Hating America

Romadon · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject: Hating America

I must say folks, this man O'Reilly really pisses me off at times but there are many times i can agree with him also. I will not personally endorse or disagree with any of the following quoted statements. As O'Reilly says, "You decide".

Just remember to keep it pithy. And no bloaviating, that's my job. Razz

**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:33 am Post subject:

LOL, I'm not going there. rofl

...well, on second thought, I will only add this to the conversation:
http://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2100

Rolling Eyes

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kytaira · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:37 am Post subject:

Its a good thing thats just the opinion of a bunch of teenagers......French teens no less...damn frenchies...LOL...j/k. I highly doubt thats the opinion of the masses. At least not mine. I have met to many a***oles from too many different countries to lay all the evil on the good ol' U S of A. LOL

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**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:

This mr Bill O'Reilly sure knows how to use the same misinformation the US government likes to refere to. A little read about American history by others who are maybe a little less living in denial can add a few facts here:

**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject:

Another little thingie some people don't "want" to know about:

Romadon · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject:

I totally agree with most of what you say in most of your posts Ferre except that I believe you are missing some very important pieces of information which makes the American people's problems much more complicated than they may appear. First of all the fact that somewhere in our constitution it makes a statement about our government being created by the people and for the people. It would be very nice and convenient if we as a people could just lay all our problems on a few at the top but this is seldom the case here. As you know we already have had at least one major Civil War in this country where we had brother fighting against brother, which supposedly was fought to free the black slaves, (but there is a differant take on that story also). We as a nation are almost always divided right down the middle on the issues with seemingly irreconcilable differences. Yes we American people as a whole have a lot to answer for but too many are still looking for scapegoats (probably me included) to shoulder at least some of the blame for them espescially given the fact many of us have a hard time to keep from killing members of our own families and very often this does happen here. I am not saying as a whole we are a people who love violence but much of the time (sad and sorry to say) we seem to find no other way to settle our differances. We can also be a very vindictive people if any of our familly or friends have been harmed. So much so that many of us here feel the so-called perpetrators of many violent crimes to be the real victims or creations of our own sick society. Of coarse we really need to start from the beginning as to how we screwed over the Native American Indians. That old saying the buck stops here, or the latest one, the spin stops here, is very seldom if ever true.

sibannac · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 456

When are the original native americans going to get the retributions for the genocide carried out on them by the american government in the past.
When are they going to be paid a fair price for their land that was stolen from them when are they going to get payment for all the OIL stolen from them???
I have met quite a few americans and have found them to be utterly decent people shame the same cannot be said for their government!!
Its the government actions that sway the opinion of the world against the american people perhaps there is method in their madness look what they have been allowed to do to the rights of the ordinary american???

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Lilli · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject:

Do you all not realise that we here are of european decent? Except the negros and the natives, I myself am Dutch, Irish, Welsh and English.... I did not ask to be born here. My ancestors broke away from england for religious freedom. None of us can request where we are born.

I personaly am sick an tired of the american bashing if some of us werent activly trying to change things would we be here on this site?

Come on people smile on your brother

Love is but a song we sing
and fear's the way we die,
You can make the mountains ring
or make the angels cry

,
Tho' the bird is on the wing
and you may not know why.

C'mon people, now
smile on your brother,
ev'ry-body get together,
try to love one another right now.

Some will come and some will go
and we shall surely pass
When the one that left us here
returns for us at last
We are but a moments sunlight
fading in the grass.

C'mon people, now
smile on your brother,
ev'ry-body get together,
try to love one another right now.

If you hear the song I sing
you will understand
You hold the key to love and fear
in your trembling hand
Just one key unlocks them both,
it's there at your command.

C'mon people, now
smile on your brother,
ev'ry-body get together,
try to love one another right now.
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Romadon · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject:

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**Ferre** · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:06 am Post subject:

I do not see anyone "bashing the American people" Lilli, I see a lot of bashing the corrupted nazi criminals who bought themselves into the US administration but those same fascists are oppressing the American people BIG TIME so why bash on people who are victims them selves?

No one hates "Americans" but there are many who have very good reasons to dislike "America", I guess even half of the Americans do. No offence.
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Lilli · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:11 am Post subject:

Well sometimes it feels like us good ones are thrown in with the bad. We arnt liking things thats being done any more then the rest of you guys.
Thats why we carry signs with this address on it.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:36 am Post subject:

Sister, for years now I help out with the American people who dislike the government just as much as any other person who knows the real facts of their criminal behaviour.

Because of working side by side with people like you Lilli and Chaz and Roger, Tim Castleman, Laced, Cris Ericson and many, many others for years now I do know the difference between the people who are aware of the situation and "the ignorant ones", as I call them sometimes.

The ignorant ones are the ones that make it possible for the government to scew it up for all the rest and in most cases they're are not even aware they are "the ignorant ones", they are misinformed that's all and sometimes even they are too 'afraid' to speak out their mind.

Another fact is that it isn't even "the US government" who is to blaime, it's a global problem we people are facing. Multinational cooperatives bought the power in America and "America" is only used because it is big enough as a tool for them to go for the rest.

Nearly every government on this planet is corrupted by the same multinationals and gets money from them to support their cause, wich isn't ours, the people. We are all on the same side Lilli.
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sibannac · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 456

There is a growing opinion in the uk that Bush Blair etc are Masonic Members which would explain a lot??
I for one as i have previously mentioned find the American People decent loving and caring ( well the ones i've met are) and am aware that all countries have their share of bad people. Trust me the UK has its fair share. Its the american politicians not the american people that give america the bad reputation it has. We in the uk are still making apologies for things our ancestors did centuries ago in africa the middle east asia etc etc.

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Lilli · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject:

Thanks for putting it delicatly. There were 240 some million ppl here during the last election. 24 million some voted. They are the very ones that see news footage of Bush going to church on Sunday and who refuse to believe the Skull an Bones is more then a college fun club.

The Skull an Bones is running the United States and trying to take over the world. Ushering in the NEW WORLD ORDER.Right under Americans noses. The stupid Government officials havnt even read the patriot act they just sign our libertys away.

It hurts to KNOW these things and be the brunt of hatred everywhere. My neighbors are good people. We are good people The people across the street are good people. And so on and so on. All I know is basicaly GOOD people in a BAD situation brought about by EVIL politicians acting like CHRISTIANS.

THEY (tHE GOVERNMENT) ARE HOLDING THE GOOD PEOPLE OF AMERICA HOSTAGE TO THEIR EVIL DEEDS OPRESSIONS AND REPUTATIONS. Mad

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sibannac · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 456

Lilli sister i couldn't have put it better myself it's the same here in the uk.

banana

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