Are we safe? (Florida)

PraiseGod · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 2

Like many I'm afraid... afraid of being "busted" for growing Cannabis. I do not do it, even though it helps me meditate, pray and stops the pain caused by several illnesses I suffer.

I live in Florida and read a post about how Florida residents will find it hard to have the THC Ministry stand up in court.

I haven't donated any money to the ministry, lack of funds on my part.
Would the ministry still support me if I got caught growing one or two plants? Fully for my own use in my home.
I would like to think so, lol.

I live with my mum (kind of like an old farm lifestyle, several generations on one place)... She is not a member, nor are the others on this land. Will my decision to grow Cannabis effect them in any legal way? This is my main concern- I do not want the government to take their land because of me.

Am I truly a member of this Ministry? All I did was believe in this cause and fill out the online form and print my certificate out. Does this entitle me to the "rights" those donating card holding members have?

I'm not just asking on my behalf, I'm asking on the behalf of everyone I come into contact with that uses Cannabis to help with worship and to ease pain.
I know I find it hard to concentrate on worshipping God when I am in such awful pain.

I do know you probably get these questions everyday but it helps to have someone speak directly to you. Embarassed

Sorry for the trouble. Smile

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Fearless1 · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject: land

If you can't afford to lose the land don't grow there!
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Stokes · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Are we safe? (Florida)

PraiseGod · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 2

I hope you can overcome whatever illness you suffer from!
So far every post I've seen on this forum has been kindhearted. Smile

It really warms a heart. So much praise is given out it makes me smile.
I will have to trust in the Lord as I know I should. Blessings and Merry Christmakaquanza! Hehehe.
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Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

I am a bit disappointed that Roger has not answered you. What with the price of Email these days one can hardly blame him.

Let me tell you the truth from first hand experience. Despite the fact that Rogers defense should work in any court, it does not. In Florida this defense so far has proven to be utterly hopeless. Even if you can scrape up the price for a sanctuary kit, the law will laugh at it and take whatever you have and throw you into hell. No man on Earth can or will save you will save you, not Roger or anyone else. The fed simply does not care about sincere beliefs, another sign that they are possesed by inhuman spirits.

I am a cannabis sacrement minister, but despite my beliefs, this religion has no ability to protect anyone in Florida. It may work in Hawaii but not here. This is tragic, Roger has come up with a brilliant defense and by any standards of reason we should be protected but the fed no longer considers themselves a servant of the people. They see themselves as our masters and this view is only going to expand. They have rebelled against there rightful place and have joined the ranks of satan. I do believe this defense can be made to work, but as long as the ministers are content to sit around and praise Roger, nothing more will happen.

**Mystic Power** · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:27 am Post subject:

In Florida, like so many places, there is what they SAY and then there is what they DO.

http://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19843#19843

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RogerChristie · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: As far as I know ...

Hello Everyone,

Aloha and Happy Christmas Eve!

As far as I know, everyone who has asked me for a free ministry id and Sanctuary sign has received one, or it's on the way. If I have missed you - for any reason - please ask a second time and I'll get to it asap. Simple as that.

All the best to you and yours,

Roger

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Stokes · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: As far as I know ...

RogerChristie · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: To be accurate...

To correct the record and to be accurate, Stokes just wrote:

"Roger,

Just wanted to ... let you know that I did get the e-mail from Dec. 20th when you sent it.

Peace and Joy throughout the Year, my friend.

Stokes"

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RogerChristie

Hello out there on the cannabis road,

Aloha. What a thread of discussion. I'm often reminded of some parallels with what little I know about early Christianity and the practice of cannabis spirituality. It can be challenging - it can be rewarding - it can be dangerous!!! Even where (especially where) there is a supposed guarantee - in writing - of 'religious freedom' for all citizens.

Am I safe to practice cannabis cultivation and enjoyment for my spirituality in Florida, or wherever? That's a very big and loaded question in the USA where the prejudice against the herb is so wide and deep, and where even its supporters are pretty much in hiding (most or all of the time?) for fear of the severe penalties if one gets caught. Sounds a bit like early Christianity to me.

Maybe the parallels are more exact than I have realized. Let's do a little research, please, and see how similar we are to the early Christian era, OK? With the holy anointing oil now a magical part of this ministry we (I, and possibly you) have entered the realm of the Judeo-Christian 'line' some how and some way.

Here it is Christmas Eve and this discussion is totally appropriate. 'Christian', or not, we all have the chance for a dynamic discussion and the further illumination of our mission, our experience and our faith.

Mahalo for being a part of our living history.

Much love and respect to you and yours,

Roger

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Stokes · Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:

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Lilli · Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:55 am Post subject:

If hes in the crosshairs then maybe they can take lessons on Rogers "Christlike" compassion love and sincerety. They could use a role modal.

They could see what a real dedicated healer looks like.
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Rev. Steve · Cannabis Sacrament Minister Joined: 17 Nov 2003 Posts: 200

Rev. Steve wrote.

"My sincere apology to Roger for my rather harsh words which where perhaps unwarented."

Having said that. I will add that Roger will most certainly be in the crosshairs. At this time he is not a threat because the victories are not yet a trend. if they do become a trend the fed will find a way to make Roger have an unfortunate accident. Of this I am utterly convinced. The fed will come to the conclusion that if they cut off the head, the body will die.

I know Roger is a pilot. I was an aircraft mechanic when I was in the army. Trust me one can make an airplane crash just by nicking a twist of saftey wire and the NTSB will call it an unfortunate accident. Do any of you trust the US government when it comes to the interests of our religion? If they are rabid enough about prohibition to go after dying women, they certainly will not allow this religion to take hold. They are going to try to kill Roger at some point, you all must know this by now!

I'm sorry to be the voice of anger and rage here, but I have been well trained. These govenrnmental stooges are cowards and they have failed as our leaders, they are no longer worthy of our support.

Would it be possible for every minister to sign a pettition and a statement to let the government know that we know what they are up to? They are not ready for the ministry to be an organized entity. I mean every minister on the planet, hand signing a statment loudly accusing the government of the United States of actively oppresing our religion and calling them out for an all out legal battle before the US supreme court. A battle where we no longer ask for our rights, a battle where we outrght demand our religious freedom! Peace? No peace!

Lilli · Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:45 am Post subject:

Steve some of us believe Roger to be led by God. I certainly do. There's several points to Rogers ministry. One of them is the oil. My Dr is astounded at the changes in my lung sounds and all around ability to get around now. Mindy's legs were spared from the amputator's knife. Kate's lungs, Bens heart and lungs both improved. There's a 99 yr old woman using it and getting relief from crippling arthritic pain in her hands. Shes able to play the piano painlessly.

We are on a mission from God!!!!

Rogers been selected by God to be his warrior and make this Holy Oil.

David slew Goliath! Daniel stayed safe in the lions den! Shadrac, Meshak, and Obendigo all stayed safe. When you have God in your corner "no weapon formed against thee shall prosper"

The bible also says that what ever we bind here on earth is bound in heaven. And whatever loosed on earth be loosed in heaven. Well I bind any evil acts against Roger Christie and his Ministry and these members I Plead the blood of Jesus on him and us all. I thank you Oh Jehovah for imparting power unto us in the name of Jesus Hallelujah and amen
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I pass to you the torch that Christ once passed to me.
Others are still in the dark and need
the light to see.
"I AM"
"Gathering the fragments so that
none are lost"
His Shepherdess
http://missouri.thcministry.org/