Legislature considering allowing churches to distribute pot

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http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18302.shtml

Pot Bill Hits Legislature

The state Legislature is considering allowing churches that use marijuana as a sacrament to distribute pot to people authorized to smoke it.
The churches must have nonprofit status under federal tax law before they could ask the state Department of Public Safety for permission to distribute marijuana for medical purposes, according to the legislation.

"It's not something that's a hot (issue)," Rep. Eric Hamakawa, D - Hilo, Puna, said of House Bill 2669, which he introduced by request.

Noting Hawaii lacks an initiative procedure, Hamakawa said he authors bills for people so their views can be heard.

Hamakawa, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, had refused to hear a similar pot - distribution bill he introduced in 2002.

"There was no support for it," he said.

Hamakawa's latest version has again been sent to his committee and also to the House Health Committee.

Sen. Sam Slom, R - Oahu, submitted a similar bill that has been forwarded to two Senate committees.

Slom said he will stand by his Senate Bill 3139 and will continue supporting medical marijuana.

Convincing the lawmakers to introduce the proposals was Puna's Jon Adler, a staunch marijuana supporter who last year spent six months in jail after being found guilty of growing far more plants than his medical marijuana permit allows.

Adler, a reverend in the Religion of Jesus Church whose members use pot as a sacrament, said he wants to give the drug away free to the more than 1,200 Hawaii residents authorized to smoke it to treat pain and other approved ailments.

"In it's present form, the only legal source would be the church," Adler said, adding he is "extremely optimistic" lawmakers will approve the measure.

The bill also would allow people addicted to crystal methamphetamine to wean themselves off the drug by smoking marijuana, provided "ice" dependency is deemed to be a "deliberating medical condition."

It does not limit how much pot may be grown or say where approved distributors would get the seeds needed to cultivate the drug.

"What really is missing from the equation is legal access to marijuana," Adler said.

Claiming that passage of either bill would spur a billion - dollar pot industry on the Big Island, Adler said he smokes marijuana to treat pain caused by a neck injury he suffered in a car accident.

"It's unfortunate, but the medical marijuana has helped me with pain management and healing," said Alder, who has run unsuccessfully four times for elected office, including Hawaii County mayor.

indicaspice · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:01 am Post subject:

Hey, that's something to keep our eyes on and good news indeed.
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Jonathan just put up a momment at http://cannabisnews.com/ about this issue, and I am posting it here also.
( will let Him know also that I posted it here, and request He comment also...)

http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18302.shtml comment #8,

HB2669 and SB3139 are held hostage!

Aloha and Thanks to all who see, thanks to those who can hear and blessings to those who can accept.....(the message) I have been saying the same things over and over to the world at large regarding legal religious use since 1974.The Lord gave this special plant to be used exclusively to BENEFIT MANKIND! Now we in Hawaii can do that and the recognition to legally distribute the same "sacramedicine"(TM) is inherent in our healing ministry's responsibility. I have successfully gotten this legislation on the table. Now it's up to the rest of the group to see it through. Please e-mail or call Rep.Eric Hamakawa's office at: (808) 586-8480 asking him to hear the bill in his committe and see it through to passage. Remind him of his vested interest and his promise to Rev. Jon Adler if support was found to be there. Urgency and action is required. In the Senate: Senator Collen Hanabusa heads the Judiciary Committe and she too needs to hear from supporters asap. To schedule hearings. This bill allows distribution of marijuana to legal recipients. Call (808) 586-7793 "Semper Fi"

Hawaii Medical Marijuana Institute (click on this at the C-news site, if You wish)

TrueProCannabis420 · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: whoa

Whoa! Finally someone take action of indeed doing that kind of methods. I hope Roger is involved in this too... IS he?

Or is he too busy doing this?

canni

oh here is roger!! canni

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HEH!
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Rev. Bob · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

GooD NeWs

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**pakaloha** · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:41 am Post subject:

Aloha Everyone!

Yes, it's going off here in Hawai'i. Politics, consciousness of sacrament, dreams of liberty and more. You can all help us dream this into reality, too. The time is ripe to be active in building our shared cannabis dreams.
Yes, I'm involved in this, thanks for asking.

Jonathan and I have a brotherly rivalry and some shared and some different interests. We used to speak on the phone a lot on this subject. We have some different methods and ways of ministering, like all humans have.

One difference is who gets to grow sacrament? Jonathan wants to be 'the only one. I said 'the only one'. I want us ALL to grow who desire to. Big difference, mates. What do you feel about this crucial matter? I'm open to all healthy points of view towards a glorious future for the most people.
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I love Jonathan and I love You pakaloha. I love You both equally.

I am glad You mentioned Your brotherly rivalry, for I am aware of it and don't want to bring it up My self. Thank You.

I am also glad You asked who should be able to grow cannabis.

I don't know that Jonathan wants to be 'the only one'.

I do know We should all be able to grow cannabis with out risk of being caged or killed by a Biblically descredited, government subsidized, cannabis prohibitionist.

We should all be able to grow cannabis with out any permission from any government rep. whether We are sick or healthy.

We have already been given permission, to use cannabis / kaneh bosm, by the Ecologician who created it and gave it to not only Us but all liveing creatures.

The Green Collar Worker.

TrueProCannabis420 · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: well

Well, both of u can discuss and talk to the gov't to create religion licence to grow cannabis sativa for only one purpose to promote religion. I am sure everyone want to grow their own personal plants, but in order to do that, they all have to go thur the hard process of getting licence and approving whom and what can grow. I dont mind growing HEMP plants which has less than 1 percent thc. In my mind i want to open my own HEMP store, which has everything from clothes to food to medience. Get what i am saying?
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Lilli · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject:

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**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

I can't see why 'the church' should be the one to distribute weed that we all can grow ourselves?

I also can't see why we would want a government to make laws about religion. What would give them the (frikkin') right? Why would we give them this right?

just my two cents.
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Rev. Chazman · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:12 am Post subject:

Cannabis should be free to grow by anyone wanting to grow it. I can see putting some age restrictions on it(like making beer or wine in the home now) but its should be legal for adults to grow a reasonable amount for their own personal/religious use at home.

Thats what I think anyway. Peace Smile

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TrueProCannabis420 · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:56 am Post subject: heh

Well I totally agreed with ferre! That what i have been saying since. personally, if we grow our own cannabis plants, we are doing god work. I spread the joy of holy spirit, we florish as we grow the hemp plants. GOD MADE THIS PLANT AN ULTIMATE PLANT! IT MAKES CLOTHES, SHELTER, FOOD, ETC. so many more i cant even type it all!!!! Jeez... what wrong with people who believe in govt, but not god! oh jeez... Mad

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Rev. Chazman · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:10 am Post subject:

Its government & big business's inability to "control", "tax", and "patent" cannabis that has helped kept it illegal all these years. We certainly dont need it to be controlled by one person... thats hardly what we have been fighting for.

Free for all Exclamation

Its only right.

Peace Smile

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Lilli · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:21 am Post subject:

Well dont you think that it is a "foot in the door" approach? Think about it. Its a long way thru this journey.... The government wants to regulate it same in canada.....Isnt this one way of keeping the goverment out? I agree with you fully we all should be able to grow it, but in reality if we were to share they would label us dealers,Where as well at least here in the states the supposed seperation of church and state?(should take effect)
I do see the" method to the maddness" so to speak. Am I making any sense at all? See a Minister is savey to lots of ppls problams, and isnt it all confidential? Like between a Dr an patient? I do know someone whom had been bound to crack for 17 yrs and came off it with cannabis. I think many more "streight" people would try it to overcome acohol and other addictions if they didnt have to go to the "Bad side of town" what better person then a minister? See my drift?~Lilli~
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Ska_Pastora · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:57 am Post subject:

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