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Cannabis 'Scrips to Calm Kids?
Tuesday, April 20, 2004
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
WASHINGTON — As a California pediatrician and 49-year-old mother of two teenage daughters, Claudia Jensen says pot might prove to be the preferred medical treatment for attention deficit disorder (search) — even in adolescents.
"Why would anyone want to give their child an expensive pill … with unacceptable side effects, when he or she could just go into the backyard, pick a few leaves off a plant and make tea for him or her instead?" Jensen asked the Drug Policy Subcommittee of the House Government Reform Committee earlier this month.
While some wonder whether Jensen was smoking some wacky weed herself, the clinician for low-income patients and professor to first-year medical students at the University of Southern California (search) said her beliefs are very grounded: The drug helps ease the symptomatic mood swings, lack of focus, anxiety and irritability in people suffering from neuropsychiatric disorders like ADD and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (search).
"Cannabinoids are a very viable alternative to treating adolescents with ADD and ADHD," she told Foxnews.com. "I have a lot of adult patients who swear by it."
Under California state law, physicians are allowed to recommend to patients the use of marijuana to treat illnesses, although the federal government has maintained that any use of marijuana — medicinal or otherwise — is illegal. The federal courts have ruled that physicians like Jensen cannot be prosecuted for making such recommendations.
Jensen said she regularly writes prescriptions recommending the use of marijuana for patients —particularly those suffering pain and nausea from chronic illnesses, such as AIDS, cancer, glaucoma and arthritis.
She has also worked with one family of a 15-year-old — whose family had tried every drug available to help their son, who by age 13 had become a problem student diagnosed as suffering from ADHD. Under Jensen’s supervision, he began marijuana treatment, settling on cannabis in food and candy form, and he has since found equilibrium and regularly attends school.
But not everyone is so high on the idea of pot for students with neurological illnesses. Subcommittee Chairman Mark Souder, R-Ind., who invited Jensen to testify after reading about her ideas in the newspaper, was hardly convinced by her testimony.
"I do believe that Dr. Jensen really wants to help her patients, but I think she is deeply misguided when she recommends marijuana to teenagers with attention deficit disorder or hyperactivity," he told Foxnews.com. "There is no serious scientific basis for using marijuana to treat those conditions, and Dr. Jensen didn’t even try to present one."
Dr. Tom O'Connell, a retired chest surgeon who now works with patients at a Bay Area clinic for patients seeking medical marijuana recommendations, is working on it. He said cannabis not only helps pain, but also can treat psychological disorders. He is currently conducting a study of hundreds of his patients, whom he said he believes have been self-medicating with pot and other drugs for years, and he hopes to publish a paper on the subject soon.
"My work with cannabis patients is certainly not definitive at this point, but it strongly suggests that the precepts upon which cannabis prohibition have been based are completely spurious," O'Connell said. Worse yet, he added, the prohibition has successfully kept certain adolescents away from pot who now turn to tobacco and alcohol instead.
Jensen, who said she believes Souder invited her to testify to "humiliate me and incriminate me in some way," suggested that a growing body of evidence is being developed to back medical marijuana chiefly for chronic pain and nausea. She said it is difficult, however, for advocates like herself to get the funding and permission to conduct government-recognized tests on ADD/ADHD patients.
"Unfortunately, no pharmaceutical companies are motivated to spend the money on research, and the United States government has a monopoly on the available marijuana and research permits," she told Congress.
Studies done on behalf of the government, including the 1999 Institute of Medicine’s (search) "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base," found that marijuana delivers effective THC and other cannabinoids that serve as pain relief and nausea-control agents. But these same studies warn against the dangers of smoking marijuana and suggest other FDA-approved drugs are preferable.
"We know all too well the dangerous health risks that accompany (smoking)," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., ranking member on the subcommittee, who like Souder, was not impressed by Jensen’s arguments.
"It flies in the face of responsible medicine to advocate a drug that had been known to have over 300 carcinogens and has proven to be as damaging to the lungs as cigarette smoking," added Jennifer Devallance, spokeswoman for the White House Office of Drug Control Policy (search).
The government points to Food and Drug Administration-approved Marinol (search), a THC-derived pill that acts as a stand-in for marijuana. But many critics say there are nasty side effects, and it’s too expensive for the average patient.
On the other hand, Jensen and others say cannabinoids can be made into candy form, baked into food or boiled into tea. They say that despite the FDA blessing, giving kids amphetamines like Ritalin for ADD and other behavioral disorders might be more dangerous.
"Ritalin is an amphetamine — we have all of these youngsters running around on speed," said Keith Stroup, spokesman for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (search).
"Although it flies in the face of conventional wisdom, it's nevertheless true that cannabis is far safer and more effective than the prescription agents currently advocated for treatment of ADD-ADHD," O'Connell said.
Stroup said if Souder’s intention was to harangue Jensen, he was unsuccessful in the face of her solid and articulate testimony on April 1.
"It was a good day for her, and a good day for medical marijuana in Congress," he said.
Nick Coleman, a subcommittee spokesman, said Souder doesn't "try to humiliate people.
"But to promote medical marijuana for teenagers with ADD … he does not feel that is a sound and scientific medical practice," Coleman said.
While the issue of treating adolescents with medical marijuana is fairly new, the idea of using pot to treat chronically and terminally ill patients is not. Nine states currently have laws allowing such practices. A number of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have added that they want the states to decide for themselves whether to pursue medical marijuana laws (search).
Among those lawmakers are Reps. Ron Paul, R-Texas, a physician; Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.; and Barney Frank, D-Mass.
"(Rep. Paul) believes there are some legitimate applications," like for pain and nausea, said spokesman Jeff Deist. "But the real issue is that states should decide for themselves."
Source: FOX News
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Great post...
Has anyone tried making tea from the leaves and ground up seeds...?
I know sterilized Cannabis seeds are used in Chinese prescriptions for constipation and to promote healing of sores....
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I have tried making tea before, but I don't think it works that well.
The thc resin in the plant is not water soluble, it does not mix in water, but it will mix in oil. Baking with ground plant parts works well in cookies or whatever you like, seems to get the full effect out of it. |
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A comment about this article;It pisses me off to hear the same lines every time in a MJ article!
The rebuttal always has the same lines;
1-MJ was not studied thoroughly/ or it was studied and has no medical value--usually see both in same article.
2-MJ studies show smoking is dangerous. What? see #1. Of course they forget that smoking is not the only way to use MJ.
3-Buy an expensive Marinol pill-it is safe-we know because we did/did not not study MJ to find the THC compound, right?As if Eli Lilli just had an idea to make a chemical one day out of the blue, therefore it is good for you.
I always wonder how people(dumbass public) can not see this;if MJ was studied(or not) how can they say it is bad, but the MJ pill they want to sell you is good? |
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Although the oils in Cannabis don't mix (as in soluble) they can still boil out if you simmer it for at least 20 minutes (but no more than 30 so the volatiles don't boil away). I don't think steeping would be enough to release the oils from the leaves and ground up seeds.
Try it if you have some fresh (or dried) herb....
I'd probably use 2-3 tablespoons in 3 cups of water to simmer down to 2 cups and I wouldn't expect to feel 'high', although it could happen. 
The dose is more for therapeutic purposes....
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| I always wonder how people(dumbass public) can not see this;if MJ was studied(or not) how can they say it is bad, but the MJ pill they want to sell you is good? |
Yeah, people pretty much believe what they're told from the "reputable" companies because the government wouldn't let them lie now, would they?
'The public' sounds like a bunch of 80 year old grandmothers.....
Certainly not my generation.... 
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Yep, fyrefly, I tried steeping like tea or other herbal tea mixtures and it just did not give me what I know should have been there.
After that I just stuck with what I know works-bonging or baking. |
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2-MJ studies show smoking is dangerous. What? see #1. Of course they forget that smoking is not the only way to use MJ.
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They(the usa gov) send 8 patients a cannister of rolled  s a month.
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