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Stokes Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: PA
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| If I stopped smoking weed tomorow, would you all turn yuour backs on me? |
Don't talk so dumb.
We already have ... after you advocated the shooting of a conscientious objector.
Just kidding.
Actually here's something to ponder.
If you've ever smoked sacrament in your life you automatically qualify as a member because the requirements do not specify how often you must partake.
Either way ... you're good to go, brother.
Rejoice!  _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where love is, there God is also.
-Mahatma Gandhi
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Fyrefly1 Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 2209
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Boys...boys..stop it, right now!
Jeez, zero..sure didn't mean to piss you off that much!
Everybody wants you to stay...just chill, OK?
Have some sacrament. You're taking all of this way to personal...
Joe
Be cool brother  |
fair enough. I just dont like bieng told i am bringing shame upon the church for wanting to include others.
Ill be nice now |
Naw, I'm on your side there!
I also don't believe we should exclude people from the ministry because of their personal beliefs, unless they're hostile, of course!
God knows, we need all the help we can get!
However, there may be an 'associates degree' available for those other people.
 _________________ Fyrefly1
"All truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer, 19th Century Philosopher |
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Mystic Power admin THC-Ministry YahooGroup


Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 3605 Location: Key West
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Please, i want to know if everyone here is as close minded. |
Your only error is in paying attention to an unnamed forum member whose motivies are suspect at best.
This person seeks not to uplift, but to muddy waters and create contention, strife and discord.
Getting good people like yourself to throw in the towel would only serve to suit this person's sick motives.
His insincerity glows like neon.
Statements such as "members of your church are not members of the THC Ministry" are, bluntly, lies.
He is in no position to tell you what the ministry is or is not. He's in no postion to advise you about anything.
This unnamed person only knows lies and intimidation. He's going to find himself very lonely, here, and won't stick around, providing we stop giving him the sick satisfaction that he craves.
Hang in there. You'll still be here years from now. Your nemisis' name will not even be remembered.
Bliss,
Ben _________________ "We are the Ones we have been waiting for."
~Hopi Elder ~
"In Lak'ech"
~ Ancient Mayan: "I am another YOU." ~ |
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ReverendCaveGrower Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 220
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:44 am Post subject: |
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I just saw a flaw im my wording used to express myself and updated it. I didnt notice you had already quoted it intill the edit was loaded, damn did it to me 2x i see.owell at least I can prove I am trying to word my posts better, just not fast enough yet
They can be jew, hindu, catholic, morman, satanic, rasta, vampire, any denomination ANYTHING. But they have to at least want to cultivate and use small, personal amounts of cannabis to join the THC Ministry.
I just gave you information on how you CAN have a member of YOUR church that does not use the sacrament, just they can't join the THC Ministry without reading and declaring to the following.
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By joining THC Ministry you declare that:
You are, or want to be, a sincere religious practitioner of cannabis.
You will take the simple steps to develop your 'legitimacy'.
It is mandatory for your spiritual practice to cultivate and use small, personal amounts of cannabis, in private - at home or church.
You are minimum 21 years old. (Or legally adult in your country) |
He can and should be alowed to worship with you and your congrigation(sp im shure). He should not be a member of the THC Ministry if he was not sincere when agreeing to the doctrine.
I don't think YOU have done anything wrong Zero, (if you throw up your hands and quit, I belive that would be wrong, and a true loss to our Church) I belive you have a member that mistakenly joined the THC Ministry.
To me it seemed like you were mad at the Ministry, and were blaming it for having a doctrine, rather than your member who claimed he was sciencere by joining, knowing he wasn't a practitioner, and does not want to be one.
again I belive you can have a member of your Church that is not a member of the THC Ministry with no conflict.
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| If I stopped smoking weed tomorow, would you all turn yuour backs on me? |
yeah like thats gona happen
the doctrine does not say how frequently you must use to be considered a religous practitioner, I have been out of sacrament for nearly 5 months after throwing away my last 1/2 oz before I moved. but Im working hard to amend the missing element of my worship. _________________ Reverend Cave Grower |
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Stokes Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: PA
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Your nemisis' name will not even be remembered.
Bliss,
Ben |
Troglodyte ... that's an easy one to remember.  _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where love is, there God is also.
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Mystic Power admin THC-Ministry YahooGroup


Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 3605 Location: Key West
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Oh....see....?
I'd already forgotten...
Bliss,
Ben _________________ "We are the Ones we have been waiting for."
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"In Lak'ech"
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zero Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 1579
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| We already have ... after you advocated the shooting of a conscientious objector |
wait til you hear what i advocate doing to the detriot redwings......
firefly sees my point, we should leave no man out in the cold because they dont smoke weed. Its not respecting the rights of other humans to do what they want. as long as they dont come here talking about how we are wrong for smoking, I feel everyone should be indeed welcomed into our community.
Ive taken a different stance. I will not leave.
what i will do is petition to get this mandatory thing changed until one of the following happens.
I am either
a. excommunicated from the church and banned from the boards
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b. we strike the word mandatory from that sentence and welcome all. _________________ www.shoutwire.com
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Fyrefly1 Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Actually, if push came to shove someone could say that if you don't buy a Sanctuary Kit you can't become a member.
Hmmmmmm, sure glad that's not the case because then nobody in Europe or the rest of the world would qualify because why? They don't need it!
Actually, I'm not too sure about that but, you get the point??
 _________________ Fyrefly1
"All truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident."
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Stokes Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: PA
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:58 am Post subject: |
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In reality, nobody has Ever bought a kit.
They've simply received one in exchange for their donation to the ministry. _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where love is, there God is also.
-Mahatma Gandhi |
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Fyrefly1 Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:08 am Post subject: |
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"All truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident."
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ReverendCaveGrower Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:17 am Post subject: |
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b. we strike the word mandatory from that sentence and welcome all. |
that would fix it for the sake of this discusion.
But then that makes the defence worthless in court when they can throw in a defendants face "it is not mandated by your religion, you had the option not to break the law, Mrs. Smith"
I think it HAS to be a Mandate for the legal protection we all seek to be valid and legit. _________________ Reverend Cave Grower |
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Fyrefly1 Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I am either
a. excommunicated from the church and banned from the boards
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b. we strike the word mandatory from that sentence and welcome all. |
There's a third option...
That of your not taking the word "mandatory" literally.
I agree with Rev. Poole's and RCG's assertion that we need the word for that very reason: as a defense in court. However, it doesn't matter whether any one knows whether your member smokes or not, he just has to agree with the wording of the 'THC Statutes'. Besides, if he's a member of your ministry, isn't he also in the THC ministry...? Isn't your ministry part of the bigger ministry?
I think we're splitting hairs here with this argument about whether you have to smoke or not.
It's nobody's business what you do in the privacy of your own home...
Joe _________________ Fyrefly1
"All truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer, 19th Century Philosopher
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7295 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:48 am Post subject: |
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You guys are really funny.
Listen, we have this member who never smoked in her life and asked me if she could become a member because she really believes cannabis to be the "healer of the nations" and had the same question because she doesn't smoke and isn't planning to start smoking.
My answer to her was that we do not mandate "how" to use cannabis, for all I am concearned someone who has a cannabis/hemp Tshirt and wears that sometimes is "using" cannabis as well.
Of course, one can be as "tight up" with his/her religion as one wants to be, if you shoose to be a tight ass that's your own personal choise and it will be respected just as the ones who see it all a bit more sunny and chilled are respected.
I hope this answers your question.
And I wouldn't take the answers from cavegrower very serious, the man is in a learning process and asking questions himself all the time.
Please Cavegrower, refrein from answering questions concerning THC Ministry untill you know what it stands for and is about yourself.
A good advice is to listen to what people like Brother Ben, Chaz, firefly and other moderators can tell you, they have been around a few years already. _________________ █ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
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People who know truth, speak truth.
Those who don't, quote scriptures.
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Fyrefly1 Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Good answer....
I'll be keeping my eye on you.....
 _________________ Fyrefly1
"All truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident."
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Rev. Rodger L. Poole Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 480 Location: Im not here! Im where things HAPPEN.
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Ferre,
I liked your post.
I have a small bone to pick with you, though...lol ready?
You said that it doesnt say how we are to use Cannabis....I would have to say that I disagree.
It says we are to use Cannabis as a sacrament, and that we use it in private.
I dont think a hemp T-shirt is sacramental Cannabis. I believe the reason its states we must use it in private is because we are to partake of it, ingest it in some way....smoking it, eating it.......but I dont think wearing it is what was intended or implied.
What do you think of my view? _________________ Stop being a slave to Cannabis, and do something with your life! How much is smoking weed going to cost you before you will WAKE UP?
Put down the and pick up a book every once in a while for Pete's sake.
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