Church of Reality denounces Israeli Invasion of Lebanon

sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

read this as an antidote to what you get at the main stream media,
in other words , the facts otherwise known as the truth.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012297.php#more
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**Ferre** · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:08 am Post subject:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese_Doctor_Says_Phosphorus_0724.html
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BroRo · Banned Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 85 Location: here

Read this. It matters.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,428245,00.html
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject:

BroRo · Banned Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 85 Location: here

The Church of Reality is a misnomer. It has its head up its ass.

This kind of mindset only sees what it believes and refuses to inform itself about the history of Islam, the Koran, the Hadith and the Sira (Mohammad's biography). Then and only then is it possible to discuss the real nature of this conflict.

Israel is on the front line in the just and defensive war against Islamic jihad. This jihad springs from a totalitarian ideology....which most people call a religion....whose prime aim is to conquer and wipe out OUR civilisation. So if you want to hold on to your precious and hard earned freedom of thought and speech, equal rights and the democratic process, then you should be behind Israel. It's putting itself on the line and fighting for your rights,including the freedom to get high.
If you're not, then you should be dumped in Gaza, or Riyadh, or Mecca, or Teheran, or Karachi, or Cairo or Kabul, or any of these God-forsaken shitholes for a taste of reality sandwich and find out what UNFREEDOM is.

So please don't call it civilisation. This is treacherous appeasement. You probably would have supported a 'dialogue' with Hitler in 1938 like goons such as Chamberlain and Gandhi, who had no comprehension of the nature of evil.

Islam is evil and that's that.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject:

BroRo, I fail to see why the Israeli government should be rewarded any excuse for committing war crimes.

On your paranoid statement here, in which you imply that we should 'fight islam before it kills us' and that this is reason enough to forget about the Geneva convention, Universal human rights and international agreements...

Stokes · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

Ferre.
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Zionism was always a noble, and madly poetic undertaking. All intelligent dreamers should have supported it from the start. Possibly you have until now been misinformed about it. Possibly you live in one of those countries where the steady drip-drip-drip of pro-Arab propaganda has overwhelmed this fact. Possibly you live in area where there is complete inattention to:

1) The history of the Middle East;

2) The history of the Jews in the Middle East;

3) The history of that area known in Western Christendom as the Holy Land and to Jews as the Land of Israel and to Arabs, until the last few decades, when it has come to be known as nothing much at all except as the place that must be denied to the Jews and to the Christians;

4) The history of the area, particularly its land-ownership (90% of the land being state and waste land), governmental administration (two separate Ottoman vilayets and the sanjak of Jerusalem), and general condition, as described by visitor after visitor: "empty"; a place of "ruin"'; a place of "desolation";

5) The League of Nations Mandates, including the disposition of Lebanon-Syria under a French mandate, Iraq (as a Hashemite monarchy set up by the British) and Jordan (as a Hashemite emirate, later elevated to something grander, set up by the British);

Continue reading "Fitzgerald: Zionism is noble"
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Wed. 26 Jul 2006
Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Jul. 26 – Iran’s hard-line Majlis Speaker said on Tuesday that the “flame of battle with Israel will not be extinguished” and praised the Lebanese militia Hezbollah for continuing to lunch attacks on the Jewish state.

“The experience of 60 years of resistance by the Islamic world against the establishment of an Israeli government in this region should have taught the people of the world and Europe that their tactics will not reach anywhere and that the flame of battle with Israel and resistance will not be extinguished, even if the Israelis make short-term victories”, Gholam-Ali Haddad-Adel said during a press conference.

He rejected the possibility of Hezbollah being disarmed.

Meanwhile, the government-run news agency Fars reported on Tuesday that 10 armed Palestinian groups including Hamas and Islamic Jihad had vowed to rally behind Hezbollah.

for your info. they take ladies and kids as human shields, in the near future they will be more of them killed, but if it was Israel's intention to kill them all then they would have already done it.
they have all the power they need to be able to do it long time ago.
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**Ferre** · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject:

Sister Sara, in my book, zionism is as noble as fascism. In fact both look very much alike.

And I do know the history of the middle east, and how Europe, together with the USA, have pushed the Israeli state upon the Arab world after ww2. It all comes down to British interference in the region since decades to establish a solid base for its oil industries. After ww2 the American government opted to cooperate with Britain in order to get their piece of the pie, both the UK and the USA were very well aware of the de-stabilization the founding of the sate of Israel would cause in the region but that was exactly the plan.

Why can't we just buy their oil and let the Arabs live in peace? They don't want us there, is that so hard to understand?
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Ferre it is possible that we live in different realities and that we read different books.

anyways, you will see who is right only after... after ...

and when 6 millions of Israelies will win from 10X more millions of Arabs then you would think hard why? how is that possible?

do you think that the Arabs want you to live in Peace?
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sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

Melanie Philips, a British journalist, has this to say:

Such people believe the Palestinians are true inhabitants of a land called ‘Palestine’, who were cruelly dispossessed by the European Jews after the Holocaust. This is untrue. It is the Jews who are the historic inhabitants of the land of Israel, a nation state restored to them by the world in recognition of that historic claim and the unique global persecution of the Jews for which the world bore no small responsibility. Very few Pasletinian Arabs were dispossessed: the actual land was overwhelmingly sold, by Arabs to Jews, or it was empty, or the Arabs fled from it because they were told by the Arab world that the Jewish state would be strangled at its rebirth.

When the promise of a Jewish national home in Palestine was first made in the early years of the last century, there were very few people there at all. Many of those who now claim to be ‘refugees’ are the descendants of Arabs who flocked to Palestine in those decades solely because the incoming Jews brought with them the promise of employment and prosperity as they worked to establish their promised national home. The British, who were entrusted with delivering that promise, betrayed the Jews almost immediately and sided with the Arabs, who waged terrorist pogroms against the Jews of Palestine and then formed an axis with the Nazis during the war years. When Israel was created by the decision of the world — with half its citizens coming not from Europe but as refugees from the Arab states that persecuted them — the Arabs started their war of annihilation which continues to this day, despite the fact that a home was offered to the Arabs of Palestine alongside Israel in 1948 and in 2000. But they didn’t want a home of their own. They wanted to destroy Israel.
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**aeroplane** · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:26 am Post subject:

sara · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 448

The saudies have more money then you can think off.
Shocked

not the jews in Israel. Wink

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