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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Canadians Bust Overgrow.com Reply with quote

Hello everyone, I am new here. I am from overgrow.com. We just had a vote and a new goverment is in power. One of the first things they do is bust Overgrow.com and a few other Canadian ran web sites.
I am seraching for a forum that wont get busted. I should have come here in the first place.

I hope something is done about this, This goverment is going to make alot of poeple upset.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to our community synister. wavey

Yeah, we know about overgrow. Don't you think it's strange that there is no news whatsoever? When Marc Emery got arrested there was a lot of news everywhere and his sites didn't go down. This should be big news, but it's still very silent in the media and I really wonder if overgrow ends like this.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im glad it didnt get busted, i had many many pictures uploaded of my grows.
I kinda feel better about. If i was the owner, i would have done the same thing for everyones safety.

Whats life like over there, is there work? I would love to be where you are, I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that it did get busted, I heard that the police conifiscated the overgrow servers.

Isn't that correct?

..and life is the same here as anywhere else I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, theres new news on CC.

"..and life is the same here as anywhere else I guess." ?? lol
I wish that was true buddy. YOu can smoke weed, I cant. How is that the same?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: RC is just...vanished! Reply with quote

"Richard Calrisian" of Overgrow and Heaven's Stairway Disappears
by Jodie Giesz-Ramsay (08 Feb, 2006) glitch420/yahooka

Did he take the money and run? Or did "RC" go into hiding?

The owner of Heaven's Stairway Seeds, CannabisWorld.com and Overgrow.com has apparently dropped his websites and businesses, and has taken off with everything.

No one knows who "Richard Calrisian" is. No one has come forward with information about the websites. There have been no busts, no arrests linked to the owners. The servers seem to be reachable, but are not hosting the websites anymore.

Was RC scared of being investigated? Did he want to stop paying for an enormous database of information (Overgrow.com)?

Everyone who sells seeds seems to be fleeing North America and going to Amsterdam, Switzerland, Spain, England - the far more progressive countries. They don't want to be picked up by the USA or Canadian governments. Now that the Conservatives are elected in Canada, there's far more risks for people operating marijuana enterprises.



Read the CC Forums thread discussion on the topic here.

Originally Posted by Marc Scott Emery
It would appear that there are no arrests, no police seizures of servers, RC is in Europe or Asia and has taken the money and ran. The servers are shutdown by RC and it may be no one is at risk at all.

overgrow/cannabisworld/ are simply gone.

Reeferman is also permanently in Europe, though his businesses are still operating here (sort of).

Seems some in the industry are reading the writing on the wall. RC closed shop as soon as the Conservative government came to power!

Quote:Originally Posted by Marc Scott Emery
We have sources in the business that have told us this is what the "industry" now believes is the case.

There are no arrests. There is no breach of security known. The people closest to RC are not at all worried, which I at first thought was odd. But one needs time to "disappear" and simply announcing "goodbye" on the overgrow websites would attract queries, debtors, law enforcement curiosity... whereas right now it a mystery that goes on and on, allowing RC to adopt a new identity in a new place.

Pretty smart really.

Quote:Originally Posted by Marc Scott Emery
He may well be in Holland, probably not Italy, as of today. 6 years to 20 years for selling pot!

He doesn't want to be found, period. He may be aware of investigations, rivals, Hell's Angels, we don't know.

All I know is that no one who knows him is talking, no one is worried, including the people who did alot of action on overgrow, there are no announced arrests or busts, no ones security has been compromised.

RC is just...vanished!



Cannabisworld.com and Overgrow.com Seized By Police
Source: cannabisculture.com 2006-02-04
Cannabis Culture began receiving emails on Wednesday saying Richard Calrisian and his wife had been arrested along with four employees, but this could not be corroborated.



Canada: HARPER'S REEFER MADNESS
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1911/a04.html
Over the weekend, Conservative leader Stephen Harper said: "A Conservative government will not reintroduce the Liberal plan to decriminalize the possession of marijuana, and we will never endorse the NDP idea of legalizing it outright."



U.S. SAYS CANADA CARES TOO MUCH ABOUT LIBERTIES
by Jim Bronskill, Janice Tibbetts, (Source:Ottawa Citizen) 01 May 2003

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's even scarier is the new justice minister Harper put in place.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Meet The New Justice Minister of Canada Reply with quote

The Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper was sworn in today as Prime Minister, and his Cabinet choices announced. A vicious prohibitionist was named to the Justice Ministry portfolio. Former prosecutor Vic Toews (pronounced Taves) now holds the position of Justice Minister.
F U L L S T O R Y
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4645.html



Stephen Harper's Drug Problem 01 Feb, 2006
What is the destructive force driving Stephen Harper?

Italy Passes Worst Marijuana and Drug Laws in the World
The Italian government has approved a law that increases sanctions against people who smoke marijuana, putting the drug on a par with cocaine and heroin.
F U L L S T O R Y http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4646.html



From Whom Did the Fascists Get Support?
Italian fascism and German Nazism had their admirers within the U.S. business community and the corporate owned press.

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Plants Are Targeted By Anti-Drug Corporations

US drug-war in Canada! 27 Jun, 2001
Cross-border drug war destroys Canadian sovereignty,
as NAFTA helps DEA control RCMP in BC.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A vicious prohibitionist
peachy eh, and what a picture of him. The guy is scary.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: RC is just...vanished! Reply with quote

DdC wrote:
Everyone who sells seeds seems to be fleeing North America and going to Amsterdam, Switzerland, Spain, England - the far more progressive countries. They don't want to be picked up by the USA or Canadian governments. Now that the Conservatives are elected in Canada, there's far more risks for people operating marijuana enterprises.

"The recent Canadian elections were the result of an American, CIA plot."

Does that statement sound wacky? Conspiracy-theory crazy?

But when you think about it, the statement is entirely plausible and very possibly true.

Given that the U.S. in the last few years has funded the so called 'democracy' movements through N.G.O.s all over the world (the so called 'color-revolutions' in Lebanon, Ukraine, Georgia, etc., as well as unsuccessfully funding N.G.O.s in China and Russia, etc.), as a way to force its hegemony, why would it be inconceivable that it would do the same in Canada? (Russia and China had to take the extreme step of outlawing N.G.O.s in response.) In fact, Canada's progressive policies on Cannabis have been been a thorn in America's side, and the fact that America can topple governments half way around the world but not next door must have been insufferable. Son of Sam, when visiting Canada a couple of years ago, was livid when the Canadians refused to enter into an join-t anti-missile missile defense shield treaty. The conservative victory may have very well been the U.S. administration's payback.

All this means is that Canada's sovereignty is being whittled away. See what is happening with Marc Emery. I have heard that there are some wacko Canadian right wing politicians who would like nothing better than to see an 'American-Canadian Anschluss' to complete the process.

Whether the elections were decided by money from the CIA, or State Dept., etc., or by control of the media . . . none of that makes any difference. The more I think about it . . . the more I am certain that the U.S. violated Canadian sovereignty and influenced the election.

What this means to me personally is that I will no longer be only four hours away by motor vehicle to a place that is much closer to my beliefs and way of thinking.

synister wrote:
"..and life is the same here as anywhere else I guess." ?? lol
I wish that was true buddy. YOu can smoke weed, I cant. How is that the same?

Synister, at least you don't have to risk doing hard time for smoking weed.

Johnny J!! ccc:
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