ENGLAND??!

Don Quixote · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject:

truly landmark stuff bro.

especialy the 'ministry of silly walks'. i did have the secret policemans ball on video as well.the english are a whole different kind of crazy !

it is a great gift to make people laugh.

peace

Don Quixote · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject:

hi all.
could anyone with any info. on becoming licensed to perform weddings in England please post the info here.

my local council and authorities keep running me round in circles.

many thanks to all my brothers and sisters .

stay safe

love

peace.

reverend ian daly - london.

Don Quixote · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:18 am Post subject:

ok

just to be clear about the re-classification of cannabis to a class 'c' substance i have managed to dig up the following.

The Home Office
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"Cannabis reclassification

There is a widespread misunderstanding that cannabis has been legalised. This is not the case – in January 2004 Cannabis was reclassified from a Class B to a Class C drug. It is still illegal.

It is still a controlled drug and possession, production and supply of cannabis is still illegal, it is only the penalties that have changed.
Changes to the law
Changes in penalties for supply, dealing, production and trafficking

The maximum penalty is 14 years imprisonment. This has increased from five years for all class C substances including GHB and Valium.
Changes in penalties for possession

The maximum penalty has been reduced from 5 years to 2 years imprisonment.

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Young people in possession of cannabis

A young offender in possession of cannabis will be arrested and taken to a police station where they can receive a reprimand, final warning or charge depending on the seriousness of the offence.

Following one reprimand, any further offence will lead to a final warning or charge. Any further offence following a warning will normally result in a charge being brought. After a final warning, the young offender must be referred to the Youth Offending Team to arrange a rehabilitation programme to prevent reoffending.

This police enforcement is consistent with the structured framework for early juvenile offending established under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

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Adults in possession of cannabis

It is unlikely that adults caught in possession of cannabis will be arrested. Most offences of possession result in a warning and confiscation of the drug. But some instances may lead to arrest and possible caution or prosecution, including:

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repeat offending
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smoking in a public place
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instances where public order is threatened
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possession of cannabis in the vicinity of premises used by children

the above nonsense is available from the home office website at the following link.:-

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drugs-law/cannabis-reclassification/?view=Standard

LOVE AND RESPECT TO YOU ALL

PEACE

STAY SAFE

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Don Quixote · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:33 am Post subject:

my letter to peter lilly MP. :-

to thr rt. hon. mr.Peter lilley MP

sir,

i am writing to you concerning your intelligent and well thought out article in the GUARDIAN newspaper , dated 11TH JULY 2002.

i was heartened to read this article on your website :-

http://www.peterlilley.co.uk/speeches.php?action=show&id=352

and must confess to being more than a little surprised to see such a brave and intelligent appraisal of the facts regarding cannabis emanating from a member of parliament!

please allow me to point out the following scientific facts regarding the herbal plant known as 'cannabis sativa' :-

1) there is writen , documented evidence of cannabis use , for religeous , social and medicinal purposes , dating back at least five and a half thousand years.

2) cannabis is NOT a narcotic - the correct , scientific , definition of a narcotic being "a substance capable of causing narcosis and/or death."

3) there is NO evidence of a single death having ever being caused by the consumption or use of cannabis or its derivatives.

4) there is NO accepted , credible , scientific evidence of cannabis having ever caused harm to a single human being , be it physical or mental.indeed , there is a vast compendium of writen evidence , dating back thousands of years , to suggest that cannabis has considerable medicinal value for the treatment of several forms of serious and life threatening disease and illness.

5) cannabis and its derivatives are NOT physically addictive.ie. cannabis does not cause the debilitating effects of 'withdrawal' seen in drug and alcohol abuse.

6) cannabis use does NOT cause an increased predeliction for violence or crime.it is a known fact that the OPPOSITE is the case.

7) the prohibition of cannabis , as well as criminalising millions of otherwise decent , law abiding people in britain DOES cause increased crime and violence.

8)the unjustifiable prohibition of cannabis has caused millions of otherwise decent , law abiding people to lose respect for the law , the administration of those laws and the government and institutions of this country.

9)millions , and probably billions of pounds leave the shores of this country every year , destined for the secret bank accounts of rich and powerful international gangsters and drug trafficers , many of whom also deal in lethal and life destroying hard drugs.this money is lost forever , would it not be better if that money stayed in britain and was re-circulated within our own economy?

10) serious doubts MUST be cast on the un-scientific 'scare stories' concerning the relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia.when one looks at how those figures were derived and the motivation behind the study one cannot help but feel a deep sence of suspicion as to the voracity of such 'evidence'.

these sir , are just a brief outline of some of the facts concerning the consumption of cannabis.in the interests of brevity i have not included the vast body of corroberative evidence which backs up these facts.

please understand it is not my wish or intention to be contentious or disrespectful of the democratic institutions of this country.however , i believe it is imperative that the laws prohibiting the cultivation and use of cannabis , in private and involving NO commerce should be abandoned as soon as is practicable.

in order to declare my interests in this matter i feel it only fair to inform you , sir , that i belong to a church which mandates the cultivation of cannabis for private and personal use ONLY.

This multi-denominational church , the THC Ministry , strictly prohibits the sale of or any commercial aspect of , cannabis sativa or any of its parts or derivatives.

My church believes that our use of cannabis , which we regard as a sacrament , is protected by international and european laws , such as article 18 of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948.Although , i must confess , i have no confidence that the U.N. courts , the European courts or the courts in this country would uphold and respect those rights , especialy in light of the fact that all these bodies are vehemently opposed to any sensible policy reform.

We believe that cultivating and using cannabis is completely harmless and should be allowed for personal use for persons over the age of 21, thus avoiding the persecution and criminalisation of vast sectors of our citizenry for no justifiable moral , medical , scientific or legal reason.

think of the effect this would have on the gangsters and trafficers in this world.think of the millions of pounds that would be diverted out of the hands of criminals and back into the economy.

i respectfully ask , sir , that you forward this letter to as many members of parliament and the house of lords as you can.
i ask this with the knowledge that it will invite the unwarranted attention of our police and security services.this in itself is a damning indictment of the policy of cannabis prohibition.

finaly , may i offer my best wishes and blessings to you and your family.

with the greatest of respect.

yours sincerely

reverend Ian Daly

http://www.ulc.org
http://www.thc-ministry.org/
http://www.thc-ministry.net/
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think i will send that to a few other MP's which i will find at :-

http://www.locata.co.uk/commons (locates addresses for MP's)

i will let you know if he responds when i get out of jail ! ;-]

PEACE.

**Ferre** · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject:

This is an excellent letter brother.
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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:

Well done, DQ!
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**Torkel** · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject:

Good job on the letter, DQ. Smile

Peace,
Torkel
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Don Quixote · Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:30 am Post subject:

hi all

many thanks to you all for your support.i honestly wish i could say it was going to have a profound effect on the laws over here , but i doubt it.some MP's are fairly well informed on the real issues surrounding hemp and cannabis but they were afraid to show it publicly in the past.

this is because the press would always kick the hell out of them .however , this MP is a fairly intelligent human being and i have seen him stand his ground on some very contoversial issues.

anyway , i would not have known a fraction of those facts if it were not for the THC Ministry and , most importantly , all of its founders , moderators and members. something else i owe you all a debt for - i learned its ok to have strong veiws , but its always better to behave in a polite and business like manner.it refelcts back on the ministry in a positive way , i hope.

poor man , if he ever responds i am going to send him a blizzard of information on hemp and cannabis ;-}

anyway , i think the most vital thing is to get the U.N. educated .you may think this is crazy but the U.N. has made it an OFFENCE AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW FOR ANY COUNTRY TO MAKE CANNABIS COMPLETELY LEGAL.THAT MUST CHANGE.SOON.

many thanks to you all for your support and for the education.

LOVE AND RESPECT TO YOU ALL

PEACE.
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Stokes · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject:

Nice work, Don Q.
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Don Quixote · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject:

thanx bro.Stokes

i think i am preaching to the converted there but i intend to send that letter to as many MP's as i can find.

blair already got a copy , which he will ignore of course , but hey , if they arrest me , there is nothing like a test case !

i am old , knackered and single so i am past caring.at least you get fed in an english prison... i think.

too many people in this country are losing their homes and being inprisoned for being in posesion of a herb. for crying out loud , how can you cage a man or woman for possesing a plant.we are not talking about an atom bomb , it is a herbal plant.!

its not ' normalisation' we need , its sanity ! i saw a post by brother Mystic saying that a couple of states in your country just de-criminalised possesion of cannabis.so for that at least , i am glad.i hope that 'sanity' spreads to your part of the world and beyond bro. Stokes

and on top of that , i hope more people join our ministry.with all our diverse ideas , beliefs , philosophies and moral codes we could easily act as a sort of global 'lynchpin' for the promotion of mans most valuable and versatile crop.

anyway , thanks for your support Brother Stokes and everybody else too.education and knowledge are powerful forces in this world.i am obliged to ya all.

LOVE AND RESPECT TO YOU ALL.

PEACE

HUMANITY

JUSTICE

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Stokes · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject:

Right on time, Brother.

Could I be so bold as to ask if you would mind if any of us were to make the necessary revisions so that this refreshing blast of conscience could be sent out to the U.S. politicians as well?

I couldn't think of a finer compliment.

Stokes
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Don Quixote · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:

ooooops sorry 'bout the delay bro.Stokes

if any part of any post i ever make is of any use to anybody please feel free to use it.

you will probably get the same response that i did - ie... a big fat nothing.also you might want to re-write it in a less 'florid' language.i am certain you could do better.

even though that sort of 'speak' is common in diplomatic circles over here i am sure the civilised world speaks a much more intelligable form of english.

i have found that you should always be respectful and polite , even if you hate the recipient .we are sort of ambassadors for the THC-Ministry as well as for our own beliefs.any excuse and your mail is labeled as abusive and filtered out.

to be honest i am not sure about the wisdom of trying to educate the people in power.these people always have their own agenda and their own masters.

many drops of rain make a mighty ocean.sooner or later a point of 'critical mass' will be reached and when people look back at this age they will laugh at the rediculous notion of making a plant illeagal and destroying the lives of millions of people because of those laws.

international law and the U.S. Constitution is our shield.

our knowledge and the way we portray ourselves to the world is our sword.

and this is how we are fighting 'the drug war'.

PEACE

STAY SAFE.

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**Mystic Power** · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: