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Telrad
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Ferre...I'm sorry if I missed this somewhere but...
Are there any benifits to becoming a THC Ministry Minister ??
If so what are they?
Thanks
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Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
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Location: Amsterdam
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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In some countries (not all) there are laws issueing our sacrament as an "illegal substance" and procecute the possesion of it. Most of those countries signed international agreements on human rights and in those rights the right to express, and to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance is included. Our religion mandates the use of cannabis as sacrament and therefor our members can call on religious grounds and defence when, by accident, they get encountered by their local law system.
In such a case, it does have benefits to be able to get official prove you are a member of our religion from the head office and it has avoided further problems many times already. Besides, every religion on this earth has some register for it's members and "numbers" both "back up" the THC Ministry in general and our members world wide.
Btw, the members DB is not online and not accessable for anyone and information will only be given to, and on request of the person it is about. The DB is recently moved outside the legal influence of the US because of the patriot act. No authority can get legal access to it and no one will ever be given access to this data either.
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Telrad
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MorrisonHotel
getting into high spirits
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: illegal substance |
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I live in Canada where although it is currently being debated for de-criminalization, cannabis is still an illegal substance. I just find it a little hard to believe that argueing religious grounds would actually help any. I mean isn't illegal, illegal? If cannabalism was part of your religion you would still go to jail, so how is this different? (aside from the obvious of being harmless of course) I am a member of the thc ministry and practice my beliefs regardless, but the subject of jail does make me a bit un-easy.
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Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
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In the (Al Capone) prohibition alcohol days the christian churches could still use alcohol as their sacrament in the USA brother, it's international law, different religion, different sacrament, same principle.
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MorrisonHotel
getting into high spirits
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:45 am Post subject: Thanks |
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I never thought about that (well obviously or I wouldn't have brought it up, lol). But it definately settles my mind about the issue, thank you for that. 
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Lilli
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: Re: illegal substance |
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| I live in Canada where although it is currently being debated for de-criminalization, cannabis is still an illegal substance. I just find it a little hard to believe that argueing religious grounds would actually help any. I mean isn't illegal, illegal? If cannabalism was part of your religion you would still go to jail, so how is this different? (aside from the obvious of being harmless of course) I am a member of the thc ministry and practice my beliefs regardless, but the subject of jail does make me a bit un-easy. |
The recipe for the Holy Oil at exodus calls for 9 pounds of kanehbosm.Hebrew Scholars have come out and said that the king james Bible is mistranslated.
Exodus30:23 is what makes the differance
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Don Quixote
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greetings.
i have just become a member of this forum and have joined the THC-Ministry amsterdam.so could u please tell me how to become a minister?am i already a minister!!!do i have to buy the kit first.i live in england and i am un-employed at the moment so it will take me a loooong time to save enough cash to buy the kit.also i do not have a credit card or paypal account is there another way i can pay? |
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Ferre
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Welcome Don Quixote, you allready are a minister, you do not 'have' to buy the kit to be a minister but the kit does contain everything (and more) you need to 'officially' confirm this with documents and ID cards.
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Don Quixote
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thank you for your fast reply brother.
you must have answered that question a thousand times!!!please understand that i wasnt just acting the 'chancer' i really am broke.but i know that will change.soon as i can i am gonna send my $250 dolllars because a)the value for money i get in return will be worth a million times that amount and b) you are all some righteous people and i am 100% certain you will put that money to good use!
i am honoured to be a part of THC-Ministry.
my love and respect go out to you all.
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Rev. Rodger L. Poole
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Joined: 10 May 2004
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Location: Im not here! Im where things HAPPEN.
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I mean isn't illegal, illegal? If cannabalism was part of your religion you would still go to jail, so how is this different? (aside from the obvious of being harmless of course) I am a member of the thc ministry and practice my beliefs regardless, but the subject of jail does make me a bit un-easy.
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Is illegal, illegal? Not necessarily....
Whether something is harmless or not goes a long way toward making it legal for us to use, even if it is illegal by civil standards. The Andrews Test makes this more clear, in noting that something must not just be illegal, but must also show a "compelling interest in the regulation that justified such a burden"....In other words, they have to show why its so legally important for you to stop using your chosen sacrament. As long as we are peaceful, and do not harm anyone in any way, they do not have a compelling interest, and ruling against us would be, in fact, discrimination.
Just being illegal isnt enough. And, according to our rights, no one can tell us what to put in our bodies for any reason. We own ourselves. Take back your ownership!
Shamanism is the use of mind-altering substances in conjunction and cooperation with spirituality. At least, it is a significant, and globally recognized part of it. Shamanism is a legally recognized religion by the US Govt. They even have parts in their Military Code that mention shamanism as a religion, although it has been mixed in with Wicca...Governmentally, it all falls under the category of "Witchcraft"....which I suppose is correct in only the largest context. Everyone knows what shamanism is, dont they?
Its only been around thousands of years....
Now, all of a sudden everyone seems to have a problem with it... 
You cant tell the UDV that they can use Ayahuasca, and we cant use Cannabis. You cant tell the Native American Church that they can use Peyote, and we cant use Cannabis.....You cant tell Christians that they can use Alcohol, and we cant use Cannabis.....We win. Period.
This isnt about legalization for me. For me, it is legal. As long as I believe Cannabis is sacred, and it is included as part of my religion, I may use it according to the law. So can you. Anything else is a lie and hypocrisy of the highest order. My best to all. I hope this answers your question!
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/\ /\ /\ /\ --- What he said.
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Rev. Rodger L. Poole
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Thanks for posting that Brother Ben, I was remiss for not doing it myself...Nice catch!
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Dreamz0fSafty
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why is lilly badnned?
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Ferre
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think you better ask Lilli why she is banned. 
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...but it might be time for some ministry. 