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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject: Mandatory Draft Bill Snuck In - To Be Debated 6-6-6 Reply with quote

JOIN UP ! JOIN UP !

There's work to done !

Quote from rense.com :-

"On February 14, 2006, Congressman Charles Rangel (Democrat - NY) introduced a bill (Universal National Service Act of 2006 - HR 4752 IH) aiming at drafting everyone - men and women alike - from the ages of 18 to 42 into the military for a minimum period of 2 years.

Or to quote the bill: "To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." "

read the rest here ---> http://rense.com/general71/dd.htm

now why do you suppose they want to do that ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"to provide for the common defense....." this fool needs to stop quoting historical documents he intends to undermine....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"to provide for the common defense....."


...or more appropriately worded, " to provide for the common OFFENSE. Laughing

Other than the revolutionary war, when has the usa genuinely fought a defensive war???

Military adventurism, imperialism and fascism - same damn thing the way I see it.

Rightwingnuts

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: www.growpeace.com Reply with quote

Hello out there,

Aloha. A single-Mom friend of mine wrote and published a terrific manual called, "How to Protect Your Loved Ones From the Draft". I highly recommend it and (sadly) see that it has even more value today than it did yesterday.

It's "A step-by-step guide to Obtaining Conscientious Objector Status" containing "Exemptions, Postponements and Resources, and Changes in the Draft Laws Since Viet Nam".

$4.95 each from:

Growpeace Press
P.O. Box 232
Pahoa, Hawai'i 96778

All the best to you and your children,

Roger

P.S. Can we have equal time to debate recruiters in schools?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for posting something positive there brother Roger.

when i posted that story i was horrified by it.my great fear is that those troops will be used on the streets of America.

young kids , forced into the army against their wish , then forced to turn their guns against their own people.

it sends a shiver down my spine.! i hope people buy that book so they can help their children avoid this 'draft'.non-compliance is the only way to fight something like that.violence and rioting is wrong no matter how extreme the the rulers become.

i watched a video a friend of mine taped (i got rid of my T.V.) it followed a bunch of these 'recruiters' as they went around to a bunch of schools , shopping malls and wherever they thought young people were hanging about.

they hassled and bullied these kids into giving them their names and addresses so that they could exert pressure on them to join up.

On film they discussed how they wouldnt bother with the nice middle class suberbs , but would concentrate their efforts on the poor part of town.

the scare tactics and intimidation they used was sickening.they were going to schools , in full dress uniform , and with the full aquiescense of the school authorities who helped them.

they did it in my school (in the U.K.) when i was 14 and i was suspended for two weeks for throwing an egg at a royal marine commando who was recruiting.they also told me that my 'card was marked.'

my mum was Irish , and when she was called to the school that day she tore through the middle of them like a whirlewind.the whole school could hear it.those teachers never tried to bullshit me again and the army decided i was a lost cause.

those big tough commando's could'nt even look my mother in the eye.they acted like naughty children who had been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.the headmaster had the sense to keep his mouth shut and stare at the floor.

so , that day i learned that my gentle , big hearted Irish mum was a celtic warrior woman underneath , and that i should NEVER bow down to immoral tyrants such as these.

I was a bit embarrased by all the trouble i had caused , but when i appologised to my mum afterwards , she looked me straight in the eye and told me i was right , and never to feel bad about standing up for what i knew to be right.

what has that got to do with anything ? .... er .......

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...This is a crusade on terror!" - GW Bush, September 2001 (spoken shortly after Sept. 11)

Who could forget those immortal words spoken by the "war president". Well, now that we see how far reaching the "crusade" is, it will take many little soldiers to keep the masses in complete submition to fearology and to support fearocracy around the globe and in your neighborhood.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As if we didn't have enough reason to object as a matter of conscience...

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Army Manual to Skip Geneva Detainee Rule

The Pentagon's move to omit a ban on prisoner humiliation from the basic guide to soldier conduct faces strong State Dept. opposition.
By Julian E. Barnes, Times Staff Writer
June 5, 2006

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has decided to omit from new detainee policies a key tenet of the Geneva Convention that explicitly bans "humiliating and degrading treatment," according to knowledgeable military officials, a step that would mark a further, potentially permanent, shift away from strict adherence to international human rights standards.

The decision could culminate a lengthy debate within the Defense Department but will not become final until the Pentagon makes new guidelines public, a step that has been delayed. However, the State Department fiercely opposes the military's decision to exclude Geneva Convention protections and has been pushing for the Pentagon and White House to reconsider, the Defense Department officials acknowledged.

MORE>> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-torture5jun05,0,7975161.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aeroplane wrote:
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...it will take many little soldiers to keep the masses in complete submition...

Right on, Right on, Right on:lol:

Especially when the whip comes down on Iran after diplomacy fails - and diplomacy will FAIL.

Bastard-Head-bush... I just had to say this Cool

chips-n-dip, anyone?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bill wasn't discussed yesterday as far as I could see, I had a look here:

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't worry me much since I have my discharge papers. I joined because it was my choice. I didn't join for my government. I joined because I -thought- I would be protecting my people.
Now I have decided, I'm glad I did it, but no longer have that desire, do to the truths I discovered.
War should not exist, therefore, nobody should be forced into it.
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