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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in 1968 during 'nam we were learning how extensive this war machine really was.

It's sick when you realize how many people: American, Vietnamese, French etc. were killed, maimed, tortured had their lives ruined, etc....not to mention the children because our country needed to make sure that our sources for bauxite remained intact so that we wouldn't run out of aluminum.

We are being run by a gov't with no conscience save whatever justifications they choose to lie to us with...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fyrefly1 wrote:
We are being run by a gov't with no conscience save whatever justifications they choose to lie to us with...


US? wow.. I think you probably have an innumerable amount of examples just like that one.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Two years later John Kennedy lay dead and the Wartime Economy ran amuck. The profits were enormous.


Funny you should mention that. Brother TS Rev and I was discussing where it all went wrong this very morning.. I think after they killed Kennedy they knew they could get away with anything.


Yes. That is my feeling, as well. They knew they could tell us anything, and be met with little-to-no real resistance.

When I speak of profits, I'm not thinking just in terms of stereotypical greedy fat-cats...like the cartoon guy on the Monopoly box...

Our ECONOMY is dependant upon war. Dependant.

A lot of average, hard-working, honest "small" folks are going to be devastated...if we choose to make the necessary transition to peace the hard way.

We don't have to do it the hard way...but...when I look around...

On a brighter side....I'm always surpised...usually grocery store encounters, etc...I'm always surprised by the number of folks from all walks of life who are beginning to grasp the Big Picture.

There is hope. We must think in terms of hope.

Peace...Justice...a New Paradigm..."New Heaven and a New Earth"...in reasonable and relative terms... will, eventually, arise.

This is where I personally need to focus...to maintain my vision of the world as I know it should be, rather than to expend my energy bemoaning the messy road that will be travelled getting there.

Where attention goes, energy flows. What we focus on, expands in our experience of personal and collective reality.

In order for there to be a world of relative peace, tolerance and justice, we must first VISION it.

Sufi Poet, Rumi wrote:
Come. Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come. Even though you have broken your vow ten thousand times. Come.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sufi Poet, Rumi wrote:
Come. Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come. Even though you have broken your vow ten thousand times. Come.



Thats beautiful
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order for there to be a world of relative peace, tolerance and justice, we must first VISION it.


one thing I took away in studying the Church of Scientology was the idea that to succeed at any task, you must first invision that sucess in your mind. Postulate's (SP?) are the most powerfull tool our mind can create from nothing more than thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a thing on war.

"I'll never forget the Death Star...but I'll never forget the day after it, either." (Luke Skywalker battles a storm trooper in the aftermath of the destruction of the Death Star, only to discover that, beneath the impersonal mask, lies a boy no older than himself. Not a radical scene, but it spoke more about the reality of war in a single comicbook than in any of George Lucas' multi-billion dollar grossing motion pictures -- "The Day After the Death Star" Star Wars, Marvel Illustrated Book, vol. 1, Archie Goodwin)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReverendCaveGrower wrote:
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In order for there to be a world of relative peace, tolerance and justice, we must first VISION it.


one thing I took away in studying the Church of Scientology was the idea that to succeed at any task, you must first invision that sucess in your mind. Postulate's (SP?) are the most powerfull tool our mind can create from nothing more than thought.


Yep. Thought is energy. Thought is creative. Everything begins as a thought.

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