Is Normal Now A Mental Illness?

**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:43 am Post subject:

You want to know where the true ATTENTION DEFICIT lies? It's the attention the children get from parents, period. Point blank.
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zero · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:48 am Post subject:

Dreamz0fSafty · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 101

well i'm not here to argue LOL too tired but hey fuck it I say in my opinion the shit exists maby its from lack of attention there was alot of that too whos to say it doesnt contribute not me but hey i can tell you i defintaly wasnt normal in comparison to the vast majority around me at the time but then agian I know the anxiety still exists but whos to say its not caused by some other reasoning it realy doesnt matter to many anymore especialy at this moment in tiem after 2 pitchers of beer and bowling LOL lets jsut say hey I was a crack baby i turned out fine i had my differences at one point but hey there pretty much noone exissssstant now lol i held the key down too long oh well

Bodom line is that i agree for the most part most of it is bull shit but i dont htink you should deny the fact that soem peopoel actualy do suffer severily from these problems dont tell people that these problems dont exist at all jsut say hey you got problem if i can help sure no prob i will as long as it doesnt burden me to the point of a problematic situation worse than yours or near = but dont deny the facts that are there many people have seriouse problems with anxiety depression and ADHD to the point of suicide or avoiding all contact with the out side world over some kind of over reaction or illusionary problem or worse there inability to concentrate on something longer than 5 seconds with out being distracted by the most minor thing liek the shuffling of paper or the simple sound of even the wind i still suffer some times. it is most evident when i am distracted during reading ic an get distracted by the smallest thing you could possibly think of and forget everytihgn i read in the last 5 seconds woooosh its gone i wouldnot be able to recall your name if you told it to me 5 times withing the alst 15 secionds before i was distracted'

Just dont deny a problem when one exists if you do your no better than the fucking government i live with that still cant grasp the concept that alchol causes way more damage in one year than smoking cannabis has ever done in the history of time it self much less the problems associated with the fact that the aresting of cannabis useers that are nonviolent causes more damage to the person being arested and there family than that associated with lets say a rapist seriously.......... well shit i would probeably revise that last sentence but I aint goan argue with my girl friend when shes got a condom inher hand Razz

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**aeroplane** · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry -- what were we talking about...?
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Dreamz0fSafty · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 101

so what if your mind has been broken? I dont want to disagree to make anyone angry lol and you getting angry isnt going to change what I think i know. Is it normal for parents to smoke crack while their pregnant? If I removed the part of your brain that enables you to be angry you would become completly placid and passive. If the part of your brain is damaged that would normaly act to calm you, make you attentive, enable you to remeber, the list can go on... Think about this and tell me ADHD isnt possible. How many people do you know that can use there mind to recover from these things?

Your opinions are starting to sound egocentric. So atleast hear me out with out a biased opinion. Dont knock something down just because you dont know everything about it. I have taken most if not all of your words into great consideration. I have left a way out and a way to criticize pretty much everything I've typed in this thread. I have recieved mostly authortarian point of views basicly you've said everything I know is wrong and there is no other way. That seams kinda silly if you ask me.

I dont think I will put away my text books as books are the keys to knowing. I would think Doctors PHD's and very inteligent people alike who wrote the books i'm studying wouldnt refute the facts placed before them. The tests are there they can be mimiced by any one with the proper knolege and equipment.

Anyway I dont think i'm going to post in this thread anymore.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:01 am Post subject:

me too I guess there are cases of children with ADD, or ADHD or whatever they find next. The main problem that I have is that this is a "symtom" that is much too often attributed to children who are perfectly normal but have the symptoms of what too many food-colorants and (artificial) sugars do to kids.
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HighRising · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:45 am Post subject:

**Torkel** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:48 am Post subject:

Ferre wrote:

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:50 pm Post subject:

So what is NORMAL anyway...?

Seems to me that if we adults would let kids be who they are instead of thinking that their poor children have to conform to some standard of behavior that....who sets??...the feds of course, there would be few cases of ADHD or whatever they call it today.

What would DaVinci, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Einstein, Gould and many other geniouses have been able to produce if they had been drugged up by controlling parents that wanted them to be normal and 'fit in'.....
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject:

**aeroplane** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject:

**Fyrefly1** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:

And Rembrandt, as well! Smile

**aeroplane** · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject:

Don Quixote · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:

well

i own shares in the pharmacuetical corporations and i am quite glad people are stupid enough to dose their kids full of powerful , mind altering drugs.my shares have jumped 20 banana's or whatever they are called.yipee.i am rich.keep up the good work folks.

nobody was ever mad untill the invented psychiatry and psycoanalysis.and who is it that promulgates this myth of sanity and insanity ? the same sort of people who invented the mythe of race superiority and inferiority . the same sort of people who invented mythes like eugenics . the same sort of people who think it is ok to carpet bomb mud hut villages.

the next time you meet a psychiatrist ask him to define insanity

he will tell you that the only working definition of insanity is "a failure to destiguish between reality and fantasy."

he will also say that if you took any thought from any human at random you could prove it was the product of an insane mind.

now ask that psychiatrist to define sanity.

there is no definition of sanity.

of course the case involving actual physical damage to the brain is different.

the answere is to stop feeding our children shit food full of crap because we are too damn lazy to give them proper food.

and ignore those psyco-bullshit peddlars who are the sort of charlatans we should be running out of town , not listening to.

i started studying pschology and suddenly decided it was all a lot of horse shit . on the whole , i still think it was the right decision.

sorry if my extreemism offends , but hey , i am crazy. ; - )

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