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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Iran to ban inspections if sent to UN Reply with quote

I have a really bad feeling about the US going to war with Iran. Its no longer a question of if but when. The us is alread in Iran seeking targets for an air strike.

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Iran to ban inspections if sent to UN


Friday 13 January 2006

Mottaki said Iran would end co-operation if referred to the UN


Iran says it will end voluntary co-operation with the United Nations over its nuclear programme, including snap checks of atomic sites, if Tehran was referred to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions.


Manouchehr Mottaki, the Iranian foreign minister, was quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying on Friday that his "government will be obliged to end all of its voluntary measures if sent to the UN council".

The United States and the European Union's three biggest powers said on Thursday talks with Iran to curb its nuclear programme were at an impasse and Tehran should be brought before the Security Council.

Accusing Iran of turning its back on the international community, the EU's big three, Britain, Germany and France, said it had consistently breached its commitments and failed to show the world that its nuclear activities were peaceful.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the foreign minister of Germany, said: "Our talks with Iran have reached a dead end."

His statement followed talks in Berlin with his British and French counterparts and Javier Solana, the European Union foreign policy chief.

A jpint statement from the so-called "EU3" countries said: "We believe the time has now come for the Security Council to become involved."

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, joined calls for an emergency meeting of the board of governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN nuclear watchdog, to seek a referral to the council, which can impose sanctions.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people have the balls to stand up against the machine. Not that the US has ever gotten rid of it's chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons anyway. pff
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iran Threatens Full-Scale Enrichment Work

VIENNA, Austria (AP) - Iran threatened to retaliate Thursday in the face of almost certain referral to the U.N. Security Council for its nuclear activities, and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said the dispute was "reaching a critical phase."

Ahead of a decision by the IAEA's 35-nation board, U.S. and European delegates turned to behind-the-scenes diplomacy to build the broadest possible support for reporting Iran to the council over concerns it is seeking nuclear weapons.

Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, in a letter made available to the AP, warned IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei that referral would leave Iran no choice but "to suspend all the voluntary measures and extra cooperation" with the IAEA - shorthand for reducing IAEA monitoring to a minimum.

Cuba, Venezuela, Syria and a few other nations at odds with Washington remained opposed to referral. India was said to be leaning toward supporting referral.

Diplomats accredited to the IAEA meeting said backing for Iran had shrunk among the U.N. nuclear watchdog's board since Russia and China swung their support behind referral at an overnight meeting with the United States, France and Britain - the other three permanent council members - that started Monday.

"There's a solid majority in favor of reporting," Gregory L. Schulte, the chief U.S. delegate to the IAEA, told The Associated Press. "There's even a more solid majority after Monday."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack the number of nations expected to vote against referral were in the "low to single digits."

Iran remained defiant. Larijani told ElBaradei that his country would severely curtail agency inspections and resume uranium enrichment if reported to the council.

Furthermore, "all the peaceful nuclear activities being under voluntary suspension would be resumed without any restriction," said the letter, suggesting a resumption of work on full-scale uranium enrichment - a possible pathway to nuclear arms.

Iran has made such threats before. What was significant this time, however, was that the warnings were in the form of a formal notification to the head of the IAEA.

As Thursday's meeting adjourned, U.S. and European diplomats intensified efforts to widen support for a European draft resolution calling for Iran to be brought before the council.

ElBaradei said there was a "window of opportunity" to defuse the crisis, stressing that even if the issue is referred, the Security Council would not take up the issue before next month.

"We are reaching a critical phase but it is not a crisis," he said.

Iran, which claims its program is peaceful and aimed only at generating electricity, has repeatedly warned that such action would provoke it into doing exactly what the world wants it to renounce - starting full-scale uranium enrichment - as well as curtailing IAEA inspections.

Key members of the Security Council remained unmoved.

Grigory Berdennikov, Russia's chief IAEA delegate, reinforced Moscow's position outside the meeting, saying referral to the Security Council would send Iran "a serious signal."

Schulte agreed.

"It is time to send a clear and unequivocal message to the Iranian regime about the concerns of the international community by reporting this issue to the Security Council," he said.

Washington has waited years for international suspicions over Iran's nuclear ambitions to translate into support among board nations.

Only a simple majority is needed to approve the text, but the United States and its backers have held off pushing for earlier referral in hopes of building support for the measure. Support has grown since Jan. 10, when Iran stripped IAEA seals from enrichment equipment and announced it would restart the program.

While a broad majority of member nations support referral, a few countries that have policy disputes with Washington remain opposed - among them Cuba, Venezuela, Syria and Belarus.

"My delegation manifests its total disagreement with the proposal ... to bring it to the Security Council," said Venezuela's Gustavo Marques Marin. And Syria's Safwan Ghanem told reporters: "We will vote 'no.'"

A vote was expected Friday or Saturday. Countries opposed have the choice of voting against the text or abstaining.

Speaking for Germany, Britain and France - the three nations representing the European Union - German chief delegate Herbert Honsowitz told the meeting: "The time now has come for the Security Council to get involved."

The confidential draft resolution obtained by the AP "requests the director general to report to the Security Council" on steps Iran needs to take to dispel international suspicion it could be seeking to manufacture nuclear arms.

The draft expresses "serious concerns about Iran's nuclear program" and notes "the absence of confidence that Iran's nuclear program is exclusively for peaceful purposes."

If the board approves referral as expected, it will launch a protracted process that could end in Security Council sanctions for Tehran.

But no action is expected for weeks, if not months. Moscow and Beijing support referral only on condition that the council do nothing until at least March, when the board next meets to review the status of an IAEA inquiry into Iran's nuclear program and recommends further action.

"I am making very clear that the Security Council is not asked at this stage to take any action," ElBaradei said.

Berdennikov also told reporters that Russia "insists" no Security Council action be taken before March.

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060203/D8FHEV0GC.html
By GEORGE JAHN
Associated Press Writer Palma Benczenleitner contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long do you think it will be before Bush invades Iran?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That the USA planned to go to war with Iran has been obvious and very clear since the day they invaded Iraq, I have been saying that all the time.

The USA has its own agenda, along with Israel.

THEY WILL BOMB IRAN, whatever happens, even if Iran would NOT have any nuclear plans, they would find another excuse, it's a matter of finding an excuse, it's not a matter of Iran being a danger, they wouldn't care less if Iran is a danger or not, Iran has OIL.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iraq allowed U.N. inspectors (who found nothing) to go anywhere and everywhere in 2003, including military bases, governmental buildings and Saddam's palaces. Look what cooperation got Iraq.

The U.S. wouldn't allow international observes to monitor the 2004 election in Ohio. It was an infringement of sovereignty, said the U.S.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny J wrote:
Iraq allowed U.N. inspectors (who found nothing) to go anywhere and everywhere in 2003, including military bases, governmental buildings and Saddam's palaces. Look what cooperation got Iraq.

The U.S. wouldn't allow international observes to monitor the 2004 election in Ohio. It was an infringement of sovereignty, said the U.S.

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Thats a good one Laughing

Iran is cooperating but the media is assisting Bush with spinning things his way trying to make Iran into a threat. If you notice the other story I posted about Bush seeking $70 billion dollars for Iraq and Afghanistan could this actually be money for going into Iran????

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tafari wrote:
Bush seeking $70 billion dollars for Iraq and Afghanistan could this actually be money for going into Iran????

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I have no doubt.

Theoretically, Congress has the power of the purse. But once Son of Sam gets that money, he will spend it as he pleases. And Congress won't object.

They're eager to try out their bunker busters on real targets, and people. They're bored with their old toys such as D.I., cluster bombs, white phosphorus, etc., and want to play with something new.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, they don't mind using nuclear waste to contaminate the area for centuries, they proved that in Iraq.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frist says military action a posssibility against Iran

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Saturday night that the United States must be prepared to take military action against Iran if nonviolent means don't deter the country from building nuclear weapons.

Iran has said it wants to enrich uranium only to make nuclear fuel for generating electricity. But concerns that it might misuse the technology led the International Atomic Energy Agency on Saturday to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council.

The United States has long advocated Security Council action against Iran, including possible political and economic sanctions, which have not yet occurred.

Asked whether Congress had the political will to use military force against Iran if necessary, First said: "The answer is yes, absolutely."

"We cannot allow Iran to become a nuclear nation," Frist told reporters at the Missouri GOP's annual Lincoln Days conference. "We need to use diplomatic sanctions. If that doesn't work, economic sanctions, and if that doesn't work, the potential for military use has to be on the table."

Frist also defended a program in President Bush's administration that allowed the government to eavesdrop, without warrants, on international calls and e-mails in the United States that were believed to be terrorist-related.

As Senate majority leader, the Tennessee senator said he was one of eight people in Congress who were "fully briefed" on the program. He said Democrats who criticize it do so at their own political peril.

"The program is constitutional, it is lawful and it is absolutely imperative for the safety and security of people in Missouri and people around this country," Frist said.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the thing, US officials said that "IF" Iran where to go forward with trying to make a Nuclear bomb it would take them 5-10 years Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok.so why dosn't Iran just say "we will get rid of ours when you get rid of yours.

the brits are already beating the war drums and gearing up to attack yet another sovereign nation.

MI6 have been caught red - handed planting bombs in Iran.

brother Tafari is right.attacking Iran will be one of the biggest mistakes in history.

they will fight to the last man , woman and child to defend their homeland.

Israel has already stated that if nobody else attacks the Iranian nuclear facilities , they will do so themselves.

like brother Tafari , i have a bad feeling about this whole thing.

PEACE ....i hope!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wish that Iran could see how it's being played like a pon in a chess game, allowing itself to be pressured into playing Russian roulette. If Iran understood this, then they could decide not to do anything that might suggest any ill behavior. By simply doing nothing, Iran could take the rattle out of Amerikkka's sabers, there by avoiding any "legitimate" excuse for an attack.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aeroplane wrote:
I just wish that Iran could see how it's being played like a pon in a chess game, allowing itself to be pressured into playing Russian roulette. If Iran understood this, then they could decide not to do anything that might suggest any ill behavior. By simply doing nothing, Iran could take the rattle out of Amerikkka's sabers, there by avoiding any "legitimate" excuse for an attack.


Isn't that what Sadam was doing? Iran can see just as clear as anyone else that Israel and America are going to attack them anyway, and whatever it takes.

As if they didn't see that coming, Remember it was America that financed Saddam to attack Iran in the first place, it has always been the one that was attacking Iran, first from within, using the CIA and covert operations to get the Sjah in power and later supporting Sadam to attack it when the Sjah wqas removed and the Ayatollha had the power, the same Ayatolla who was helped by the same CIA covert operations to replace the Sjah, now where's the logic in that? No one seems to remember how odd it was that Ajatollha Khomeiny suddenly came "out of nowhere" and had all the media attention that was needed, in only a few weeks time, no one seem to have done a background check on those events, wel, hardly anyone, a few people did. Like no one seems to remember a lot of other fundamentalistic Isllamitic groups that have been funded by the CIA/USA, the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden are only a few of them.

Whatever Iran does it simply doesn't matter, America and Israel will find an excuse to attack it and everyone can see that. Specially the people in Iran .
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isn't that what Sadam was doing? Iran can see just as clear as anyone else that Israel and America are going to attack them anyway, and whatever it takes....

...Whatever Iran does it simply doesn't matter, America and Israel will find an excuse to attack it and everyone can see that. Specially the people in Iran .


I'm not arguing against either of your points, brother Ferre. I wholly agree. But if Iran goes any further, what would be the point? To ensure that the USA has "reason" to attack? Or is it to prove that they had the balls to spit on Georgies blue suede shoes before being annihilated?

We have a bunch of drunk monkies at the helm of the WH who have itchy trigger fingers just looking for an excuse to use nukes as a first option.

I mean, quite frankly one might suspect that if Iran does nothing at all, those monkies in the WH & Pentagon might just destroy an American city and blame it on Iran and Syria and whomever else they want. But why give them reason to nuke you by playing the shell game?
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