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Ferre
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To be honest, I don't think that will happen. Besides, living in a society under christian fundamentalists based laws isn't such a pleasure either, and that's nearly everywhere in the western world. The fact that most people got used to it during centuries of indoctrination doesn't make it all any better for those who didn't grow up with christian doctrines and morals.
For me they are not much different, muslim fanatics or christian fanatics. They all want to have the power to tell others what's good for them and I grew up in a culture (Dutch) in which christian fanatics make the rules since centuries. For a guy like me they are all a bunch of dangerous nutters.
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yes, I'm very lucky and so are many others who live here in peace.
and I wish it will stay that way. but as expected in 50 years Netherlands will be just another Islamic country. I don't wish for my kids to stay here.
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Hi Sara...
Or, even better, why not invision a world where fundamentalist hate thought has become a thing of the past, like the murder of witches...?
If we don't VISION it...we won't create it.
Thoughts become things. Let's choose the good ones. 
Follow Your Bliss,
Ben
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Ferre
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From my mailbox...
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What they did to my friend Maysoon
http://www.maysoon.com/
I want to tell you the story of what happened to my friend Maysoon
Zayid when she left Ben Gurion Airport a few days ago to fly back to
NYC. Since she told it to me, it has grown from a little hole inside
me into a huge gaping wound. I have become consumed with it, this one
detail of one woman's crossing.
I want to write it to you particularly because I have no right to tell
this story. There is always a worse story, so we never have the right
to tell our stories.
Stories which are all part of the Israeli matrix of occupation and
touch every aspect of all our lives and our bodies. These stories are
not to be told because there is always someone whose home has been
demolished, someone whose family member was shot before their eyes,
someone who was imprisoned, detained and tortured....there is always
the bunker bombs, cluster bombs, civilians crushed under the rubble of
buildings, families killed while picnicking on beaches..... do I need
to go on?
Can I still tell this story in the face of such large scale horror?
Can I resist?
Can we hear, mourn and acknowledge Maysoon's story for what it is,
what it was, and how deeply damaging and brutal something like this
can be?
How calculated every arm of the Israeli machine is.
She called me when she landed in NYC and said "Emily you won't believe
what happened to me at Ben Gurion Airport."
The ugliness of the occupation and the years of damaging experiences
reared their ugly head inside me when my first thought was a bitten
and ironic "What?" Big deal! I thought. What could she possibly tell
me that is so horrific?
My own experiences flashed through my mind....the time they smashed my
G4 laptop in half so a huge chunk was hanging off of it, the countless
tapes, film, pictures and more that they have ever confiscated, the
strip searches, the humiliation of being strip searched by a man, when
they emptied the vodka bottles I brought back for my peeps in Ramallah
and filled them with water.......my dear sister who left Ben Gurion a
few months ago and had everything she was carrying confiscated. She
was only allowed to board the plane with her passport. She is a writer
and filmmaker and loves to write on planes but they would not allow
her a pen and paper. The sandwich she made in her home in Ramallah was
taken from her. She made it because she has blood sugar issues and she
needed that sandwich to make it through without getting sick and weak.
She explained this to the Israeli security who looked at her with
stealy eyes and told her to drink coffee....my sister. My uncle with
cancer whose prosthesis they forcibly removed and on and on and on....
Before I continue, just a note that Maysoon has cerebral palsy and
went through this whole process in a wheelchair at Ben Gurion airport.
Maysoon began "Emily I was strip-searched"
Me: "Oh yea so? Everyone gets strip searched." A disgusting reaction I
know. I couldn't help myself. Yes it is shameful when you are so
damaged that that is your first thought.
I can not forgive myself for that reaction.
Maysoon continued "They took everything. They left me naked in the
room and when they returned with my clothes they had taken my
maxipad." What? "Yes and then I told them I need one and they said
they didn't have any."
She proceeded to tell them she had more in her hand carry-on. They
wouldn't let her touch her stuff for "security reasons".
Nor would they give her one maxi-pad from her bag.
They would not let her travel with her carry-on luggage on the plane.
My friend Maysoon was made to bleed for hours in the airport all over
herself in a wheelchair.
As if that wasn't enough. She was also not allowed to touch her
medication(also in her hand carry-on). She has cerebral palsy and
needs to take special medicine or else she will throw up on the flight.
Several hours later she finally boarded Continental Airlines. The
stewardess looked at her in disgust when she entered the plane.
Maysoon looked up at her and said "They took my maxi-pad."
The stewardess' ramaged through their belongings and managed to
produce a pair of shorts etc for her to wear.
She threw up 7 times on the flight as she was not allowed to take her
medicine.
Are there words for such horror and brutality?
The policy of treating Palestinians in the most dispicable manner at
border crossings has been in place for years in an effort to brutalize
people to such an extreme that they will not return.
I remember it all.
Every crossing from Jordan when I was a kid in the 70's, and later
through Ben Gurion in the 80's. I will not forget.
I will never forget what they did to Maysoon.
Maysoon who is a comedian, an actress and an activist.
She herself is writing down this story in greater detail when she is
able to. And I will forward it to you then.
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Are there words for such horror and brutality?
The policy of treating Palestinians in the most dispicable manner at
border crossings has been in place for years in an effort to brutalize
people to such an extreme that they will not return. |
Yes, there are words for these actions. If there is a word synonymous for "anti-semitism" or hate directed towards the Palestinian citizens, there you have it.
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anti-Semitism
Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious group or "race.
" Although the term anti-Semitism has wide currency, it is regarded by some as a misnomer, implying discrimination against all Semites, including Arabs and other peoples who are not the targets of anti-Semitism as it is usually understood. In antiquity, hostility to the Jews emerged because of religious differences, a situation worsened as a result of the competition with Christianity. By the 4th century, Christians tended to see Jews as an alien people whose repudiation of Christ had condemned them to perpetual migration. Jews were denied citizenship and its rights in much of Europe in the Middle Ages (though some societies were more tolerant) or were forced to wear distinctive clothing, and there were forced expulsions of Jews from several regions in that period. Developed during the Middle Ages were many of the stereotypes of Jews (e.g., the blood libel, alleged greed, conspiracy against humankind) that have persisted into the modern era. The Enlightenment and the French Revolution brought a new religious freedom to Europe in the 18th century but did not reduce anti-Semitism, because Jews continued to be regarded as outsiders. In the 19th century violent discrimination intensified (see pogrom), and so-called "scientific racism" emerged, which based hostility to the Jews on their supposed biological characteristics and replaced religion as the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the 20th century the economic and political dislocations caused by World War I intensified anti-Semitism, and racist anti-Semitism flourished in Nazi Germany. Nazi persecution of the Jews led to the Holocaust, in which an estimated six million Jews were exterminated. Despite the defeat of the Nazis in World War II, anti-Semitism remained a problem in many parts of the world into the 21st century.
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Torkel
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