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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 75 Location: God's Green Earth
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: Did Jesus Use Cannabis? |
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Hi all,
I found this link and thought it to be interesting, that cannabis was a common herb used for many uses from the beginning. For many years I used cannabis secretly for pleasure and medical and always felt guilty being a pentecostal minister. Not that there is anything wrong with using what God called good in genesis 1:11,12
I think for the most part It will be a Job for the Traditional so called Christian Church to Accept Cannabis as being biblical and good.
I encourage all doubting Christian's and to any one who is interested, to get an Strong Concordance and a JKV Holy Bible and they can see what some of the words really mean and not just take peoples opinions as fact. Why do most cannabis plants have seven leaves? Seven in the bible is the number of perfection.
Frankincense & Myrrh which is a (calming) herb was used for Medicine, Incense, Oil etc. as among other spices.
I do not believe Jesus smoked Cannabis but used the holy anointing oil to anoint the sick and cast out devils.
http://www.cannabis.net/articles/jesus-cannabis.html
Smoke_Rings  _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004
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Romadon Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Indiana - USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with you S_R, that Cannabis appears to exhibit a perfection of symmetry that few other plants do. And like you say the numbers seem to be biblical. _________________ "The world's religions have done more to harm humankind than to help it."
('ELOHIM 'AH_VAH)
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Lilli Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 4218
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Smoke Rings... My husband was raised penticostal and he STILL has pangs of guilt. You know they alos preach no alcohol altho I remind my husband that Jesus turned the water to wine at the wedding feast.
He replied with what was put in his head all those years. "It was unfermented " I said Honey unfermented wine is grape juice. The Bible says WINE. He struggles with this deep indoctorinazation at least a cpl times a week to this day.
My husband often feels bad for having a beer now and again. In 6 years of marrage I have never seen my husband drunk. And he still wrestles with the cannabis issue in his heart at times.  _________________
I pass to you the torch that Christ once passed to me.
Others are still in the dark and need
the light to see.
"I AM"
"Gathering the fragments so that
none are lost"
His Shepherdess
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 75 Location: God's Green Earth
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ramadon,
Hope all is well with you. I enjoy Words and Numbers. After starting this link I referred to my Number books ...Biblical Mathematics and Number in scripture. It is very plain that the Number (Seven) 7 is seen throughout the entire bible. Not only can be seen and illistrated in the natural realm but also of Spirititual things.
I was gonna write some things I saw in the books I mentioned, but came across a cool link by punching in the number (Seven) 7 in the google search engine, that gives a good pitcture of how significant the number (Seven) 7 is.
I found it interesting also, that the number (Twelve) 12 as in the Twelve manner of fruits mentioned concering the Tree of life in Revelation's 22:2 has Twelve fruits, which represents Govermental Perfection. The Tree of life will be a literal tree as per the Scripture.
Wont that be a treat, Govermental Perfection lol
When I teach & preach, I always stress not to try to spiritualize eveything, or try to interpret the Holy Bible, it is already written in english and dont need to be interpreted lol For there are many things in the Holy Bible that are literal, that are going on, right now in this life.
For Spiritual, is nothing less then God's reallity.
Click
http://www.biblewheel.com/Topics/Seven.asp _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004 |
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Romadon Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Indiana - USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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For sure, Rings. Words and numbers truly are fascinating things. I flunked math in school though. Didn't see the use or need for it then. Had to learn the hard way and out of necessity as usual, mainly, being, learning to make change and being at the check-out lines. _________________ "The world's religions have done more to harm humankind than to help it."
('ELOHIM 'AH_VAH)
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RogerChristie Cannabis Sacrament Minister.

Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 1098 Location: Hilo, Kingdom of Hawai'i
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: "Thank cannabis for that!" |
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Hello out there,
Aloha. Thanks Smoke_ Rings for your post and your testimony. You're honesty is much appreciated, especially coming from the background that you have shared with us. I've heard that some Pentecostals even prohibit dancing! (Like US Attorney General John Ashcroft?) You have somehow escaped into tolerance and respect. Thank cannabis for that!
Does anyone know where the word, 'pentecostal' comes from? What's its root? It sounds a bit like pentagram or pentagon. Origins of words can be really valuable in understanding their meaning today.
It's not necessary for Jesus to have used cannabis for us to have a cannabis ministry, but since it seems that he did use it, was anointed with it and asked his disciples to anoint others with it, WOW! That adds so much to our mission and credibility that it's a miracle in itself. Hallelujah!
I believe that we can safely interpret the Bible as encouraging us to become ordained (John 15:16) and to cultivate cannabis to make holy anointing oil to help heal the sick (Mark 6:13) and bless them as Jesus would have. Amen.
All the best to you,
Roger
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Lilli Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 4218
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Amen and Amen _________________
I pass to you the torch that Christ once passed to me.
Others are still in the dark and need
the light to see.
"I AM"
"Gathering the fragments so that
none are lost"
His Shepherdess
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 75 Location: God's Green Earth
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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It is written, herbs are for the service of men. Psalm 104:14
Be blessed,
Smoke_Rings _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Roger,
Peace Love and Joy _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004
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Lilli Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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The bible also says to give a little wine to those who are poor in spirit so that tyhey might forget there troubles for while.
I cant think right off where it is but I could find it. _________________
I pass to you the torch that Christ once passed to me.
Others are still in the dark and need
the light to see.
"I AM"
"Gathering the fragments so that
none are lost"
His Shepherdess
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Romadon Cannabis Sacrament Minister


Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 870 Location: Indiana - USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Smoke_Rings wrote: |
When I teach & preach, I always stress not to try to spiritualize everything, or try to interpret the Holy Bible, it is already written in English and don't need to be interpreted lol For there are many things in the Holy Bible that are literal, that are going on, right now in this life. |
Man, ain't that the truth. I have had many disagreements with my own family as to what in the bible should be interpreted symbolically and what is to be taken literally. To me much of it seems simple enough a child could understand it but it seems when the truth is too hard to swallow many people try to turn it into symbolism to justify their own inadequacies or lack of faith.
Things such as fasting. Why are some people so determined that a person must drink a certain amount of water or eat 3 square meals a day or they will get sick or die. Seems to me everyone sooner or later gets sick and dies regardless of what or how much they eat or drink or how many doctors they go to.
I wonder if anyone besides me saw on Fox News not to long ago they had gotten a hold of one of those Hindu-Yogi characters who claimed not to have (eaten or drank) anything since the age of 10, and at the time of this broadcast was supposed to have been 66. I guess a number of prominent physicians had run tests on him and were also able to verify these claims if that is even possible to determine such a thing. Maybe it was one of them April Fool's jokes or something since I only saw it that one time and nothing more about it on Fox or anywhere else after that.
I also remember a while back when the police beat that big overweight black man to death and it sure seems that was swept under the rug in a big hurry, so who knows. Sure are a lot of things that get silenced or they try turning it into a joke in a big hurry. As The Moody Blues said in one of their songs, "The truth is hard to swallow, That's what the war of love is for". I just can't understand how so many people can see and hear things with their own two eyes and ears and so boldly and blatantly deny it anyway.
So much for, "I'll believe it when I see it" or "Seeing is believing." Ain't that a joke. I think a lot of people if they saw a skeleton get up out of the ground and dance around in front of them they would just laugh it off as some kind of a joke. I don't know maybe I'm just gullible but I believe many things I've read about without ever having to literally see them. I guess I feel that the character of the writer or story teller should speak for itself and who am I to call them a liar? Especially when every living being could be so greatly blessed if their words are true. I guess I'd much rather believe a made up story with a good ending for all living things than a bad one. _________________ "The world's religions have done more to harm humankind than to help it."
('ELOHIM 'AH_VAH)
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Romadon Cannabis Sacrament Minister


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Lilli wrote: |
The bible also says to give a little wine to those who are poor in spirit so that tyhey might forget there troubles for while.
I cant think right off where it is but I could find it. |
And in the same place I think it is, Lilli, "Give strong drink to him that is ready to die"? Can't quote it word for word now without seeing it. _________________ "The world's religions have done more to harm humankind than to help it."
('ELOHIM 'AH_VAH)
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 75 Location: God's Green Earth
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Hey Roger,
Here it is, pente = 5. Pentekonta = 50 Pentekoste
Penta = 5 Pentagram 5 lines any figure having 5 lines
Hope that clears up Pente/Penta =5 _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Peace Love Joy,
Smoke_Rings _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004
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Smoke_Rings Cannabis Sacrament Minister

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Woops _________________ "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln December, 1840
If Cannabis is illegal, then God must be the biggest criminal of all. Smoke_Rings 2004 |
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