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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 451 Location: Santa Cruz Cannafornia
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: Dr. Mollie Fry gets 5 ******* Years! MM |
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Doctor, Wife Sentenced To 5 Years in Prison in Medical Marijuana Case
By Denny Walsh
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
CA -- A doctor and his wife from El Dorado County were both sentenced Wednesday in Sacramento federal court to five years in prison for conspiracy to grow marijuana and manufacturing it in a medicinal marijuana case.
U. S. District Judge Frank C. Damrell Jr. said federal law left him with no choice but to impose the mandatory minimum sentence in each case.
The statutory minimum applied because a jury in August found Dr. Marion "Mollie" Fry and attorney Dale Schafer guilty of conspiring to grow and distribute at least 100 pot plants at their offices in Cool and their home in Greenwood.
Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.sacbee.com/102/story/798951.html
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7295 Location: Amsterdam
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David Bard

Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1261
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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who cares?
no-one has ever been sentence to prison for medical marijuana use, its not in the publics interest, but there is always the first. |
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7295 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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That's America David. When the American federal government puts people to trial judges have no choice but to impose the minimal sentence. To make sure those people get sentenced, as you can read in that article, the federal government used "distribution" and "conspiracy" charges against those people.
When caught with that amount of plants as they were it is hard to plead innocent on distribution charges.
In Europe things are different, judges have more space to give lighter sentences, specially when the accused are caught with only a few plants for personal use, no distribution is suspected and medicinal reasons are pleaded and most European courts do not add the "conspiracy" charge, which in America has minimal sentences at itself, wich add up to their original charge. _________________ █ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
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David Bard

Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 1261
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Things are changing Ferre, They will want to stop me and if it means living in prison they will do it, whether it be in an establishment or out in the open, I will still be incarcerated. They have it sorted, my life won't be worth living soon, the stress they are giving me by fear is way too much, most would have cracked by now, even when this is over (which frankly I believe will never happen) My cards are marked and so are my kids. Life will never be the same, my addiction will get worse and when they have the evidence they will come back, and back, and back. I suppose being in a small time paper with a few people saying that's outrageous when it happens is something to look forward to.
Ireland will crack and fall down to them, all the IRA have disbursed since they were brainwashed in thinking they had won, now the Irish public know what's going to happen, they will just break them with constant voting. the only thing that kept Ireland going was the money from America, now the cold war has ended, they have nothing.
Either give in or lose, is the only message I get. Or let them think they won, which doesn't make sense to me. |
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7295 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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David brother, as you know, I do know the details of your case, the only thing that can get you jailtime for your particular case is your own attitude during your trial.
It's very simple:
Wrong attitude = jailtime
Right attitude = no jailtime.
It's up to you to decide what it will be, no one else has any influence on that. We have discussed this many times in the past bro, when you had not lost your cool to begin with you would not be in the sitiuation you are in now, all you can do to reduce the consequenses of your own actions is harm reduction. A court is NOT the place for activism, I repeat: All you can do is HARM REDUCTION. It's up to you to decide whether you take my advice or not but at the end of the day you should decide what is more important to you, your family and your own freedom or your urge to use the court as a platform for your activism.
Think positive bro. Please. _________________ █ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
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David Bard

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| We have discussed this many times in the past bro, when you had not lost your cool to begin with you would not be in the sitiuation you are in now, all you can do to reduce the consequenses of your own actions is harm reduction. |
This is good example Ferre.
I have tried to explain to you many times, I do not lose my cool. I was a wanted man anyway, because I am a good activator, I am persistent and others lose their cool with that, I stand up for my rights as a human being, unfortunately I am against people who basically don't give a shit if they use the law against me and twist everything around to make it look like I lose my cool.
1) Someone lost there cool and tried to rob me, so I destroyed a pair of doors to stop myself from being accused of theft.
2) The police made what common man would call an illegal search. Then the police move two dead plants from my car to my garage and call the a large factory.
3) Then they take my driving licence and by using a law against me and refraining me from speaking to a solicitor.
4) Every activist I have spoken to says "we've lost the war and cannabis will never be legal", even John Sinclair claims that. It's not legal anywhere in the world and I understand when not losing my cool 'it never will be'.
5) Even you say the police can't do that, but they have and they do. I am starting to understand the shit I am in is not because I lose my cool, It's because I am a lone soldier. I can handle all the shit they throw at me, but when they move the goal posts I know I am fucked, and they only move the goal posts because they want me, surly you can see that!
I have not hurt anyone. I am losing everything and I don't see the end, unless I quit smoking marijuana, that is the only thing that is getting me into this shit.
so let me try to explain, I damaged my own doors that I have been cleared of. I am innocent! The judge does not care about that as far as he is concerned he wants me for failing to give a breath test in which the police have no right in forcing me to take (remember I have told you the truth, they offered me a breath test, then lied in court, not much I can do about that). They are now convicting me of having cultivated, no one has ever heard of that. For years people have protested to politicians and we have got no-where, everytime we go to court they just move the goal post further apart. and all we do is write letters that only we read, all we do is complain to ourselves. No we need fair justice and we don't get it. the only time I see us winning is when we stand up and not when we sitdown and write letters.
Thousands of letter have been written and thousand more will, We have no legal team and we have no politicians and when we do they are rigged not to get anywhere.
I know what you are say Ferre. "Stay chilled and let that poker slip up easy, everyone else does". Make you wonder if there are any activists at all out there. |
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Ferre Cannabis Sacrament Minister.


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7295 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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David, what I'm telling you is that the court is not the place to change the laws, that won't happen. What I'm tellng you is that you need to be realistic and what I also say is that dwelling in self-pity and victimising yourself is not of any help in your case, on contrary.
You have a strong case in defending yourself, specially with the many mistakes the police made in your case, when you concentrate on your defence instead of complaining about the situation in the world you will make a better chance to get your justice.
Telling us that you wonder if there are activists in the world is an insult to all those who do work hard to get laws changed, sure it is not going as fast as we want it but that does not deminish the efforts made by thousands of people on a daily basis.
You have a strong case David, when you concentrate on your case you can win this but victimising yourself won't do it. _________________ █ Please read the Board Rules and Posting, and you
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David Bard

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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It's not self pity, It's frustration.
I feel very isolated and I do wonder if there are any activists left. Since looking into other peoples cases I do wonder what laws are changing, all I see is the law changing but in the wrong direction.
I know I have a strong case, but they could still move the goal post so wide even a blind man could score, and don't forget my self pity, I think I will have the right to winge.
I can assure you Ferre sitting there thinking I'm going to win is no way to think I have done that to many times, you need to be ten moves ahead not one, I will not listen, I think my appeal for my driving licence will go bad, if it does the law will change, they will use my case as an example to future cases. everytime we lose in court it make them stronger, even down to the case that you think are petty, they all mean something and that is what I keep telling you but you never listen. You said you know nothing about british law but when I tell you about you claim you know more than me.
LAWS ARE CHANGED IN COURT.
If I win my appeal they will not be able to random test, if I lose it will open the flood gate for them to test every cannabis smoker when driving.
If you can't understand that you need to study more.
IT AIN'T SELF PITY ITS FRUSTRATION. |
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DdC Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 451 Location: Santa Cruz Cannafornia
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: Bon appetite! |
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Pot Makes You Lose Your Mind!
March 20th, 2008 By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director
Following Tuesday’s surprise House vote in New Hampshire in favor of legislation decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of pot, many of the Granite State’s political leaders and pundits have come down with severe cases of ‘Reefer Madness.’
New Hampshire House Votes 193-141 to Stop Arresting Pot Offenders
Hard-wired for prohibition
Mayor Frank Guinta has asked state Rep. David Scannell to resign as spokesman for the Manchester school district after Scannell voted Tuesday to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana.
The notion of calling for the resignation of someone from a public position for their vote as a representative in the State House is extraordinarily absurd, particularly when coming from a public official invoking logic while demonstrating a complete lack of it.
But it's also a very telling moment as it relates to drug policy. Sure, Guinta's a moron. But how did he arrive at such a low point of humanity?
I'm convinced that there is a small core segment of the population that has so thoroughly drunk the kool-aid of prohibition that they firmly believe two propositions to be as true as the law of gravity:
1. Marijuana is very, very bad. Always.
2. An effective way, and the only way, to deal with marijuana is through strict prohibition
Despite being completely wrong, these two points are so ingrained that these people will not/cannot comprehend/listen to any rational arguments, so they assume that no rational opposing viewpoint exists. Thus, anyone who has an opposing viewpoint must want bad things to happen and should therefore certainly not be put in any connection with young people.
Prohibition propaganda overrides parts of the brain that actually allow rational thought. This makes our job much harder... DWR Pete Guither
Once there was a little bird,
liked to bask in the warm sun,
soon the summer was over
and all the birds started heading south for the winter.
Except this little bird wanted to soak up the last rays.
Now he looked around and was alone.
So he started heading south.
Soon the weather changed and he started getting cold.
After a while ice started forming on his wings.
Before he knew it he as falling,
Oh I wish I would have left sooner, he exclaimed.
This is it, the end, oh why didn't I follow the others.
Then he hit the ground, splat!
but he landed in a big old pile of cow dung.
When he opened his eyes he saw he wasn't hurt,
the dung was warm and soft and he never gave it a thought,
relieved, he soon fell fast asleep.
The sun hit his face the next morning awakening him.
Now he was rested and ready to go.
But he as stuck in the dung.
What is this he yelled, it smells,
someone get me out of here!!!
He kept yelling and soon the barn cat heard.
Came to investigate when the little bird saw him.
He moaned, please help me out of this shit.
It smells and I have to fly south for the winter.
The cat gave him a big old smile.
Gently tugged and pulled him out of the dung.
Then ate him.
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brother Cathan High and aware


Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 14 Location: the boro of Edin, PA
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Bon appetite! |
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Once there was a little bird,
liked to bask in the warm sun,
soon the summer was over
and all the birds started heading south for the winter.
Except this little bird wanted to soak up the last rays.
Now he looked around and was alone.
So he started heading south.
Soon the weather changed and he started getting cold.
After a while ice started forming on his wings.
Before he knew it he as falling,
Oh I wish I would have left sooner, he exclaimed.
This is it, the end, oh why didn't I follow the others.
Then he hit the ground, splat!
but he landed in a pasture freezing when
a cow comes along and shits on the little frozen birdie.
When he opened his eyes he saw he wasn't hurt,
the dung was warm and soft and he never gave it a thought,
relieved, he soon fell fast asleep.
The sun hit his face the next morning awakening him.
Now he was rested and ready to go.
But he as stuck in the dung.
What is this he yelled, it smells,
someone get me out of here!!!
He kept yelling and soon the barn cat heard.
Came to investigate when the little bird saw him.
He moaned, please help me out of this shit.
It smells and I have to fly south for the winter.
The cat gave him a big old smile.
Gently tugged and pulled him out of the dung.
Then ate him. |
moral of this story is...
not everyone who shits on you is your enemy,
and not every one who gets you out of deep shit is your friend.
i was told this by a "friend" years after i took him to court for burning my car... then we spent the rest of the night getting shitfaced  _________________ "One never errs more safely, methinks, than when one errs by too much loving the truth, and too much rejecting of falsehood."
– St Augustine |
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David Bard

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Following Tuesday’s surprise House vote in New Hampshire in favor of legislation decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of pot, many of the Granite State’s political leaders and pundits have come down with severe cases of ‘Reefer Madness.’ |
This always reminds me of being able to have an egg, but not to own a chicken. It would be a great idea if there were legal coffee shops, but this just leaves it open for unhealthy cannabis to hit the market, or criminals to abuse good smokers.
I am afraid full legalisation is the only answer. |
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