God, Spirit, Nature, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, or ?

RogerChristie

Hello friends,

Aloha. It's full moon on planet Earth, March 24th, 2005 as I write this. Take an extra big, deep breath and be renewed in this very moment you are reading it. Give thanks. Ahhhhhhhh.......

This is a very beautiful, magical and troubled world we are priviledged to live in. There are mysterious powers and forces that all of us feel and experience, to one degree, or another. That Creation 'force' is called by many names depending on where one was born, and on what each of us chooses to believe. As far as I can tell, it's the very same 'force' with an infinite number of names.

God, Spirit, Nature, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha ... and on and on and on ...

My good friend, Paul von Hartmann, has possibly the best way to describe "It". Paul says, "THE-GREAT-YOU-NAME-IT". Doesn't that cover the subject in the very best manner? Doesn't that honor virtually everyone's personal choice of this Supreme naming? I think so. It puts the individual decision right in your hands where it belongs. Call "It" whatever you desire!

A young friend said to me the other day that he feels like "God is the hub and we are all the spokes on the wheel." Well, yeah. That's one positive and non-judgemental way to describe "It".

Remember the metaphore of blind people feeling an elephant? They all might have different descriptions of the VERY SAME THING. That's what language is. Different words for THE VERY SAME THING. Everyone is correct and right when we respect the individual's free will choice. There is only one 'thing' here, just billions of ways of expressing it. It's all "God".

Here we are 'together' in cyber-space temporarily linking our minds at the "THC Ministry" because we all share an interest in cannabis spirituality.
We are members, guests or visitors here. We are either here voluntarily, or we are paid to be here for some 'other' reason. I think those are the only two ways of visiting this site and I'm good with that. Welcome, whoever you are, wherever you are. "You are safe and you are loved. All is well."

As this ministry develops I (and we) need to make decisions and choices of language, policy and more in order to succeed with our shared mission and our individual lives. Sometimes it will be easy and sometimes it will be more challenging. Sometimes it might even be painful, as we've witnessed and experienced in the last few days. "God, that's GREAT! Please show me the blessings in this situation ... and hurry!"

That phrase has even more meaning right now as we adjust both our websites and the beautiful, living human beings who assist here. The ministry is my creation and is ultimately my responsibility. As in other areas of my life, I succeed and I fail. I'm conscious and I'm unconscious. I'm imperfectly perfect! Hallelujah!

I'm looking for the blessings in our 'growing pains' right now, as a matter of fact. No matter what happens, please know that I really love you and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for being here. Mahalo.

All the very best to you and yours,

Roger

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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Roger , Thank you are beautiful,

have a Happy Easter and a wonderful spring time everyone!

sun

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“When one is connected above,’’ he said
quietly, “he does not fall below.”
OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK...

Echo · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject:

Happy week-end to all! Very Happy

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rev.Sean · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:

We could all learn a lot from crayons.
Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box.

PEACE happy Easter

rev.Sean · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject:

I think what people fail to remember, is that in the beginning and end, there is only one that created it all. Who is right? Why Fight? Senseless....
One God, One Higher Power, One Mother, One Father, its all the same in a different name

I like how this was expressed

"As teach astronomers Abraham-Isreal-Moses-Buddah-Hillel-Jesus-Spinoza-Paine-Sagan & Mohammed, Inspired every 76 years, 6000 years by the Messenger of God's Law, the Messiah, Halley's Comet: "WE'RE ALL ONE OR NONE!" "THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD!" "TEACH LOVE THEY ENEMY!" "LISTEN CHILDREN ETRNAL FATHER ETERNALLY ONE!" Isreal-Moses-Buddah-Jesus-Mohammed: ONE! ALL-ONE!"

---- Dr Bronner (the soap guy)

PEACE

Damrak_lost_wanderer · getting into high spirits Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 2

Can we teach a insect, like a Ant the laws of atomic energy?, our human brains tell us "No No a little ant haven't got the capability to know the teachings in the laws of atomic energy".

We are little (generally speaking) , and we cannot know the great wonders/reasons of life and death our species can debate this to the end of the know physical universe and we would never know the answers as we are not capable in knowing.
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If someone says "Its good for you" they are probably from the Brotherhood.

Stokes · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject:

We must be 'someone's' insects then.

Very interesting ... and Welcome to THC.

I love your avatar!

Stokes
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Where love is, there God is also.

-Mahatma Gandhi

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:

Dr Bronner...I love that guy!

The soap that RANTS... Laughing

....been around for years.

Bliss,
Ben
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"We are the Ones we have been waiting for."
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"In Lak'ech"
~ Ancient Mayan: "I am another YOU." ~

seeker · getting into high spirits Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 2

Stokes · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:34 am Post subject:

Hi Seeker, and welcome.

There is so much here to learn, it's incredible.

I came here about 4 months ago with a rather indifferent outlook on mostly all religions ... as it turns out, I've spent quite a bit of time reading the bible and helped to purchase one that is 150 years old - things I'd never expected to happen 5 months ago.

On top of all this ... I believe that I've figured out that my spiritual beliefs most closely resemble that of the Hindu faith - another shocker!

Never underestimate the power of religious guidance in the THC ministry, you just might find many of your questions being answered at this very forum.

peace and love to you,

Stokes sun

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Where love is, there God is also.

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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

in my opinion the violence in the first testament , is a reminder of the negetive side of a human being, cruel and greed are things we should learn to recognize and control, to gain awareness that is.
to grow to the state of love and peace there must be first that recognition
that humans are not only about love and peace, but more complex then that.

awareness comes first before love,that what I'm trying to say. Wink

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“When one is connected above,’’ he said
quietly, “he does not fall below.”
OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK...

Guest · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject: turn off, tear up, turn green..

..i cant say ive ever been too keen on the God of the old testament myself.. It always seemed a bit of an evil tyrant to me.. lots of wrathfull vengence and punishing people.. i particullary felt uncomfortable when It got someone to make a human sacrifice of their son, only at the last moment to say - its ok, you dont have to do it really, i was just testing you..
i am much happier with the God of Love and forgiveness in the new testament..
i have recently been reading the Gnostic catechism, on the net, and i felt it sit very comfortably in my heart centre.
it has a great - cosmic philosophy.. part of which is that the being who helped create this world was not the supreme being himself, but his right hand man, so to speak. this being became so infused with its own power that it felt equal to the One, and was cast down to walk the Earth.. It has now forgoten its true nature and believes that it is the One and only God. That there was no other before It. This demi god goes by differant names in differant religions. the most common one in the west is - Satan. It feeds on evil/negative emotions/actions - and human sacrifice.. which still goes on today - in the highest circles on the planet. i am sure you are all aware of the goings on at Bohemian Grove. - if not look it up. .. the ancient demon/ god Moloc is alive and well - and running planet earth..
Let us all continue to spread the loving green vibration and resist the New World Order at every corner.
Turn off your TV, tear up your newspapers. The late great Tim Leary said- the people who controll the media controll your mind..
It is the NWO that are behind the whole media/entertainment industry.
We are being fed propaganda thats creates a picture of what the world is suposed to be like. but we are only shown all the bad stuff. the wars , murders etc.. creating an image of a hellish world.. That only our great leaders can protect us from.. the politics of fear. - a lot of Orwells 1984 rings true these days. By switching off you will enter a different world. A world of love. A world where there is no war. - unless you live there. There is a lot to be said for the saying - Ignorance is bliss. I understand a little knowledge of world affairs will always be of interest to some, but the news you need to really know about will reach you, without having the whole media propaganda circus floating round in your mind. We are litterally being brainwashed into buying certain products, and what is right and what is wrong.
Thankfully i personally believe that Jesus will be returning to earth soon.
According to the Mayans something very big is going down in 2012..
I spent a few months in Mexico and Guattamala last year exploring the pyramids and philosophy , but its not clear just to what the Mayans predicted.. but the end of time as we know it will be completly changed.
By putting my faith in Jesus i have nothing to loose , but so very much to gain.
Weed me up Scotty..
peter

sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

at the end of the day , it is not what you watch or read , but what you do with it, in the practice.

if you don't know there is war how can you be against it ?
if you don't know Bush had stollen the election ... then how would you know
he is the anti christ...?

if you know that the media is a brainwashing device, then you can protect
yourself from it. but not knowing will not protect you, I think.

The first testament show us what kind of assholes we can become if...
and be aware of it.

the second testament show us what we can choose for.

I'm just guessing ... I never read those books anyways, I'm an anarchist Humanist and dyslectic. but I have the feeling for interpertations
without discrimination.

Laughing

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“When one is connected above,’’ he said
quietly, “he does not fall below.”
OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK...

seeker · getting into high spirits Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 2

thank you for the replies and for the love. I have so many questions and have been told "what" to think for so long that i've come full circle and desire to make up my own mind about what I think and why. I like to research for the answers.

Before cannabis came a part of my life, I was so sheltered from life. I lived how others said I should live. I didn't think for myself for the most part.

I denounced god and claimed to be an atheist and started to partake of cannabis. My life changed dramatically. However, i don't think I was ever a "true" atheist but more as I've said "a non-bible believer".

Cannabis opened up a whole new world to me. people full of love and kindness (and of course assholes) but not only that I began to become very creative with my writings, life seemed more beautiful - I appreciated it so much more, I was in touch with the person inside me more but most importantly, I am loved by someone with their mind. I can actually sense when they are near and communicate with them on some level.

I'm not weird or crazy or insane - cannabis opens me up to a brand new world and new friends. my friends are the greatest. they have so much love for me and are kind and caring once accepted into the family.

My problem stems from a "sin" point of view. I want to know I can enjoy the herb and all it offers with a daily "forgive me father" sort of speech. that I can enjoy LIFE - as long as Im not harming anyone - without the "forgive me father" speech.

I so want to believe in a creation type of God - as for other religions, since Im only familiar with one, I'd have a lot of reading to do. I will say that I don't agree with modern organized religion.

however, the two ministers I mentioned almost seem like they are on the same plane as myself and with similar views as mine. Life should be enjoyed and I agree - turn the TV off. I watch little tv as not much of it interests me.

As a newcomer, I know I am spilling alot but that first post was like I just had to do it and get it out because if I didn't, I might not ever do it.

My friends are really like angels - i've received so much love from cannabis cyberspace friends that it totally amazes me and helps to make me a new person.

Cannabis,imo, helps to release the person inside of us.

Love and peace and thanks for reading and/or responding.

Don Quixote · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:17 am Post subject:

hello seeker
as a fellow member i would like to say welcome.
you are already emarked on the road to enlightenment because you stopped to ponder lifes supreme mysteries.

unlike most people today you took the time out to think and find the truth.that proves you are on the right road and your heart is in the right place

if you dont look for the truth you will never find it.
seek and you will find.
dont seek and you wont find

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and i shall be brave like my brother the bear
swift like my brother the hawk
and wise like my brother the wolf