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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IntrepidEZJ wrote:


... I'm just waiting for the willing to stand up so I can express my creative ideas and combine them with others.


Sometimes it can feel a bit like some of our suggestions go unnoticed ... but, Never forget that every time you post an idea on these forums it is being looked at and considered by those who make the decisions.

You might also consider joining this forum and posting your innovative ideas there: http://thc-ministry.org/forum/index.php

Keep the good ideas coming, IntrepidEZJ.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Greetings Reply with quote

Hi again all.

I agree intrepid keep the thoughts coming. I too become frustrated at times. But this is a great group. I feel privileged to discuss all this here.

I just checked out the Hebrew discussed by Sula Benet again in the Strongs accordance. It is dead on. For those of you not familiar with Benets research, it is available online in a reprint:

Benet, Sula; 'Early Diffusions and Folk Uses of Hemp,' in 'CANNABIS AND CULTURE,' Vera Rubin Editor, (The Hague: Moutan 1975 ). Benetowa, Sara, [Sula Benet] ...

The Kaneh or Qaneh and bosm is two separate words. Bosem represents an odor or sweet smelling, or fragrance. One guy suggested in another forum that the seed was used in the Holy Oil. However seed has virtually no smell. I suggested it would have had to be the bud of the plant.

Personally after my research on this, I am convinced that at some point in the Jewish Temple Calamus was used and likely was the basis for the mistranslation. There are several references in Jewish writings to the temple being absent of flies. Calamus is in fact deadly to flies. It is very poisonous to people also. Modern references refer to calamus being capable of killing a dog. Kaneh-Bosem likely was associated with the worship of Ashura on high hills and was removed. The temple priests were murdered at that time as well.

Vendal Jones in fact found some Temple Oil and reference was made that when burnt, flies and spiders fled. The ingredients of the Oil was never released, though Vendal Jones made a statement to a student that cannabis was not found in the oil. Vendal refused to speak to me.

I am convinced Cannabis was used in the earliest Jewish Temple and by Moses. It took a while for me to connect the dots to the early Christian use of Cannabis in the oil. There is a reference to the anointing Oil in one of the Gnostic Texts as having the power of the Soma which is now documented to contain cannabis. In addition to the healing properties of the oil, in the book of acts, at the Pentecost, reference is made to these people being drunk. If the Oil was burnt on the incense they would have likely looked red eyed or drunk.

Certainly if calamus was used in the oil for healing it would have worsened open lesions, and has none of the curative properties of cannabis. Additionally the Father of John the Baptist was Zacharias who was in charge of the Temple Oil and incense at that time. If the holy oil was changed in any way it would have been widely known and likely kept underground for fear of death. Jesus also refers to the texts of Zoroaster whose use of Haoma or Soma is well documented. Zoroaster is the basis of many concepts of Christianity including the concept of Heaven and Hell.

Personally I think Zoroaster was the Prophet Daniel though that would be strongly debated. I base this on references suggesting it was the same king, and I have a 300 AD Gnostic text which is a letter to a Greek which states "I Zoroaster am also known by Hebrews as the prophet Daniel." Certainly not conclusive but very interesting, especially based on the references by Jesus to his texts and the presence of the Zostrianos text with in the Nag Hammadi.

I give you all this because I really never went into all this in the film or my website. As Roger suggests we need to cut through the BS. However there is so much here I was not able to bring it to the film. So perhaps this is just a little extra for all of you. Perhaps one day I will write the book on it all. But I do not think they even want to hear it. Sad that the true Church of Jesus Christ under James the Just, the brother of Jesus were declared heretics by the Roman Catholics. Perhaps Revelation 12 can be better understood!!!!

Later Brothers and Sisters

Terry Winger,
"The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings Reply with quote

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I give you all this because I really never went into all this in the film or my website. As Roger suggests we need to cut through the BS. However there is so much here I was not able to bring it to the film. So perhaps this is just a little extra for all of you.

Terry Winger,
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"The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments - Part II" ???
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Fire Baptism part 2 Reply with quote

Hi Stokes

Part 2 will only be more info on the website. I will not be going into speculations there.

FDA Rejects Marijuana for Medical Use:
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060420220009990008

The votes on the web-page overwhelmingly suggest that people are in favor of Medical MJ. Interesting!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Showtime and Medical Marijuana Reply with quote

Greetings

I wanted to let you all know about some exciting news regarding Showtime and a newly announced film about Medical Marijuana.

MEDICAL MARIJUANA
In the continuing controversy surrounding the medicinal value of marijuana, seven chronically ill individuals continue to receive medical marijuana from the U.S. government even though the law was recently changed to stop this practice. Four of these seven will be interviewed for this documentary. Their illnesses range from M.S. and congenital cataracts to neurological dysfunction and hyperparathyroidism, incredibly painful maladies which are substantially relieved with marijuana cigarettes that have been provided by the federal government for years. While only these individuals continue to get relief within the law, millions of others cannot. This provocative film explores federal drug policy through the eyes of reform organizations, prohibitionist groups, politicians, drug war critics, scientists, and celebrities in an effort to make sense out of the divisive argument between drug abuse, recreational drug use, and medicine. Star Price serves as executive producer, writer and director with Mark Wolper and Joshua E. Kessler serving as executive producers.

I was Just contacted by Showtime as a possible person to be interviewed and they requested a screener on my film, last week. Perhaps the Religious Use issue will finally be presented in the public forum. I am unsure why I would be contacted on Medical Marijuana as my only real expertise is in Jesus healing with the Holy Oil. But perhaps there are other issues being looked at here, hopefully Religious Use. In any case my film is being looked at by some high ranking Showtime folks. With Showtime presenting shows such as Reefer Madness, Weeds, and now the Medical Marijuana Documentary, perhaps Religious Use will be next. Certainly if I were to be filmed on any of this, it would be a big boost to the Holy Anointing oil issue and "The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments". I will keep you all posted

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: sitting around Reply with quote

IntrepidEZJ wrote:
Who here is willing to roll your sleeves up?

Movements don't get started by people sitting around picking their nose.

If the idea isn't good, let's get a new one, but getting almost zero responses is a slap in the face when I am in a group that claims they want to "fight the good fight".

Sounds like a bunch of armchair quarterbacks if you ask me.


Well, everyone has different skills. My skill happens to be writing.

About ten years ago a woman was arrested for prostitution and went on trial in Los Angeles. She attempted to argue that she was a priestess of Isis and that she was performing ritual sex. The prosecutor prepared a list of 12 (rather simple) questions about Isis. The woman was unable to answer any of the questions. Her lack of knowledge about Isis convinced the jury that her religious defense was bogus. All of the jurors said they were going to let her go until she was unable to back up her claims with knowledge.

This is why Roger very wisely reminds everyone that you have to perform due diligence and be prepared to back up your religious claims to cannabis. If you show up in court and have no idea about the basic beliefs of your religion, then you won't stand a chance in court.

By the way, while there were many temples in antiquity that had special priestesses stand in for the Goddess in holy sex, Isis was NOT one those temples -- the woman should have said that she was a priestess of Het Heret, whom the Greeks called Hathor. At some point we need to replace strip clubs with temples of Bes and replace prostitution with temples of Het Heret, but this website is about freedom for cannabis.

I have undertaken the ridiculously large task of creating a website ( www.prntrkmt.org ) that provides a wide range of information on the ancient Egyptian religion and its many modern derivations (ranging from magick-based Tameran Witchcraft to science-based Kemetic Rationalism).

I know that there is a huge amount of work involved, but I think it is worthwhile.

And if anyone can help out with donations, we do need to come up with enough money for things like an office and a lawyer. Please send donations (cash or checks payable to Pr Ntr Kmt) to: Pr Ntr Kmt, PO Box 12061, Costa Mesa, CA, 92627.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done PR.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: The Marijuana Conspiracy. Reply with quote

Greetings All,

I have been researching some of the reasons for the continued illegality of cannabis. Thus far I have only focussed my efforts within Religion or more particularly within early Christianity. Much of what I am about to link to will be a repetitive review for many here, but is very interesting from a discussion point of view. I have spoken to several experts on the issue and the whole thing is widely debated.

I base my thoughts on the idea that the Marijuana Conspiracy is a scheme set forth by the rich and the super rich to enhance their profits by a systematic dissemination of misinformation about the cannabis plant that if returned would revolutionize the industrial complex. A complete change of the rich and the super rich would occur. I found several very well developed web articles on these ideas that I will link to here rather than using a bunch of space.

Note the Paper Industry, Nylon Rope, DuPont, Hearst, Mellon, and the Aslinger Connections! Big Oil, the Drug Industry, Plastics, and literally hundreds of industries would be affected. I found some links on Henry Fords first car that used a cannabis enhanced plastic that was 10 times the strength of steel and 1/3rd the weight. Henry Ford even planned to run his cars on marijuana or cannabis oil. Man just think what that would do to the Big Oil exec`s and the Bush family, let alone the steel plastic, and cotton industry.

The current bio-diesel alternatives have nothing close to the per acre yields of Cannabis Oil. What are they so afraid of? Just say no to their "illuminati New World Order". We have had enough already!!!!

Cool Links:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm

http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml

http://www.artistictreasure.com/learnmorecleanair.html

http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Hemp_Facts.html

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments Reply with quote

Hello,
I have just added some notes including Sumerian references on the 17th posting under the subject "On the etymology of "cannabis"'.
Peace, Love and Respect,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Update Reply with quote

Greetings All:

I wanted to update you on what is happening on the film. I was picked up by ITN Distribution a few months ago. This is currently at the American Film Market in Santa Monica this week. This will also be at several other film markets through March including the Cannes in March. Chris Bennett contacted me and is writing a story for High Times for the Jan edition. If this happens it will be on the news stands at Christmas. This might hit the news. Certainly his last artical did.

God Bless

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Greetings Reply with quote

mfgersource wrote:
Hi again all.

I agree intrepid keep the thoughts coming. I too become frustrated at times. But this is a great group. I feel privileged to discuss all this here.

I just checked out the Hebrew discussed by Sula Benet again in the Strongs accordance. It is dead on. For those of you not familiar with Benets research, it is available online in a reprint:

Benet, Sula; 'Early Diffusions and Folk Uses of Hemp,' in 'CANNABIS AND CULTURE,' Vera Rubin Editor, (The Hague: Moutan 1975 ). Benetowa, Sara, [Sula Benet] ...

The Kaneh or Qaneh and bosm is two separate words. Bosem represents an odor or sweet smelling, or fragrance. One guy suggested in another forum that the seed was used in the Holy Oil. However seed has virtually no smell. I suggested it would have had to be the bud of the plant.

Personally after my research on this, I am convinced that at some point in the Jewish Temple Calamus was used and likely was the basis for the mistranslation. There are several references in Jewish writings to the temple being absent of flies. Calamus is in fact deadly to flies. It is very poisonous to people also. Modern references refer to calamus being capable of killing a dog. Kaneh-Bosem likely was associated with the worship of Ashura on high hills and was removed. The temple priests were murdered at that time as well.

Vendal Jones in fact found some Temple Oil and reference was made that when burnt, flies and spiders fled. The ingredients of the Oil was never released, though Vendal Jones made a statement to a student that cannabis was not found in the oil. Vendal refused to speak to me.

I am convinced Cannabis was used in the earliest Jewish Temple and by Moses. It took a while for me to connect the dots to the early Christian use of Cannabis in the oil. There is a reference to the anointing Oil in one of the Gnostic Texts as having the power of the Soma which is now documented to contain cannabis. In addition to the healing properties of the oil, in the book of acts, at the Pentecost, reference is made to these people being drunk. If the Oil was burnt on the incense they would have likely looked red eyed or drunk.

Certainly if calamus was used in the oil for healing it would have worsened open lesions, and has none of the curative properties of cannabis. Additionally the Father of John the Baptist was Zacharias who was in charge of the Temple Oil and incense at that time. If the holy oil was changed in any way it would have been widely known and likely kept underground for fear of death. Jesus also refers to the texts of Zoroaster whose use of Haoma or Soma is well documented. Zoroaster is the basis of many concepts of Christianity including the concept of Heaven and Hell.

Personally I think Zoroaster was the Prophet Daniel though that would be strongly debated. I base this on references suggesting it was the same king, and I have a 300 AD Gnostic text which is a letter to a Greek which states "I Zoroaster am also known by Hebrews as the prophet Daniel." Certainly not conclusive but very interesting, especially based on the references by Jesus to his texts and the presence of the Zostrianos text with in the Nag Hammadi.

I give you all this because I really never went into all this in the film or my website. As Roger suggests we need to cut through the BS. However there is so much here I was not able to bring it to the film. So perhaps this is just a little extra for all of you. Perhaps one day I will write the book on it all. But I do not think they even want to hear it. Sad that the true Church of Jesus Christ under James the Just, the brother of Jesus were declared heretics by the Roman Catholics. Perhaps Revelation 12 can be better understood!!!!

Later Brothers and Sisters

Terry Winger,
"The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments"
www.freeanointing.org



WOW! great stuff. GOOD NEWS!! keep it coming!! Very Happy

spread the word!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Mosquito Punks Reply with quote

An abstract mention here.

On the Big Island Hawaii mosquito proliferate, sleep exposed and you'll be hit a million times.

Punks are green coils. Lite 'em and off they go, supposed to demosquitoize. Hated the experience of mosiqutio punks, run me off too.

Just added because there is a parallel here some.

And maybe a better "mousetrap" in the future.
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