Ferre.

Z.Kush · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 26

Ferre...
What's the story with you and the Hawaii THC Ministry?
Why did you move to amsterdam? How? Was it complicated or expensive?
Have any advice about the netherlands or how to move there?

Have you ever been accused of a crime in the USA?

**Ferre** · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:

Z.Kush, I am a Dutch citizen, was born here, and Amsterdam is my home town, I never moved from the USA to the Netherlands so I can't really answer whether it was complicated or expensive.

As for being accused of a crime in the USA, I don't think so. Laughing

And as for the story with me and the Hawai'i ministry, I founded the Amsterdam Ministry back in the days when Roger wasn't converted to evangelical christianity yet and I supported the Hawai'' ministry because I believed that the US government wouldn't be inclined that easy to persecute American chapters of an internationally established religion, I founded the Amsterdam Cannabis ministry partly to support our brothers and sisters in fascist America. However, since Roger has fallen for the jesus fable he himself is in conflict with our basic tenets which include modern science. As we all know modern science contradicts the biblical fables and proves them to be nothing but myths partly designed to put fear into the hearts of those who believe and those who don't believe them. Since Roger is supportive of evangelical christianity our Amsterdam chapter feels detached from him and his ministry.
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**viper** · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

.............. detached, as in totally divorced ! Wink

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Z.Kush · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 26

Most of what i asked was just what I (somehow) pieced together... I don't even know, man.

But what's it like over there?

Anything changing?

Is It like %100 percent legal to grow and smoke?

**viper** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject:

No it is neither legal to grow or smoke cannabis in Holland. It is however tollerated up to a point, but thanks to the right wing Bush loving christians now in control of Dutch politics the once liberal and tollerant public concensus is being manipulated towards the interests of the DEA.

That's my short firing off the cuff version, I haven't time to go into it all properly just now, but I'm sure Ferre will expand as time allows him.

The times are definately changing, and for the worse ........
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**Ferre** · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

Yep, viper summed it up quite accurately, the Dutch society is kind of "Americanizing", complete with christian puppets for the big industries running the government and more and more restrictions on actual freedom.

As we speak the christian dominated government is preparing laws to criminalize grow shops and even seeds. It's the same government which denied us the right to vote for the European constitution and the same people who pulled us in supporting the Iraq invasion on lies and deceit when they took part in the former Dutch government.

All I can do is repeat vipers words; The times are definitely changing, and for the worse ........
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