) has awarded the $4.2 million, five-year contract to the University of Mississipi School of Pharmacy, which has been growing the federally-used marijuana under previous contracts.
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