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David
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Ferre,
I always turn to George Orwells 1984, even back in the late forties he predicted imaginary wars, which would brainwash us into think the government were protecting us from imaginary dictator's.
I believe it sent him mad! or they made him look mad.
YOU CAN NEVER HIDE THE TRUTH. you can manipulate words and delete texts, But the true cannabis lover works on the spirit and soul rather than the actual written word. Newspeak, Doublespeak, Hiding the Truth, its all the same!!!!! |
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Ferre
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Arron
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Nachtschattenreich
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Ferre - The American intelligence hydrocephalus has been playing "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" for decades, but just look what it got them... nothing but increased problems, confusion and discord, or as some call it, blowback. The Iraqi-Persian war of the 1980s is a good example, the White House backed its enemy Saddam because they rated him as the lesser evil in comparison to Khomeini. However, the origins of the Baath party are deeper, it was founded in 1940s Syria (former Ottoman empire, League of Nations territory under French mandate, while France itself had become a Nazi vassal under the Vichy regime) as an NSDAP offspring and then became a Soviet ally. The problem of Islamic terrorism and jihad is older than the CIA, the Americans tried to take over some of these movements as part of their failed "containement" doctrine, but they did not create it in the first place. They´re actually themselves hostages of their past mistakes - if they stopped bribing Egypt and Pakistan tomorrow, what would happen? Even more hateful regimes would putsch away the current governments and produce even more terrorism and war.
As to your assertion that Islam in fact was a heresy of Christianity, if that is so, then it is that way since the 7th century. There was no CIA back then. You seem to be so full of fear of conspiracies that you´re getting your chronology wrong.
And I bookmarked your video link to watch it tonight. Comments on that later. |
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Ferre
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British 'intelligence' was there a long time before the CIA my friend, it was actually the brits who initiated the 'muslim terrorism' as we know it today. You don't need to explain history to me, trust me on that.
It is true that fascism has allways been interwoven into most of the extremism and powermongering on this earth, on both the left and right side of the political spectrum and at the top of the leadership in all abrahamic religions, as I said many times before, fascism is the driving force behind most hunger for power, regardless of the 'label' the powermongers add to themselves.
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Nachtschattenreich
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Ferre - And the point of that psychopathic fantasmagorical link is...?
It seems that some individuals accept any construct, however contradictory or far-fetched it may be, that allows them to keep up the imagination that the threat from Islamic terrorism was not genuine and that there was no real war in our world. But why? The only reason I can see for this is a false reaction to fear... the same mechanism as in kids who believe when they put their hands on their eyes they could not be seen.
Arron - I liked the Bavaria reference in your last link... the artist who designed the Fountainhead for the Eris Temple courtyard was born in the county from where I am writing this. |
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Ferre
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| Nachtschattenreich wrote: |
| It seems that some individuals accept any construct, however contradictory or far-fetched it may be, that allows them to keep up the imagination that the threat from Islamic terrorism was not genuine and that there was no real war in our world. But why? The only reason I can see for this is a false reaction to fear... the same mechanism as in kids who believe when they put their hands on their eyes they could not be seen. |
To me, it seems that some induviduals can't seem to see that the Muslim terrorism is one group of what is called Judeo-Christians who are all insane and a danger to the lives of all others in more or less extent.
I do not deny that muslim terrorism is real, I only recognize this as a symptom of what the Abrahamic scriptures and their followers are all about. Which is: Bad news.
For me all Judeo christians (muslims, jews, christians) support genocide, hatred and bigotry in more or less extent, some of them go around bombing people, others go around infiltrating politics and push their doctrines by means of laws upon us and others are only plain annoying, but in general they add nothing but negativity to this world and their agenda is gaining power.
..all in the name of 'love' for their master, of course.
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Nachtschattenreich
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And in the real world, some individuals are honest and others are not.
I have seen atheists who are not bigots, but obviously this one is. |
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Ferre
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| Nachtschattenreich wrote: |
And in the real world, some individuals are honest and others are not.
I have seen atheists who are not bigots, but obviously this one is. |
All I do is point out the obvious for anyone who knows a little about history. It's not my book that demands to kill my brothers and sisters when they don't submit to brainwashing now is it. It's not my book that is used to justify most of the killings we read about on the news every day now is it. Today it's the same god-and-same-scriptures that are used by both the muslim leaders and christian leaders as a tool to keep the masses mobilized, both muslim leaders and christian leaders claim that this god talks to them and we have the followers of the original scriptures in the middle fuelling the conflicts, again, using those scriptures to justify their actions.
That, my friend, is insanity to me.
Of course, this is the viewpoint of an outsider, I'm on the sideline so to speak. I have no emotional or any other association with any of those groups whatsoever but research history and cultural/political anthropology since the past 30+ years of my life with the goal to find the reasons behind the percecution of our, and any other entheogens using cultures in our present times and why there is a mechanism working to whipe those cultures from the surface of our planet, along with their sacred plants.
The combination of massive brainwashing and laws is the tool used by this mechanism and the enforcing power behind the mechanism is with no doubt the Abrahamic scripture followers, all of them combined and with most of them not even aware of it all.
..but that's just my own personal opinion, of course. 
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Johnny J
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| allows them to keep up the imagination that the threat from Islamic terrorism was not genuine and that there was no real war in our world |
Brother Nachtscattenreich:
You are either a practitioner, or a victim, of Doublespeak.
Any objective analysis of the situation historically and as it stands today reveals who are the empowered, the exploiters and the aggressors.
On one side, a rich, powerful state with a history of domination, hungry to exploit even further, and on the other, a third world state struggling for autonomy and development.
Brother David's reference to Orwell is well taken. The rich and powerful benefit from a war without end.
Humbly,
!!jOhNNy J!! |
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Arron
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: The Feere Book |
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| It's not my book that demands to kill my brothers and sisters when they don't submit to brainwashing now is it. It's not my book ... |
I agree my formative upbringing from Judeo, Christian, Muslim - Abrahamics, as Roman Catholic, teachings demands I'm armed and ready to go deliver the rath of God. Get the devil like antimicrobial soap gets germs.
Well, I never even liked the sacrament in the church - yuck, Jesus's blood and flesh, ouch. I was an Alter Boy, a real bell ringer, as well and in parocihal schools. Ran off alter one Christmas puking when the incense overwhelmed me, too bad they forgot to use cannabis or hash like I've learned here was a historically accurate use of sacramental offerings.
I've even come to appreciate microbs more and sweep bug into the outdoor and not kill them. And try live lighter. I am a sucker for a grilled steak or rib still. I'm way down and almost off meat. It sure is addicting and my appitite for meat, especially the cripsy grizzle of fat is set off by the grilling meats fumes. Oh where is my self control really?
I'm going to presume you Feere are a vegitarian or something very close.
Feere, have your drawn anything from Jain's Buddhism, highly ignored by the rest Buddhists and considered as wierd and the Essene ways of the Jesus Christian sect. Are these where your book(s) or Bible come from or were those book adapted from a book you refer too.
What reading, book you refering to Feere. Do you read it in church services and do you celebrate mass on the sabbath, Sunday?
Really exceited to see the youtube video coming about your church.
If your working a regualr job and doing all you do for us here to the point of PTSD, may I personally thank you for the work you do.
I found you all at thc ministry because of my friend and the world's friend Feere.
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