Is Global Warming The Biggest Threat to Civilization?

**aeroplane**

Is Global Warming The Biggest Threat to Civilization?

Forget about terrorism and oil wars as being the biggest threats to civilization, global warming is about to escalate exponentially, according to a Pentagon report from 2003.
http://www.grist.org/pdf/AbruptClimateChange2003.pdf

Meterologists consider this past week (21 - 28 august, 2005) one of the "strangest" on record as the largest hurricane on record in the Gulf of Mexico is about to strike Florida again but this time upgraded from a category 3 to a 4. While mega sized fires blaze across the drought partched lands of Portugal, which have not seen rain in over a year; relentless rains pummel most of SE Europe washing away ancient mountain villages and turning farm fields into lakes.
http://www.worldstorms.com/

Two years ago, an ice field about the size of Alaska broke off from the ice sheet covering Antartica. Scientists have said that nothing this large has broken off in 10,000 years. Permafrost in Siberia, Alaska, and Canada are thawing and releasing the greenhouse gas methan which is 10x more potent than carbon monoxide. Polar bears foraging for food are forced into contact with humans at an accellerating rate, putting the bears in danger of being terminated. The Gulf of Mexico has seen 11 hurricanes so far this season. The average is 4 at this point.

What are your beliefs about global warming? Is this the end? Was this "prophesied" about? Is this caused by the Hand of God? Or could this be the works of the hands of mankind? But most importantly what do you believe can be done to slow down, reduce, or possibly even stop global warming?

Maybe you don't believe in global warming, or you think it doesn't matter. Let's hear everyone's opinions!

Worldstorms.com is a good resource for anyone and I'll post their link here again. They have links to stories, news articles, sciences journals, and from their own reporters. The information is pretty much laid out for you to decide. (They also have links to various news sites that give an inside perspective behind the headline news.)
http://www.worldstorms.com/

If anyone else has more links to global warming issues, bring 'em on! Cool

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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject:

I have been a firm believer in global warming since I first heard of it. There is no doubt the climate is changing. There are those who would like to keep the panic at bay by saying there is no way to tell, but I believe they are just covering up the inevitable. Mankind will be the creator of his own destruction. Everything we do now produces heat.....even running our computers is pumping heat into the air... Add to that the gases that are constantly pumped into the atmosphere just by automobiles alone, and you've got a serious issue on your hands. That's without mentioning manufacturing.... I am a firm believer that the world is ALLREADY over-populated, and it will be dang hard to get people to give up all of the modern conveniences overnight in an effort to save ourselves. Nobody takes this stuff seriously. Just look at any big city's roadways. They are constantly choked by thousands of automobiles with gas jumping $1/gallon in one year's time... I really don't think there is a chance for turning back now....Our government lies right to people's faces, and they don't care even when they know it's a lie. The mentality of people today will be their un-doing.
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject:

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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:

Stokes · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:42 am Post subject:

Ye have little faith.

Laughing

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zero · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject:

What about the north atlantic current?

Did anyone else here see "the day after tommorow"? A chunk of ice broke off in that movie too, but not even close to as big as alaska. There were hurricanes initially. Could this be happening?

I know its just a movie, and hollywood has a way of making up shit, but works of fiction have a way of coming true.
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject:

zero · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject:

http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/currenttopics/climatechange_wef.html

About 12,700 years ago, as Earth emerged from the most recent ice age and began to warm, the Conveyor was disrupted. Within a decade, average temperatures in the North Atlantic region plummeted nearly 5° Celsius.

This cold period, known as the Younger Dryas, lasted 1,300 years. It is named after an Arctic wildflower. Scientists have found substantial evidence that cold-loving dryas plants thrived during this era in European and US regions that today are too warm. Deep-sea sediment cores show that icebergs extended as far south as the coast of Portugal. The Younger Dryas ended as abruptly as it began. Within a decade, North Atlantic waters and the regional climate warmed again to pre-Younger Dryas levels.

A similar cooling occurred 8,200 years ago. It lasted only about a century—a blip in geological time, but a catastrophe if such a cooling occurred today.

Scientific evidence concludes that if the north atlantic current is disrupted, we are all fucked.
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indicaspice · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:

**aeroplane** · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject:

Ever read about the "flash frozen" woolly mammoths uncovered in Siberia? About a decade ago scientists in Russia recovered at least one woolly mammoth buried in the Siberian permafrost. The mammoth had been consistantly frozen since the last Ice Age due to the fact that until recently, permafrost was just that, ground that never warmed enough to defrost.

The world's leading scientists observed or participated in the tests, which among other things found that the mammoth had frozen to death while grazing. It was found standing, encased in ice, and had undigested food in it's stomach.

Undigested food in the stomach? How could a large mammal, who is covered with a coat of long hair and accustomed to extreme winters, as was the woolly mammoth, be found dead from hypothermia? I mean, what kind of weather conditions does it take to freeze this animal to death while it's standing and eating?

There are stories circulating that the scientists celebrated by sharing a bit of mammoth steak because the meat was so fresh.
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zero · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:44 pm Post subject:

This whole situation could come to pass alot sooner than any of us expected.
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BroRo · Banned Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 85 Location: here

Hey folks, we're on the slippery slope if not into the abyss and oblivion but sure as hell into big CHANGES---it's the nature of the cosmos.

Whole worlds come and go, civilisations rise and fall, Nothing lasts. Dinosaurs, mammoths----human beings? Everybody will be hanging on to their crate in the flood. The sun sets only to rise on another world. Aeons of cataclysmic changes have preceded us---so what's a little bit of global warming on God's golfball?

I mean us more sensitive green types can do what we can to prevent it and respect mother earth but we are in the midst of inevitabilty, an inexorable momentum that can't now be stopped.

Geronimo! (as they say---a funny expression that) And he knew apocalypse intimately. He fought it but he had to go down. Karma, destiny.

I don't think I'm being fatalistic. The situation speaks for itself. It's too late. But nothing to get upset about. The majority of people are like drunken sailors dancing and singing on a slowly sinking ship---media hypnotised and tranced out by 'having' things....slaves to Mammon.

It can break your heart but we have to go through the grief and move on in consciousness.

What d'ya think?
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**Brother Adam** · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject:

I think that's very well said Rogerstanden. The part about drunken sailors dancing on a sinking ship hits the nail on the head for sure.

You also offer a positive idea to keep our conscious in check. Mother nature will soon cleanse herself of all the damage we have done, and she may cleanse herself of us at the same time, but should we be worried? Yes, to an extent....but then again, we really need to live for today and work on fullfilling our destiny while we are here in this life. I say do what you can to avoid destroying the world that sustains us....but don't linger on impending doom!
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zero · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:22 am Post subject:

the real question is............

would you rather die or live through this whole thing?
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