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sushil_yadav
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| merlingfx wrote: |
I was listening to the the "Tree of Knowledge" tapes today, the lectures from Terrence McKenna, and he brings up an interesting point.
We are comming quickly towards a a time where we will have to make a decision. On the one hand, we can decide that the Earth is the 'mother' and take care of her in her old age, slowing down science and industrialzation and returning to a more simpler living as you propose. On the other hand, we may decide that the world is not the mother, but rather the placenta, to be drained of its nutrients and discarded when humanity is ready to transcend its earthly habitat.
It blew me away when I heard it. Its an amazing proposition, perhaps 'this is it', in which case we certainly need to protect and heal mother Earth. While it may also be that the Earth was only ever meant to be a stepping stone for us, the cocoon that was meant to provide and protect us as fragile as we use it for all its worth to transform ourselves into whatever we are to become, breaking free from its constraints and casting it aside.
The particularly mind boggling part of it all is its a coin toss. Either we must cast aside technology and re-focus our efforts toward nature and conservation, or we must go full ahead with technology and make sure we make it to whatever we are destined before Earth hits it's expiration date... (2012 speculation anyone?)
I found the lectures/tapes im MP3 format here for anyone interested: http://www.globaljustice.ca/media/docs/terence%20mckenna%20-%20tree%20of%20knowledge/
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merlingfx,
So far Man has not been able to go beyond the Moon. Outside the solar system, planets and galaxies are millions of light years away - billions of light years away. Setting up home on another planet is not realistic at all. We should take care of our present home.
Industrial Society is destroying necessary things [Animals, Trees, Air, Water and Land] for making unnecessary things [Consumer Goods].
When we make consumer goods we kill Animals/ Trees, Air/ Water and Land - directly or indirectly.
Industrial Society destroys ecosystems - all Industrial Societies destroy ecosystems.
It hardly matters whether it is "Capitalist Industrial Society" - "Communist Industrial Society" - or "Socialist Industrial Society".
Industrial Society destroys ecosystems at every stage of its functioning - when consumer goods are produced - when consumer goods are used - when consumer goods are discarded/ recycled.
Raw material for industry is obtained by cutting up Forests. It is extracted by mining/ digging up the earth. It comes by destroying/ killing Trees, Animals and Land.
Industries/ Factories use Water. The water that comes out of Factories is contaminated with hundreds of toxic chemicals. Industry kills Water. What to speak of Rivers - entire Oceans have been polluted.
Industry/ Factories burn millions of tonnes of fuel and when raw material is melted/ heated up, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into the atmosphere. Industry kills Air.
Industrial Society has covered millions of square miles of land with cement and concrete. Industry kills Land.
When consumer goods are discarded/ thrown away in landfills it again leads to destruction of ecosystems.
When consumer goods are recycled, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into air, water and land.
Consumer goods are sold/ marketed through a network of millions of kilometers of rail / road network and shipping routes which causes destruction of all ecosystems that come in the way.
"Growth Rate" - "Economy Rate" - "GDP"
These are figures of "Ecocide".
These are figures of "crimes against Nature".
These are figures of "destruction of Ecosystems".
These are figures of "Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality".
sushil_yadav
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sushil_yadav
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| Fyrefly1 wrote: |
Very interesting concepts Sushil....actually, rather enlightening in many ways.
are you suggesting that society dump intellectual evolution or are you just making a point for your research? |
Fyrefly1,
Humans have spent more than 99% of their time on earth in non-industrial societies.
Non-industrial society destroys ecosystems for food, clothing and shelter.
Industrial society destroys ecosystems for food, clothing and shelter plus thousands of unnecessary consumer goods.
Industrial society destroys necessary things - animals, trees, air, water and land for making unnecessary things - consumer goods.
Non-industrial societies have sustained on earth for thousands of years.
Industrial society has destroyed all ecosystems within 200 - 250 years.
"Growth Rate" - "Economy Rate" - "GDP"
These are figures of "Ecocide".
These are figures of "crimes against Nature".
These are figures of "destruction of Ecosystems".
These are figures of "Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality".
Destroy consumerism......before it is too late.
Destroy Industrial Society......before it is too late.
Just do it.
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sushil_yadav
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| Brother Adam wrote: |
| I tend to believe we can change too. I actually believe change is inevitable. Mankind is slowly and painfully undergoing an enlightenment. It starts with the few though....and this is where articles like those above come from. |
Brother Adam,
It is highly amazing that people have taken for granted a lifestyle that has barely existed for 50 - 100 years.
People started thinking "this is the way to live".
This is not the way to live - This is the way to die.
Humans have spent more than 99% of their time on earth in non-industrial societies.
Industrial Society has destroyed necessary things[animals, trees, air, water and land] for making unnecessary things[consumer goods].
People who are going for infinite growth and development on a small planet [whose circumference is just 40,000 km] are insane, abnormal and criminal.
In the context of Industrial Society someone has said :
"It is like adding extra floors to your building by removing bricks from the lower floor/ foundation."
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