maybe there is no purpose, either way, doesn't really matter

Hatrackman

maybe there is no purpose, either way, doesn't really matter.

apparently happiness is real

apparently pride is the root of all goofdom, always forgivable, though, as all ignorance is naivity... doesn't really matter though.

bear spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
salmon spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
cow spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
pig spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
... as long as we have warm Christmasses we can pretend helplessness as we look at the world and listen to our new stereos and content ourselves with the taxes we spend on the Olympics and war... doesn't really matter

may the capitalists realize perfect capitalism, so that they may know perfection. may the murderers and rapists realize perfection in their disciplines so that they may come to know perfection itself.

doesn't really matter, whatever will be will be- whatever your reaction to this article is, it is still not a choice.

You're God- now how deceived would you have to be for that to be true?

patience be with me
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:28 am Post subject:

Hatrackman, I really enjoy your posts. Could you please explain in more detail this idea that "whatever will be, will be" in more detail. I am trying to understand this because although I believe that there are some things set in stone, I don't think the path itself is clearly defined. I believe decisions we make may slightly alter or delay certain inevitable truths.

Care to discuss this further? I'm quite interested in what you have to say. Thank you.
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Hatrackman · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: not even an inch

there is no moment of 'choice' ever. People who really want truth will see the obviousness of fate- it only takes analysis of the catalyst point that some think of as choice.

it is when we understand fate, that we begin to know the thing that we are.

peace
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**RevErikM** · Shaman Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 235

For me, the term "whatever will be, will be" means do what you feel is right - and accept the outcome as what was rightfully supposed to occur. If it isn't supposed to occur, it won't - if it is, it will be.

The term "whatever will be, will be" is supposed to inspire you to live regret-free and know that the choices you made in the past were made with the best of experience you had at time. Though you may not have done the same thing now because you have more experience to back your decision making, you shouldn't dwell on "a bad decision." It was good and right for when you did it, or it couldn't have happened. It's not meant to make you feel powerless and driven solely by the current of fate.

However, there is a school of thought (of which I am no subscriber,) that insists even what you feel you chose to do, was pre-ordained. I am a believer of multiple realities; I feel that when you come to a fork in the road and you have to decide which to take, you choose to take both at the same time and the point of choice spawns a new reality with a new karmic (karmic to me means action and result of that action) cycle starts from that point. I believe this because from time to time I can see into these other realities, though this "I" is maintained in this reality.

The viewing of these other realities is another reason I feel that this "reality" is not the "real" world, and that the sacred plants are keys to viewing the "real" world from our locked-in point in this instance of "reality," i.e. - uniting with God (The point where all things we would see as separate become One.)
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Hatrackman · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: The I 'n I

Your ego is an experiencal tenticle of God, nothing more. When we know what we are we lose our fear. When we lose our fear we remember Heaven.
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**RevErikM** · Shaman Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 235

I agree with you, but isn't the purpose of the experiencial tentacle to experience things from a singular and non-unified perspective?
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Hatrackman · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: yup

to perceive non-unity until truth becomes evident--- going from "I'm a person, not God" to " I'm God and I still don't make choices."
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