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aeroplane
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 Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: Defying bans, war critics rally near Bush ranch |
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Defying bans, war critics rally near Bush ranch
Sheriff warns he’ll make arrests; Cindy Sheehan set to arrive later in week
Updated: 9:12 a.m. ET Nov. 23, 2005
CRAWFORD, Texas - More than a dozen war protesters returned to a roadside near President Bush’s ranch before dawn Wednesday, defying two new local bans on roadside camping and parking.
About an hour after the group pitched tents and huddled in sleeping bags and blankets, a McLennan County sheriff’s deputy arrived and warned the group to leave or face arrest.
Protester and former U.S. diplomat Ann Wright told the deputy that most of the group would stay because they believed the bans restrict their free-speech rights. The deputy said the group would have two more warnings before he started making arrests.
Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan wasn’t among the protesters Wednesday because of a family emergency in California, but she planned to arrive at the camp later in the week. The protest was set to coincide with Bush’s Thanksgiving ranch visit.
“We are proud to be here,” Dede Miller, Sheehan’s sister, said Wednesday as she huddled in a blanket at the campsite. “This is just so important. What we did in August really moved us forward, and this is just a continuation of it.”
In August, hundreds of demonstrators camped off the road during a 26-day protest led by Cindy Sheehan, whose 24-year-old soldier son, Casey, was killed in Iraq last year. But a month later, county commissioners banned camping in any county ditch and parking within a 7-mile radius of the ranch, citing safety and traffic congestion issues.
Earlier this week, three demonstrators filed a federal lawsuit against McLennan County over the two local bans.
But the demonstrators said their protest would continue, even if they were arrested. The peace activists have set up camp at a private 1-acre lot that a sympathetic landowner let them use the last several weeks of their summer protest. The land is about a mile from Bush’s ranch.
© 2005 The Associated Press.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10173879/
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Well, it's vacation time again at the Bush ranch and I'm sure it must be embarassing for lil bush, who is most likely hosting turkey day, to have his father and brother drive past legions of protestors. Not since Nixon has America seen such a hate for the president.
If I was in America, I would be camping out right along with the others to make my voice be heard in the annals of history.
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Its early for me, so forgive my grumpiness on this matter.
these people are convinced what they are doing is so important when in reality it means nothing. You can stand on the side of the road and talk to your hearts content, Bush doesnt care that they are there, and niether does 75% of America.
Heres an idea, how about instead of standing on the side of the road screaming "Hey, look at me! I dont like Bush!", why arent these people out gathering signitures for a recall, standing in front of supermarkets and what not, trying to actually get something real done.
Dont get me wrong, what they are doing is comendable, however I, for one, am getting a little tired of hearing people complain if they arent gonna do anything real about the situatation.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I hear ya Zero,
Its just there is a thousand ways to do something and everyone has there own way.
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| You can stand on the side of the road and talk to your hearts content, Bush doesnt care that they are there, and niether does 75% of America. |
Have to disagree with ya there, brother Z. If Bush didn't care, then why did the small town of Crawford, TX have to put a 7 mile radius ban on protesting around the Bush ranch? Would they do that for any other citizen?
Bush cares. It's a huge embarassment to have a former president and a standing governor passing protestors, the likes of which have not been seen since Nixons era, on their way to the ranch for some turkey. Nixon was terrified of the protestors. Once it dawned on him how many people were directing their hate at him, personally, it fucked with his mind and he couldn't take the pressure.
The nation obviously cares because Bush's approval rates began plummetting after the August protest. If the nation didn't care, I would not have found this article on the front page of MSNBC's news site. This is just one approach towards making people aware that we no longer need to take Bush's bullshit. This also helps to empower those who are taking names to have Bush & Co. impeached as more people realize they are not alone in hating Bush.
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GWDH... I hate the motherfucker too.
Get out the tar & feathers 
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| why arent these people out gathering signitures for a recall, standing in front of supermarkets and what not, trying to actually get something real done. |
...and how do we know they're not?
Didn't hear about it in the Corporate Media?
What exactly, is the procedure for a presidential recall to be inacted? If there is such a procedure, it would be delineated in the U.S. Constitution.
Is there such a procedure?
...and, I think those folks are doing A FINE THING.
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| Is there such a procedure? |
In Star Wars, I know all you had to do was have a senator move for a vote of "no confidence" in the current chancellor.
However, Im not sure of the laws here in the states.
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Is there such a procedure?
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It is a bit disturbing to have the High Wizard of Google-ology ask us that question. It was like a tear in the fabric of my reality.  Ben, if you don't have the answer, don't look to us. We're just your students.
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The only "recall" procedure I know of, in the U.S., is impeachment.
Under a paliamentary system, there is a vote of "No Confidence."
...but that ain't us.
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I want to be darth vader.
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| Under a paliamentary system, there is a vote of "No Confidence." |
Yup, we are facing a No Confidence vote here next week for our government. You can impeach them for lying about getting a blow job but not for lying about going to war. What kind of fucked up constitution is that?
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| Under a paliamentary system, there is a vote of "No Confidence." |
Yup, we are facing a No Confidence vote here next week for our government. You can impeach them for lying about getting a blow job but not for lying about going to war. What kind of fucked up constitution is that? |
That's what I'm screamin! 
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these people were arrested. Thats a fucking travesty of justice. No one should ever be arrested for protesting. It's immoral, unamerican, and shows signs of a dictatorship.
Crap, wholey and totally crap, and I have an editorial for this one coming soon.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| zero wrote: |
| ... and I have an editorial for this one coming soon. |
Here's a nice reference:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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thanks Mystic, I'll definately use that.
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